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[quote=iRepDMV;1117104]Initially it was a shoulder injury then all of a sudden a concussion pops up in the picture. After watching the replay, the Lions' linebacker barely grazed Griff's helmet. Something's got to give. Remember, Kirk is the one Scot M. came close to drafting before selecting Russell Wilson. This tells us he did his extensive scouting (which he's greatly known for) and believes in the talent Kirk Cousins has. ...and we're all believers in Scot M. right.......?[/quote]

Given how many hits he had taken before, it wouldn't surprised me if he got concussed before that final takedown.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117129]Given how many hits he had taken before, it wouldn't surprised me if he got concussed before that final takedown.[/quote]

I noticed that he seemed to be shaking off the cobwebs after the first big hit.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1117133]I noticed that he seemed to be shaking off the cobwebs after the first big hit.[/quote]

RG3 looked very discombobulated in that last play. I feel like he was already concussed or something.

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Watching Griff play reminds me of this guy dancing.
[url]http://youtu.be/LWToxPni6Ic[/url]

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[quote=Luxorreb;1117107]I trust Scott.
Sure the line had it's faults but all the sacks/ knockdowns were RG3's fault.
He's slow, unsure and can't run the offense like a pro QB. I love the guy. Bought his jersey. Wanna believe. But facts are Colt and Cuz run this offense better than RG3. These are facts.[/quote]

RGIII no longer seems to move well in confined spaces, and has the pocket awareness of someone who just downed a fifth of Jack Daniels. It seems that Peyton Manning and Tom Brady avoid the rush better. Sorry but he looks helpless out there at the moment.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117129]Given how many hits he had taken before, it wouldn't surprised me if he got concussed before that final takedown.[/quote]

Agreed. It most certainly happened before that play and likely contributed to his fumbling the ball in the first place.

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RGIII thinks "standing in the pocket" means literally "standing still in the pocket".
RGIII thinks "not relying on your athleticism" means literally "standing still in the pocket"

I can't help thinking that when RGIII is out on the field he's purposely giving a big FU to Gruden for not letting him play the way he wants. Kind of like. See what happens when I play your way. I'd be the greatest QB in football if I could just play the way I want to.

Even his comments in training camp like "I'm playing the way they want me to". just sounds like something a team guy would never say. Just seems like he has a lot of backhanded veiled subtle comments, that ultimately say, "Everyone is against me, it's me against the world"

I don't know how anyone on the team could hear the comment "I'm the best QB on the team", and not think this guy is just a total douche.

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why not start Cousins against the first string ravens and see how HE does against the starters…bring RGlll in later and see how he does against the backups..what do we have to lose?? does anybody think that if RGlll had been playing the backups all pre season he would have done better than Cousins or McCoy..My bet was he would still not look good..so how in the world if RGlll stinks it up at Ravens can Gruden start him against Miami..this does not make sense at all. I realize Robert had pressure in his face but geez he looked lost ..and why on earth did they not help out smith with extra blockers..its almost like the Coaching staff wants this to play out like it is and force a change at Qb from the top (Snyder)…This maybe the last chance for Robert ..if he looks bad against the Ravens what do you guys think will happen?

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Sorry to be blunt...but No Matter What Happens...RG3 will be the starter for the regular season against the Dolphins, because Dan Synder has already decreed it.

Even if RG3 sux next week and the final week of the preseason, and KG and Colt look great, RG3 will be the starter against the Dolphins...the only hope is that if RG3 sux against the Dolphins, hopefully Jay Gruden will be allowed to pull RG3 in favor of KG or Colt.

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Listened to ESPN 980 all day today,something Ive never done in the past,I wanted to hear what local radio had to say about VY2 since I never get to hear it.Not a single on air talent thought Griff should be the starter,doesnt look any better than last yr,etc etc.
Cooley did his film breakdown,he tried to be as diplomatic as possible but it was not good for Griff.Cooley didnt want to name the qb but you knew who he was talking about when asked about what our record will be this yr.Maximum 5 games with VY2 or 9 to 10 games with the other qb's on the roster.

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[quote=kct1975;1117203]Sorry to be blunt...but No Matter What Happens...RG3 will be the starter for the regular season against the Dolphins, because Dan Synder has already decreed it.

Even if RG3 sux next week and the final week of the preseason, and KG and Colt look great, RG3 will be the starter against the Dolphins...the only hope is that if RG3 sux against the Dolphins, hopefully Jay Gruden will be allowed to pull RG3 in favor of KG or Colt.[/quote]

Snyder can decree it all he wants, but a season ending injury is looking like a forgone conclusion. Other QBs get tackled. RG3 gets blown the f@ck up. No one in the history of tackle football has taken worse hits on a consistent basis. The man is incapable of being taken to the ground in a normal fashion.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117057]For real, people seem to forget Kirk falling apart last year.

