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I thought Mexico was paying for the un needed Wall ,that is what trump said!

[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-again-threatens-to-shut-down-government-1532881369[/url]

WASHINGTON—President Trump renewed a threat to shut down the government unless Congress provides money for a wall at the southern border and enacts new curbs on immigration, reviving a battle he said last month should wait until Republicans gained more solid majorities after the November elections.[U][U][/U][/U]:bdh:

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I've said all along, I don't care if Mexico pays for it, yeah it was a campaign thing, but the important part is to build the d*** thing with secured funding. I liken it to a toll highway, you secure funding, build the highway recoup the cost with tolls... Build the wall, add a wall surcharge to every central american visa for the next 30 years. People aren't going to stop applying for visas. Over 3M visas have been approved each year since 2010. A $50 wall fee would pay for a substantial portion of the wall over 8 years. The current charge is 180, so that would be 230. There also is a $160 border crossing fee, which you could also raise, and again, like a toll pay back the construction of the wall.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1197068]I thought Mexico was paying for the un needed Wall ,that is what trump said!



[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-again-threatens-to-shut-down-government-1532881369[/url]



WASHINGTON—President Trump renewed a threat to shut down the government unless Congress provides money for a wall at the southern border and enacts new curbs on immigration, reviving a battle he said last month should wait until Republicans gained more solid majorities after the November elections.[U][U][/U][/U]:bdh:[/QUOTE]



Well he has absolutely nobody in charge of our cyber security so why not see what his pal Putin can do this time. Makes perfect sense really. [emoji849]

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1197074]I've said all along, I don't care if Mexico pays for it, yeah it was a campaign thing, but the important part is to build the d*** thing with secured funding. I liken it to a toll highway, you secure funding, build the highway recoup the cost with tolls... Build the wall, add a wall surcharge to every central american visa for the next 30 years. People aren't going to stop applying for visas. Over 3M visas have been approved each year since 2010. A $50 wall fee would pay for a substantial portion of the wall over 8 years. The current charge is 180, so that would be 230. There also is a $160 border crossing fee, which you could also raise, and again, like a toll pay back the construction of the wall.[/QUOTE]



Its a really good plan for a really useless thing. Let’s concentrate on the real problem in this world. A murderous dictator who is hell bent on flexing his muscle in the world and saving face from the fall of the Soviet Union.

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The wall has got to be one of the dumbest ideas ever

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[quote=MTK;1197077]The wall has got to be one of the dumbest ideas ever[/quote]

it just got 10 ft higher!

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197077]The wall has got to be one of the dumbest ideas ever[/QUOTE]



Simple idea for simple minded people that symbolizes keeping the “different” kind of people out. Said it once and ill say it again. Put him on the other side of it and you will get unanimous support to build it asap!

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[quote=MTK;1197077]The wall has got to be one of the dumbest ideas ever[/quote]

Walls have been successful throughout history at keeping people out. Keeping them in not so much.

It's "dumb" because as G1 would say - you don't like it, but in terms of effectiveness, there is no better method to deter illegal border crossing.

[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/"]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/[/URL]

[URL="https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/"]https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/[/URL]

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You know how to stop the drug trafficking? Stop doing them. Fuck the wall.

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It's dumb because it's a huge waste of money. It's dumb because Mexico isn't going to pay for it. It's dumb because undocumented migration from Mexico has sharply declined since it peaked in 2008. And most of all it's dumb because... [URL="https://www.ksat.com/news/border-news/sheriff-more-than-110-drug-tunnels-discovered-in-border-town-of-nogales"]tunnels[/URL].

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[quote=punch it in;1197083]You know how to stop the drug trafficking? Stop doing them. Fuck the wall.[/quote]

buy American made...loving my new vape oil/wax pen from DC!

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1197085]buy American made...loving my new vape oil/wax pen from DC![/QUOTE]



Yeah my stepson just took a job down there. Wish I could join him when i visit but Im in a holding pattern for a new job so I gotta be careful.
I was obviously referring to the crap drugs which so many of these hypocrites who want the wall built are obviously on. Wasn’t a direct quote to you Cred. Hope u didn’t take it as such.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197084]It's dumb because it's a huge waste of money. It's dumb because Mexico isn't going to pay for it. It's dumb because undocumented migration from Mexico has sharply declined since it peaked in 2008. And most of all it's dumb because... [URL="https://www.ksat.com/news/border-news/sheriff-more-than-110-drug-tunnels-discovered-in-border-town-of-nogales"]tunnels[/URL].[/QUOTE]



I would add its dumb because who the fuck are the white people to say “get out” but i digress....

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[URL="https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/30/trump-lawyer-rudy-giuliani-collusion-is-not-a-crime.html"]Trump repeatedly denied collusion. Now his lawyer Rudy Giuliani says: 'Collusion is not a crime'[/URL]

:doh:

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[quote=MTK;1197084]It's dumb because it's a huge waste of money. It's dumb because Mexico isn't going to pay for it. It's dumb because undocumented migration from Mexico has sharply declined since it peaked in 2008. And most of all it's dumb because... [URL="https://www.ksat.com/news/border-news/sheriff-more-than-110-drug-tunnels-discovered-in-border-town-of-nogales"]tunnels[/URL].[/quote]

............and it's dumb becuase it is not the only way people come into this country illegally.No wall for the Canadian border or the West or East coast,I wonder why? No wall for Florida?