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What cracks me up is the NFL actually spent millions on this, put in numerous amounts of hours, all cause a ball was deflated 1.2 psi. Think about how really stupid that is, and how ridiculous it is that they would go to those lengths to prove something so minor.

To me it just should have been handled with a simple phone call by someone in the league office to the head coach. A warning should have been given and be done with it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1113313]What cracks me up is the NFL actually spent millions on this, put in numerous amounts of hours, all cause a ball was deflated 1.2 psi. Think about how really stupid that is, and how ridiculous it is that they would go to those lengths to prove something so minor.

To me it just should have been handled with a simple phone call by someone in the league office to the head coach. A warning should have been given and be done with it.[/quote]

Yeah. You're an idiot.

What does the NFL sell? Incredibly competitive football games. So competitive that they draw in the emotions of millions of fans willing to pay tons of money to attend those games, watch them on TV, buy concessions, buy jerseys, etc. etc.

But as soon as the competitiveness of the very product they're selling is compromised, you're talking about risking the Golden Goose.

The time and money spent on the Wells report pales in comparison to protecting the immense revenue stream their competitive games generate.

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Yeah. What Schneed said. Seriously, for everyone saying it's no big deal, it the same reason they pay guys to make sure players tuck in their shirts and fine players for tiny uniform infractions.

It's a brand. Brands don't get eroded by big violations but rather by small infractions which undermine the brand's uniformity and integrity.

Plus. Brady is rat ass liar.

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[quote=Schneed10;1113317]Yeah. You're an idiot.

What does the NFL sell? Incredibly competitive football games. So competitive that they draw in the emotions of millions of fans willing to pay tons of money to attend those games, watch them on TV, buy concessions, buy jerseys, etc. etc.

But as soon as the competitiveness of the very product they're selling is compromised, you're talking about risking the Golden Goose.

The time and money spent on the Wells report pales in comparison to protecting the immense revenue stream their competitive games generate.[/quote]


He isn't an idiot. The 1.2psi had zero impact on the outcome of that game.

If competition is the rationale, the league should have punished the Colts for playing terrible.

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[quote=Schneed10;1113317]Yeah. You're an idiot.

What does the NFL sell? Incredibly competitive football games. So competitive that they draw in the emotions of millions of fans willing to pay tons of money to attend those games, watch them on TV, buy concessions, buy jerseys, etc. etc.

But as soon as the competitiveness of the very product they're selling is compromised, you're talking about risking the Golden Goose.

The time and money spent on the Wells report pales in comparison to protecting the immense revenue stream their competitive games generate.[/quote]

Brilliant! Could not have said it better myself.
The integrity of the game is more important to a $9 Billion a year league than the cost of a thorough investigation. The NFL pays their commissioner $32 million a year. So what. What the fuck does the cost of the investigation have to do with this?
There is video evidence that the game balls were [B][U]illegally[/U][/B] taken into a bathroom stall and tampered with after the refs checked them. There are text messages that Brady refused to release to the investigation. I wonder why?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1113320]He isn't an idiot. The 1.2psi had zero impact on the outcome of that game.

If competition is the rationale, the league should have punished the Colts for playing terrible.[/quote]

The punishment is not so much about the 1.2psi. It is about not cooperating with a serious NFL investigation on a team that has cheated and been caught before. Why did Brady not give up his texts? Why did the Patriots not make the ball guy available one more time after the investigation had discovered new evidence and wanted to ask him about it?

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[quote=Defensewins;1113321]Brilliant! Could not have said it better myself.
The integrity of the game is more important to a $9 Billion a year league than the cost of a thorough investigation. The NFL pays their commissioner $32 million a year. So what. What the fuck does the cost of the investigation have to do with this?
There is video evidence that the game balls were [B][U]illegally[/U][/B] taken into a bathroom stall and tampered with after the refs checked them. There are text messages that Brady refused to release to the investigation. I wonder why?[/quote]

Integrity?

Couldn't help but chuckle a little.

We're talking about the league that facilitates prescription drug proliferation and addiction?

