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SkinzWin 02-06-2012 11:46 AM

Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search
 
[quote=Ruhskins;882603]For those that want Richardson I ask, when was the last time a premier RB started in the Super Bowl?

We've had a lot of RBs by committee in the SB for the past couple of seasons, including this year's SB. I just feel that spending a top 10 pick on a RB is not that much worth it anymore.[/quote]

Especially with Shanny's knack for finding late round and FA diamonds in the rough. Doesn't everyone think Helu and Royster looked good enough last year to be the future without having to give up our top pick for a RB? That would be silly IMO.

GMScud 02-06-2012 11:56 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;882603]For those that want Richardson I ask, when was the last time a premier RB started in the Super Bowl?

[B]We've had a lot of RBs by committee in the SB for the past couple of seasons, including this year's SB. I just feel that spending a top 10 pick on a RB is not that much worth it anymore[/B].[/quote]

It's a good point. Guys like AP, Lesean McCoy, Matt Forte, and Chris Johnson are great players, but it's just seems like RB's these days aren't the players that really put teams over the hump. It's a passers league now more than ever. Safties, corners, WRs, QB's, and even TE's (as this past season has showed us) are skyrocketing in importance. Look at the most recent SB champions- Giants, Steelers, Saints, Packers, Giants.... None have really had a workhorse back.

I think Trent Richardson is an excellent player, but I wouldn't be happy at all if we took him at #6.

That Guy 02-06-2012 12:19 PM

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unless its AP, you shouldn't draft RBs in the first round. QBs, LTs, and DL guys are much harder to find outside of round 1 that'll make a huge difference... 1st round CBs aren't a bad idea either.

mooby 02-06-2012 12:23 PM

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[quote=GMScud;882607]It's a good point. Guys like AP, Lesean McCoy, Matt Forte, and Chris Johnson are great players, but it's just seems like RB's these days aren't the players that really put teams over the hump. It's a passers league now more than ever. Safties, corners, WRs, QB's, and even TE's (as this past season has showed us) are skyrocketing in importance. Look at the most recent SB champions- Giants, Steelers, Saints, Packers, Giants.... None have really had a workhorse back.

I think Trent Richardson is an excellent player, but I wouldn't be happy at all if we took him at #6.[/quote]

I'd be pissed if we took him at 6. Gamechanger or not, we already have other holes that need to be filled first, and as history has shown, Shanny has had no problem getting production out of lesser backs. In fact, Shanny is the one coach who will probably never take a running back in the first round.

skinsguy 02-06-2012 12:25 PM

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Assuming we got Peyton Manning, I think you'd burn the first pick on either the offensive line or a top notch corner. I'm sure Manning would appreciate solid pass protection up front.

Running backs just don't rule the NFL anymore. It's become very pass happy, and I used to be one of those who would argue against this point up and down, but I realize this is the truth now. Richardson could probably be picked up by somebody in the late first round if not second. That's just how it is with running back nowadays.

GMScud 02-06-2012 12:28 PM

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[quote=mooby;882619]I'd be pissed if we took him at 6. Gamechanger or not, we already have other holes that need to be filled first, and as history has shown, Shanny has had no problem getting production out of lesser backs. In fact, Shanny is the one coach who will probably never take a running back in the first round.[/quote]

If we had Clinton Portis and little else on our roster, I think Richardson would be worthy of some strong consideration. But Helu, Royster, and Hightower (if we bring him back), we're looking pretty deep/strong. Maybe we take another Royster-type guy in the later rounds, but I'd be surprised if Trent is anywhere near our radar. If he's there at 6 though, maybe we trade down with a team coveting him.

Jontrem 02-06-2012 12:33 PM

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It would really only take one surprise for Blackmon to be available when we draft. I can easily see it happening.

mooby 02-06-2012 12:36 PM

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[quote=Jontrem;882628]It would really only take one surprise for Blackmon to be available when we draft. I can easily see it happening.[/quote]

I hope that's the case. Blackmon is a nice consolation prize if our qb isn't there at 6 and they don't want to trade up to get him.

WilbursHomie 02-06-2012 12:44 PM

Is Grossman paid starter money or a back up?

Dirtbag59 02-06-2012 02:11 PM

Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search
 
[quote=mooby;882630]I hope that's the case. Blackmon is a nice consolation prize if our qb isn't there at 6 and they don't want to trade up to get him.[/quote]

I think he will be there at 6 mainly because Seattle or Miami is likely to trade up with St. Louis for RGIII. The question is weather the Redskins take him or try to trade down for more picks.

I think they're trying to figure out a way to get Tannehill along with another offensive blue chip prospect. Ideally they probably would love Blackmon in the first and Tannehill in the second but I have doubts that Tannehill will last that long. And they don't seem enamored with Foles.

artmonkforhallofamein07 02-06-2012 02:14 PM

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[quote=WilbursHomie;882636]Is Grossman paid starter money or a back up?[/quote]

He is a free agent as of the first couple of weeks of March.

He is not under contract for next year.

GMScud 02-06-2012 02:15 PM

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[quote=WilbursHomie;882636]Is Grossman paid starter money or a back up?[/quote]

He was paid back up money to be a starter last year. He's currently a UFA.

SmootSmack 02-06-2012 02:25 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;882651]I think he will be there at 6 mainly because Seattle or Miami is likely to trade up with St. Louis for RGIII. The question is weather the Redskins take him or try to trade down for more picks.

I think they're trying to figure out a way to get Tannehill along with another offensive blue chip prospect. Ideally they probably would love Blackmon in the first and Tannehill in the second but I have doubts that Tannehill will last that long. And they don't seem enamored with Foles.[/quote]

There are some who say Blackmon isn't #1 or even #2 on their WR draft big board. I'm not so sure that's true, but Wright and Floyd get mentioned as much if not more.

I think you could see them move up into the mid to bottom of the first for a guy like Tannehill (possibly Weeden) or down into the mid to bottom of the 2nd/top of the 3rd for a Foles/Cousins

Or that 3rd rounder might be heading to NE for Hoyer

Dirtbag59 02-06-2012 02:28 PM

Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search
 
[quote=SmootSmack;882656]There are some who say Blackmon isn't #1 or even #2 on their WR draft big board. I'm not so sure that's true, but Wright and Floyd get mentioned as much if not more.

I think you could see them move up into the mid to bottom of the first for a guy like Tannehill (possibly Weeden) or down into the mid to bottom of the 2nd/top of the 3rd for a Foles/Cousins

Or that 3rd rounder might be heading to NE for Hoyer[/quote]

I have to admit I'm intrigued by Hoyer. In the meantime have you heard any buzz about the Skins taking someone like Riley Reiff (OT Iowa) or is that just something conjured up by armchair GM's?

SmootSmack 02-06-2012 02:37 PM

Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;882658]I have to admit I'm intrigued by Hoyer. In the meantime have you heard any buzz about the Skins taking someone like Riley Reiff (OT Iowa) or is that just something conjured up by armchair GM's?[/quote]

This early in the game most people are speculating, generally based on info that is allowing them to make these inferences. So, knowing that Brown's less than 50% to return, knowing that they are looking to target WR and OG in Free Agency, knowing that Trent Williams is "one strike away" and putting aside the QB scenario for a minute it's not too difficult to look at OT and DB as two positions that could be targeted at the #6


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