I think the plan should be to keep Kirk until he falls apart and let McCoy finish the season.[/quote]

Nobody forgets. They're just smart enough to know that most QBs, even the best ones, struggle in their first 20 or so starts and Cousins has only started 9 games. And falling apart to the tune of 10TDs and 9INTs isn't exactly abnormal. RG3 with 30 plus starts under his belt only had 16TDs and 12INTs when he wasn't too busy breaking his own ankle. Hardly night and day. If KC solves the interception problem, like many young QBs do, the rest of his stats put him among the league leaders. He was on pace for over 4000 yards and 32 TDs and his play enabled the Wide Receivers to participate in games.

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[QUOTE=44Deezel;1117210]Nobody forgets. They're just smart enough to know that most QBs, even the best ones, struggle in their first 20 or so starts and Cousins has only started 9 games. And falling apart to the tune of 10TDs and 9INTs isn't exactly abnormal. RG3 with 30 plus starts under his belt only had 16TDs and 12INTs when he wasn't too busy breaking his own ankle. Hardly night and day. If KC solves the interception problem, like many young QBs do, the rest of his stats put him among the league leaders. He was on pace for over 4000 yards and 32 TDs and his play enabled the Wide Receivers to participate in games.[/QUOTE]


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[quote=rickmmrr;1117191]RGIII thinks "standing in the pocket" means literally "standing still in the pocket".
RGIII thinks "not relying on your athleticism" means literally "standing still in the pocket"

I can't help thinking that when RGIII is out on the field he's purposely giving a big FU to Gruden for not letting him play the way he wants. Kind of like. See what happens when I play your way. I'd be the greatest QB in football if I could just play the way I want to.

Even his comments in training camp like "I'm playing the way they want me to". just sounds like something a team guy would never say. Just seems like he has a lot of backhanded veiled subtle comments, that ultimately say, "Everyone is against me, it's me against the world"

I don't know how anyone on the team could hear the comment "I'm the best QB on the team", and not think this guy is just a total douche.[/quote]

Agree with 90% of this

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/21/was-griffins-concussion-diagnosis-a-convenient-way-to-dodge-the-media/]Was Griffin’s concussion diagnosis a convenient way to dodge the media? | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Conspiracy theories abound. Members of the local media are speculating the concussion reports were to keep RG3 away from the media post game.

Explains why Joe reported that he was cleared of a concussion mid-game. Tandler says other members of the media that he trusts reported the same thing.

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[quote=kct1975;1117203]Sorry to be blunt...but No Matter What Happens...RG3 will be the starter for the regular season against the Dolphins, because Dan Synder has already decreed it.

Even if RG3 sux next week and the final week of the preseason, and KG and Colt look great, RG3 will be the starter against the Dolphins...the only hope is that if RG3 sux against the Dolphins, hopefully Jay Gruden will be allowed to pull RG3 in favor of KG or Colt.[/quote]

Really Dan Synder tells them RG3 has to start. Man I can't believe you people believe this. LOL

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1117221][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/21/was-griffins-concussion-diagnosis-a-convenient-way-to-dodge-the-media/]Was Griffin’s concussion diagnosis a convenient way to dodge the media? | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Conspiracy theories abound. Members of the local media are speculating the concussion reports were to keep RG3 away from the media post game.

Explains why Joe reported that he was cleared of a concussion mid-game. Tandler says other members of the media that he trusts reported the same thing.[/quote]

The Redskins did not want RG3 to talk to the moran media. They used the concussion as a way to get him off the hook. That was a smart move. RG3 has to learn that the media is not his friend and are only looking to sell stories.

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The media loves this kind of drama. RG3 was playing against the Lions 1st team defense. Trent Williams LT was not playing nor was D-Jax. Moses Sheriff and Willie Smith all looked bad when the Lions had the 1st string defense in the game. RG3 hung in the pocket on some of those hits and when he did Andre Roberts drops a 1st down pass that hit him in the hands. RG3 has to hang on to the ball no matter what happens. Colt and Cousins both have looked good in preseason but this is about RG3. I don’t understand why Jay Gruden did not call bootleg plays for RG3 like he did for Kurt and Colt. Our O-line was getting shoved back into RG3’s lap on several plays. Remember the O-Line is a work in progress on the right side. They are also being evaluated by the coaching staff. The Players on the O-line are not letting RG3 get sacked because they don’t like him that some BS if you even think that. They are pros who are battling for starting spots in the NFL. RG3 needs to take a page out of Marshawn Lynch’s press conference. Give the Media nothing. Lets slow down and see if RG3 can play the 3rd preseason game vs the Ravens. If he can’t then I guess we get to see Kurt or Colt with the one’s. HTTR

