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firstdown 01-12-2007 02:42 PM

Re: sean taylor???
 
[quote=JDALY27;269688]Agreed 100%. Our entire defense seemed to collapse. AA was not the reason we went from 9th to 31st. This was supposed to be about ST so lets get back to him. He should be our defensive team Captin in 2007. The guy is still one of the best in the business at what he does. But our broken "foundation" never enabled him to roam free and make impact plays. He was always chasing a running back or reciever down the field after our defense gave up a huge play.......[/quote]
I do not think ST is a team captin type of guy.

JDALY27 01-12-2007 04:13 PM

Re: sean taylor???
 
[quote=firstdown;269717]I do not think ST is a team captin type of guy.[/quote]


Why would you say that. He's one of the hardest working Redskins at practice. He can be a leader by example not speaches. Who hits harder than Sean? He's a dynamic play maker that has not been used properly in my opinion. Giving him the C on his chest will only help his career and ultimately help the SKINS!

sportscurmudgeon 01-17-2007 12:45 AM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
Gaines Adams from Clemson played DE most of the time but also played inside once in a while. I saw him twice this year and he's pretty damned good. He's definitely a DE in the NFL but with all the weaknesses on the DL this year, the Skins cannot afford to ignore him.


If you recall, Sean Taylor was the guy who couldn't find the time to answer Joe Gibbs phone calls for an entire off season. That was two years ago. That's the behavior of a team captain? I don't think so.


If you also recall, the "problem" with Taylor's coverage this year was ascribed to the fact that he didn't have Ryan Clark next to him out there explaining the coverages to him after the calls amd in from the sidelines. Don't know if that's true, but it might explain why he was so out of position so many times. But if so, is that your defensive captain? If not, then do you reward someone with a captaincy after such a poor season?

dmek25 01-17-2007 06:52 AM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
i wish everyone would stop blaming the substandard season that taylor had on everything but his play

12thMan 01-17-2007 09:56 AM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
Dmek, I agree with you...Taylor tends to get a pass for his poor play for some reason. I know I'm guilty as anyone on this site. Can't really tell you why to tell you the truth.

I think my reasoning is Taylor is such an 'on field commodity' that you just feel like he's Gilbert Arenas in his own way; He can go 0 for 10, and then make the one play that changes or wins the game.

dmek25 01-17-2007 11:19 AM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
agreed. he really is a playmaker. but there are times when a good old fashined, solid tackle will due

GTripp0012 01-17-2007 11:22 AM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;270511]Gaines Adams from Clemson played DE most of the time but also played inside once in a while. I saw him twice this year and he's pretty damned good. He's definitely a DE in the NFL but with all the weaknesses on the DL this year, the Skins cannot afford to ignore him.
[/quote]If we do take Adams, we have 2 great pass rushing ends who suck at defending the run. That makes us the Colts, ferocious with a lead, but we'd just get run on all day.

Of course, the Colts D would be an improvement over this, but I'd much rather have Alan Branch, DT, Michigan.

12thMan 01-17-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
[quote=GTripp0012;270577]If we do take Adams, we have 2 great pass rushing ends who suck at defending the run. That makes us the Colts, ferocious with a lead, but we'd just get run on all day.

Of course, the Colts D would be an improvement over this, but I'd much rather have Alan Branch, DT, Michigan.[/quote]


I think Branch is our guy. It would be nice to trade down and get him and Woodley. Now that would be a coup!

JDALY27 01-17-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;270511]Gaines Adams from Clemson played DE most of the time but also played inside once in a while. I saw him twice this year and he's pretty damned good. He's definitely a DE in the NFL but with all the weaknesses on the DL this year, the Skins cannot afford to ignore him.


If you recall, Sean Taylor was the guy who couldn't find the time to answer Joe Gibbs phone calls for an entire off season. That was two years ago. That's the behavior of a team captain? I don't think so.


If you also recall, the "problem" with Taylor's coverage this year was ascribed to the fact that he didn't have Ryan Clark next to him out there explaining the coverages to him after the calls amd in from the sidelines.
Don't know if that's true, but it might explain why he was so out of position so many times. But if so, is that your defensive captain? If not, then do you reward someone with a captaincy after such a poor season?[/quote]

Do you remember the Eagles game last year? How about the Tampa playoff game? What about the run against Dallas this year? Without ST we would not have made the playoffs last year or beaten the hated COWBOYS at home this year (highlight of my year).

I was annoyed he didn't answer Gibbs calls but that was before he was a REDSKIN, still a Miami punk!

I'm amazed by the man b/c I think he has a chance to make a game winning play every game he plays......you can't coach that. What you can coach are coverages and techniques.

Also need a pass rush or some linebackers that can tackle. I guess Gibbs firing Linsey was a signal as to what part of our defense was weakess and underacheived the most????

Bill B 01-17-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Sean Taylor struggling???
 
[quote=12thMan;270603]I think Branch is our guy. It would be nice to trade down and get him and Woodley. Now that would be a coup![/quote]

If we got both of those guys our DL would become a strength - too bad Mike Ditka is no longer around making personelle decisions so we could make a trade.

I also believe Branch will make the LB's look a lot better than they were this year injuries aside.

mooby 01-17-2007 05:37 PM

Re: sean taylor???
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;269241]Who are the three good outside LB's? Washington, yes. Rocky? He barely played. I know you aren't talking about Holdman and I haven't seen enough of Marshall on the outside to say that he is good there.

Pick a position on the defense and you have a hole. You are correct that MLB is a huge liability as well.[/quote]

We saw Marshall at OLB in 2004 when Arrington was injured. He didn't make many big plays but he was solid against the run and in coverage. I believe it would be better if we moved Marshall back to the outside in 2007. He didn't make the right calls that a MLB has to make. That and he sucked in both pass and run coverage this year.


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