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MTK 05-14-2009 11:20 AM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
The no emotion thing doesn't really hold much water with me and really it's a baseless subjective complaint some fans seem to cling to. He didn't exactly keep quiet either, he did let it known that he was frustrated about what was going on.

In the end it's all about performance and leading by example. A fiery personality doesn't mean shit if you can't back it up.

I think it takes more balls to stand tall in the face of adversity and take the high road vs. bitching and whining to get what you want. I guarantee that his teammates have a lot more respect for him now with the way he has handled things this offseason.

Paintrain 05-14-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
[quote=Monksdown;557385]

Everyone looks to the positive in how Jason didn't respond like Cutler. I think it illustrates a flaw that Jason has in his personality. He's too soft spoken, and he doesnt stand up for himself. Where is the confidence?[/quote]
Confidence means you don't have to make a show to stand up for yourself, just go out and do what needs to be done.
[quote=Monksdown]
Not at all. I just knew he was going to react close to how he did because it's in his personality to keep quiet. I'm just worried, it's not because he classy, but because he doesnt know how to stand up for himself. That quote about Todd Collins asking the coaches a pass protection question because Jason was embarrassed really really sucks.

Havent you ever gotten frustrated with the same game face he has, win or lose? TD or Int. I see no emotion.[/quote]

What are you talking about? He did what a LEADER does when faced with adversity. Rather than talk about, he was doing something about it. During the Cutler madness day he was at Redskins Park, doing his weight work and throwing to receivers, like a leader should be doing. Talk and emotion are way overrated. It has nothing to do with 'not knowing how to stick up for himself'. If that was the case he would have stayed at home rather than face the questions he got of 'what are you doing here'? His response was perfect, 'I am the QB of this team until told otherwise.' Bullies and weaklings always feel the need to 'stick up for themselves', leaders lead by actions.

You're reading WAY too much into the Collins thing. If the story came out that he asked a question for something he should have known the reply would probably be 'what a dumbass, he can't even learn basic plays'.

GTripp0012 05-14-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
[quote=Monksdown;557385]Not at all. I just knew he was going to react close to how he did because it's in his personality to keep quiet. I'm just worried, it's not because he classy, but because he doesnt know how to stand up for himself. That quote about Todd Collins asking the coaches a pass protection question because Jason was embarrassed really really sucks.

Havent you ever gotten frustrated with the same game face he has, win or lose? TD or Int. I see no emotion.[/quote]Since I know that no one is crazy enough to base a player evaluation off of a throwaway tidbit in someone's column that's written to show a character trait of a totally different player, I'm going to assume you have inside information about Campbell the person that the rest of us aren't privy to.

Like, I think if you were his shrink, you would be able to develop an informed opinion on this.

I like Jason, so I was hoping you could tell us about his charity work or something.

freddyg12 05-14-2009 01:30 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
[quote=Monksdown;557362]That's great for Collins. And it just further illustrates how big of a p---y JC is. He was embarrassed to ask about a pass-protection scheme??? Do what!?

Everyone looks to the positive in how Jason didn't respond like Cutler. I think it illustrates a flaw that Jason has in his personality. He's too soft spoken, and he doesnt stand up for himself. Where is the confidence?[/quote]

I just got out of a mtg., during which I wanted to ask a question but decided not to. As my boss once said, in college they tell you 'there are no dumb questions' but in the working world, there are plenty of dumb questions.

Sometimes, it's best to think first & see if you can get the answer w/out asking for it in the middle of something. Granted, he's the QB & has got to know more than anyone else. So, really this comes down to study habits, not personality.

If you just said that you thought he wasn't prepared & plays like he isn't prepared, that's at least a reasonable judgement or educated guess. But that isn't a personality flaw. He had enough pride that he didn't want to look uninformed in front of his teamates, that doesn't sound like a personality flaw to me.

Monksdown 05-14-2009 01:50 PM

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I just felt like stirring the pot a bit. I honestly didn't put much thought into my statements. I retract my uninformed analysis of our flacid quarterback.

DBUCHANON101 05-14-2009 02:48 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
Ok, i know ill get blasted for this but this is my 2 on the JC deal
He didnt demand a trade or go all Cutler because he knows he is not Cutler who is a pro bowl QB, we tried to trade JC... NO TAKERS. rumor was we wanted a 2nd and went down to a 3rd and still here he is.Tells me im not alone. Id like to see JC break out this year and prove me wrong but i wouldnt bet my house on it.

MTK 05-14-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
He still could have raised a stink if he wanted to.

In the end who cares. He handled the situation with class. If some can't or won't appreciate that... fine. Some people are going to think what they want no matter what the reality of the situation is.

All that really matters is how he plays on Sundays. The same people crapping on him now will be wearing his jersey if he has a big year.

DBUCHANON101 05-14-2009 02:56 PM

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Like i said i want him to prove me wrong, if he does that means we have a great season.

DIRTEE 05-14-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
I think its all a learning experience, and he watched how Brunell handled the media and trade/demotion rumors. Jason will have an above average season, probably will be the sixth best QB in the NFC. I think the team will play better this season and that's the key.

rbanerjee23 05-14-2009 04:00 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
what the hell is wrong with the front office...also leftwich is fat as hell

tryfuhl 05-14-2009 07:57 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;557287]Here is Cooley's take on Colt Brennan.
Chris Cooley, Washington Redskins
No questions asked, Colt has the potential to be a starter in the NFL. He has all the qualities to get the job done. In the next couple of years, he'll get a shot somewhere.
[url=http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/250]NFL Live Chat[/url][/quote]


Tank, NJ
06:17 PM ET

I think Jared Cook will be better than you. What do you think?


Chris Cooley, Washington Redskins
I do not know who Jared Cook is. Obviously, you're not a 'Skins fan. I think Paris Hilton would probably be a better sports analyst than you.


hahahaha

tryfuhl 05-14-2009 08:05 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
[quote=Monksdown;557362]That's great for Collins. And it just further illustrates how big of a p---y JC is. He was embarrassed to ask about a pass-protection scheme??? Do what!?

Everyone looks to the positive in how Jason didn't respond like Cutler. I think it illustrates a flaw that Jason has in his personality. He's too soft spoken, and he doesnt stand up for himself. Where is the confidence?[/quote]

He definitely should've asked himself. Apparently Collins didn't have the grasp either, but I'd rather ask the question then not have the protection that I'm looking for.

tryfuhl 05-14-2009 08:09 PM

Re: Q.B. competition?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;557391]The no emotion thing doesn't really hold much water with me and really it's a baseless subjective complaint some fans seem to cling to. He didn't exactly keep quiet either, he did let it known that he was frustrated about what was going on.

In the end it's all about performance and leading by example. A fiery personality doesn't mean shit if you can't back it up.

I think it takes more balls to stand tall in the face of adversity and take the high road vs. bitching and whining to get what you want. I guarantee that his teammates have a lot more respect for him now with the way he has handled things this offseason.[/quote]

I agree to an extent and the standing up the face of adversity bit works great in the offseason. There's nothing like a QB that gets fired up in the huddle to make everybody squeeze that lil extra bit of hidden effort out though, that 110%. We don't know that Jason isn't like that in the huddle though, or at least I don't.


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