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[quote=44Deezel;1117210]Nobody forgets. They're just smart enough to know that most QBs, even the best ones, struggle in their first 20 or so starts and Cousins has only started 9 games. And falling apart to the tune of 10TDs and 9INTs isn't exactly abnormal. RG3 with 30 plus starts under his belt only had 16TDs and 12INTs when he wasn't too busy breaking his own ankle. Hardly night and day. If KC solves the interception problem, like many young QBs do, the rest of his stats put him among the league leaders. He was on pace for over 4000 yards and 32 TDs and his play enabled the Wide Receivers to participate in games.[/quote]

The problem for KC is he isn't going to be afforded the long rope that Griffin has. Snyder has given that to his BFF. Griffin is a made man. A real NFL franchise would give the coach authority to start which ever qb he wants.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1117228]The problem for KC is he isn't going to be afforded the long rope that Griffin has. Snyder has given that to his BFF. Griffin is a made man. A real NFL franchise would give the coach authority to start which ever qb he wants.[/quote]

Stop with the owner is making Jay play RG3.

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The Redskins should try to trade Kurt to the Jets ASAP before it's to late. Maybe we can fleece them for a 3rd round pick.

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[quote=rickmmrr;1117191]RGIII thinks "standing in the pocket" means literally "standing still in the pocket".
RGIII thinks "not relying on your athleticism" means literally "standing still in the pocket"

I can't help thinking that when RGIII is out on the field he's purposely giving a big FU to Gruden for not letting him play the way he wants. Kind of like. See what happens when I play your way. I'd be the greatest QB in football if I could just play the way I want to.

Even his comments in training camp like "I'm playing the way they want me to". just sounds like something a team guy would never say. Just seems like he has a lot of backhanded veiled subtle comments, that ultimately say, "Everyone is against me, it's me against the world"

I don't know how anyone on the team could hear the comment "I'm the best QB on the team", and not think this guy is just a total douche.[/quote]

[quote=SmootSmack;1117219]Agree with 90% of this[/quote]


Make it 100% for me.

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[quote=rocnrik;1117200]This maybe the last chance for Robert ..if he looks bad against the Ravens what do you guys think will happen?[/quote]

nothing

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[quote=skins89moss;1117225]Really Dan Synder tells them RG3 has to start. Man I can't believe you people believe this. LOL[/quote]

I believe that Snyder has already told JG that RG3 starts no matter what. Why would the coach risk his job? I don't think it's that far fetched at all to believe that something like this has happened...

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well at least I am not alone on my views ..I said during the game on here the injury looked (faked/staged..etc) to me ..i also do believe that Snyder has way to much to do with this QB situation..although I REALLY hope that is not the case..I would love to see RGlll be the answer BUT I see nothing to indicate he will..the drama continues….

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[quote=skins89moss;1117225]Really Dan Synder tells them RG3 has to start. Man I can't believe you people believe this. LOL[/quote]

There apparently will.....always be ridiculous "Dan" conspiracy theories.
He was the second shooter on the Grassy knoll.....

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1117233]I believe that Snyder has already told JG that RG3 starts no matter what. Why would the coach risk his job? I don't think it's that far fetched at all to believe that something like this has happened...[/quote]

Gruden appeared done with RG3 last year the way he was ripping him in the media. I don't think a coach would use that as a motivational tool. Sounded like he would of happily traded Robert for a six pack and a bag of pretzels, then this year he names him the starter before training camp? Either Gruden changed his opinion of Robert 180 degrees or someone changed it for him.

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Think about what you heard SM state to the media before t-camp. Robert has to much raw talent and.........potential (not to mention investment) to kick him to the curb unless they know for sure he cannot get it done.
It is painful to watch, but this is part of the process. He has mostly not looked good but nobody could accurately judge him based on the crappy protection he is getting.....

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[quote=Hog1;1117247]There apparently will.....always be ridiculous "Dan" conspiracy theories.
He was the second shooter on the Grassy knoll.....[/quote]

The thing about Dan Snyder is that no matter how ridiculous the conspiracy theories about him are the truth is often even more absurd. After he sued a broke elderly widow who couldn't afford to pay for tickets, sold fans stale peanuts he bought from a bankrupt airline, forced fans to turn their T-shirts inside out or be ejected from the stadium, closed down a church parking lot, and many other ridiculous things, his mandating that RGIII will be the starter is very easy for me to believe.