The league that went to the ends of the earth to cover up concussion related information until they couldn't?

The league whose officials were caught on the Dallas Cowboy party bus with a bunch of future Hooters' waitresses?

The league who didn't realize knocking a woman out cold was really bad until the news media told them it was after they botched the punishment?

The league who knows Jerry Jones is talking to other teams' running backs and determines the tampering rules don't apply to the Cowboys?

The league who creates a "Commissioner's exempt list" out of thin air?

The league who penalized the Redskins 30+ million dollars for violating cap rules that didn't exist?

This league does whatever it wants with no consistency.

Every team breaks rules and most of those violations end exactly like the post above says, with a phone call that says we know what you're doing, quit.

Brady's punishment is a farce. Zero impact on the competitiveness of that game.

Intentionally roughing the passer has more of an impact on the outcomes of games than deflating a ball 1.2 psi. Suspend those guys. They are intentionally breaking a rule that impacts the competitiveness of the game.

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[quote=Defensewins;1113322]The punishment is not so much about the 1.2psi. It is about not cooperating with a serious NFL investigation on a team that has cheated and been caught before. Why did Brady not give up his texts? Why did the Patriots not make the ball guy available one more time after the investigation had discovered new evidence and wanted to ask him about it?[/quote]

I would guess because there were incriminating as hell.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1113320]He isn't an idiot. The 1.2psi had zero impact on the outcome of that game.

If competition is the rationale, the league should have punished the Colts for playing terrible.[/quote]

That's like saying, Yeah I ran the red light/stop sign, but I didn't cause an accident. Why should I get a ticket?

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;1113325]That's like saying, Yeah I ran the red light/stop sign, but I didn't cause an accident. Why should I get a ticket?[/quote]

Ummm no it's not. It's like saying I shouldn't spend the next year in jail for running the light.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1113324]I would guess because there were incriminating as hell.[/quote]

Bingo.
Brady made the personal choice not turn over his texts, knowing full well the risk of getting fined, suspended and his team getting fined and losing incredibly valuable draft picks. Rather than turning over the texts and (option 1) possibly getting exonerated. Or (option 2) turning over the texts, been found guilty, accepted the blame and taken full responsibility.
So now that Brady made the personal decision not to turn over possible incriminating texts then take the next logical step: he lied to the fans, his coach, his owner, the league, the commissioner and to most importantly the investigation. Obstruction of justice is a crime not just in the NFL but everywhere in this country.
This is no longer about 1.2psi.
It is about a team that has been caught TWICE breaking the rules and now not cooperating with an impartial investigation.

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[url=http://deadspin.com/aaron-rodgers-likes-to-tamper-with-footballs-too-1680676328]Aaron Rodgers Likes To Tamper With Footballs, Too[/url]

Suspend him too I guess. It would be the only way to preserve the integrity of the game.

I'm not for Brady's suspension but I really wish we didn't face him or Hardy this year.

The league probably consulted Jerrah about the length of each suspension while on the Cowboys' party bus.

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[quote=over the mountain;1113308]that would be a good mid-summer thread/poll:

Which penalty do you think was more harmful?[/quote]Hard to beat the vindictiveness of springing the "penalty" on us on the eve of free agency. And changing the "rules" on how we could split it up after announcing it. And repeated ad nauseum, we broke no rule. The NFL owners just couldn't enforce their illegal collusion to keep the cap in an uncapped year, when the Players Union could have acted. They could only get revenge on us afterwards, after DeMaurice Smith signed away the union's right to take action.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1101904]Alright it's over thank god. What's next?[B] Can it be fixed ever? Seriously I don't know if Dan will ever have a winner. I'm good with cleaning house. [/B]

Coaching staff
Qb
Defense

All of it[/quote]
Yes and.........Done....what else?

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[quote=Chico23231;1101912]first thing is we need to do is divert the Potomac river and run it through fed ex stadium in an attempt to finally put out the largest, continuously burning dumpster fire in the nfl.[/quote]
Fire out, have a nice day!