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Someone is telling Gruden to start Griffin but I don't think it's Snyder.

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[quote=skins89moss;1117226]The Redskins did not want RG3 to talk to the [B]moran[/B] media. They used the concussion as a way to get him off the hook. That was a smart move. RG3 has to learn that the media is not his friend and are only looking to sell stories.[/quote]

You are so right! The media types are a bunch of maroons.

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[quote=Mattyk;1117252]Someone is telling Gruden to start Griffin but I don't think it's Snyder.[/quote]

No, to be crystal clear, Snyder is just the one who is telling the one who is telling Gruden to start Griffin to tell Gruden to start Griffin.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000514192/Kurt-Warner-diagnoses-why-RGIII-is-struggling?campaign=Facebook_]Kurt Warner diagnoses why Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is struggling - NFL Videos[/url]

I thought this was a fair assessment

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[quote=Hog1;1117249]Think about what you heard SM state to the media before t-camp. Robert has to much raw talent and.........potential (not to mention investment) to kick him to the curb unless they know for sure he cannot get it done.
It is painful to watch, but this is part of the process. [B]He has mostly not looked good but nobody could accurately judge him based on the crappy protection he is getting....[/B].[/quote]

A lot of times it seems he drops back to point X and stands there, he is less evasive in the pocket than Brady or Manning. An ability to side step, or step back or up when feeling the rush would buy him more time and he wouldn't take as many hits. Plenty of QBs make plays when the pocket breaks down.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1117256]A lot of times it seems he drops back to point X and stands there, he is less evasive in the pocket than Brady or Manning. An ability to side step, or step back or up when feeling the rush would buy him more time and he wouldn't take as many hits. Plenty of QBs make plays when the pocket breaks down.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Perfectly said! [emoji106]

Even KC and Colt are more mobile than RG3 in that respect. When Colt and KC were in the game on Thursday, both dodged the rush better then RG3 did.

As you mentioned, at times, RG3 drops back, and then stands there like a statue as he 'goes through he progressions'.
At least Colt and KC move around in the pocket.


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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1117251]The thing about Dan Snyder is that no matter how ridiculous the conspiracy theories about him are the truth is often even more absurd.[B] After he sued a broke elderly widow who couldn't afford to pay for tickets, sold fans stale peanuts he bought from a bankrupt airline, forced fans to turn their T-shirts inside out or be ejected from the stadium, closed down a church parking lot, and many other[/B] ridiculous things, his mandating that RGIII will be the starter is very easy for me to believe.[/quote]

I hear you but you don't think some or most of these things are.....dramatized, if not manufactured? I have not even heard of most of that.
Let's face it, it has become fun for all to bash DS....
AND, as MK has eluded, I can totally see SM getting Gruden to play the kid. Have no problem with it. We NEED to know if he can get it done and if not, move on. No matter some of the things that have been written, we are in rebuild mode, and have to have some of these Q's answered. I hate losing, but for now it is more important to correctly evaluate what we have and build for the future...........

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1117256]A lot of times it seems he drops back to point X and stands there, he is less evasive in the pocket than Brady or Manning. An ability to side step, or step back or up when feeling the rush would buy him more time and he wouldn't take as many hits. Plenty of QBs make plays when the pocket breaks down.[/quote]
I naturally see that to. He needs to...............slide.........somewhere to NOT take those hits!!!
DAMN!!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1117252]Someone is telling Gruden to start Griffin but I don't think it's Snyder.[/QUOTE]


Opposing defenses?

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[quote=Hog1;1117259]I hear you but you don't think some or most of these things are.....dramatized, if not manufactured? I have not even heard of most of that.[/quote]

No, these are facts. Perhaps Snyder wasn't personally involved in some of them but that's the type of business he runs. A local newspaper ran an article listing many of these types of things and Danny sued the author and the paper but later dropped the law suit.

This is from the above mentioned article, [I]The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder[/I]: "During the 2006 season, vendors offered shelled nuts in royal blue and white 5 oz. bags adorned with the Independence Air logo. Problem: The airline had gone under about a year earlier. The supplier told Washington City Paper that it stopped shipping the airline’s nuts 'before Independence Air went out of business'. A spokesman for the Peanut Council told City Paper that to prevent rancidity, the recommended shelf life of a foil bag of out-of-shell peanuts was 'about three months'."

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So you're saying DS purchased out of date peanuts, expressly for the purpose of:
A) Poison the fanbase?
B) Insult Jimmy carter (come on, let's see what you got)?
C) Saving a few bucks on a classically good Mr. Peanut deal?
D) he dun F...d up?
WTF.....I would have thought they have a half-life of like 200 years