Re: Haynesworth rips Redskins' D scheme
 

[quote=Defensewins;646138]Great post. You are right.
With the type of players we now have on defense, Orakpo, Haynesworth, etc. we need an attacking defensive system. GM Allen needs to be careful who he brings in to be DC.
A bit off topic, but we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs a month ago. Why are the young guys not playing more? Jeremy Jarmon, Kevin Barnes, Marko Mitchell, Lendy Holmes, Edwin Williams, Robert Henson, etc.
Where are they and why are they not on the field? It is time to stop protecting these rookies and see what they have. Seeing someone like Phillip Daniels play at this point is a waste.[/quote]

Well Jarmon is on IR, I would like to have seen more of Barnes especially

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

Anyone ready to question Big Al on this one? Colinsworth has questioned our safety positioning all night.

Thanks for trying, Blache. You are behind the times but legitimate. Our head coach is a punchline.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;646695]Anyone ready to question Big Al on this one? Colinsworth has questioned our safety positioning all night.

Thanks for trying, Blache. You are behind the times but legitimate. Our head coach is a punchline.[/quote]


Got to to disagree here.Blache and Zorn are very respected around the league and both highly thought of.It's the prior upper management and ownership under question .Colinsworth also questioned Big Al's mouth last night"keep it in house".

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

I think Zorn is clearly respected as a player, but his "head coaching" skills are......suspect AT best

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Giantone;646836]Got to to disagree here.Blache and Zorn are very respected around the league and both highly thought of.It's the prior upper management and ownership under question .Colinsworth also questioned Big Al's mouth last night"keep it in house".[/quote]


Good one. And what evidence do you have that Zorn is "very respected". He was about to get canned by Seattle as a QB coach. No one wanted him as an OC let alone as a head coach and with his ineptitude here, he is probably done in the league.

Look at it this way, since you think he is so respected, what would you do if the Giants hired this bufoon tomorrow? That is what I thought. If this jackass got another job in the division, I would throw a party.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

Who in the living F### other than his people in Seattle respect Zorn?

Think about it. He was exposed as a bad play-caller when Sherm was brought in. He was shamed by having his duties "removed" from him, and now even he knows that he is a lame duck coach. Zorn is a laughing stock around the league. And it's sad because i think he is a good man, but being a good man doesn't equate to success in the NFL.

Zorn's NFL career is likely over. I could see him landing in Cleveland because of Mike Holmgren....but ONLY as a QB Coach....no way he is anything more....

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;646695]Anyone ready to question Big Al on this one? Colinsworth has questioned our safety positioning all night.

Thanks for trying, Blache. You are behind the times but legitimate. Our head coach is a punchline.[/quote]

All of this talk about Blache and is scheme is nothing but BS. I'm so tired of it. CC pointed out 1 or 2 plays that got exposed. That happens every single game to every team in the NFL. Everyone wants the guy to blitz but that would be the worse thing he could do. If we go blitz happy against Dallas they score 30+ points cause we can't cover anyone. Leaving our DB's and LB's in 1 on 1 isn't smart. Blache may be old school and stubborn but that is the best way to go with this group. Defense did their job last night IMO.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

Zorn is respected for being "such a good guy" and handling everything (though some of it is his own fault) the way he has. I don't think he's considered a well-respected head coach though. He shouldn't be

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Giantone;646836]Got to to disagree here.Blache and Zorn are very respected around the league and both highly thought of.It's the prior upper management and ownership under question .Colinsworth also questioned Big Al's mouth last night"keep it in house".[/quote]

The respect you speak of for Blache and Zorn does not come from the Redskin community.

It's very easy for Collinsworth to speak because he no longer plays, and is just continuing to beat the drums of those who came before him. There is much to criticize about the Blache defensive scheme, the server will crash before I finish if I were to list it all.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;646861]Good one. And what evidence do you have that Zorn is "very respected". He was about to get canned by Seattle as a QB coach. No one wanted him as an OC let alone as a head coach and with his ineptitude here, he is probably done in the league.

Look at it this way, since you think he is so respected, what would you do if the Giants hired this bufoon tomorrow? That is what I thought. If this jackass got another job in the division, I would throw a party.[/quote]

The "evidence" was very clear when....your owner threw him and the team under the bus,people came out from all over college and pro alike not only to defend Zorn but to make Snyder look like what he is .As for you question about the Giants and Zorn...I think he'd be good for Eli.Funny how fast you forgot how Danny and Vinnie put you in this hole ......not Zorn.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Longtimefan;646870]The respect you speak of for Blache and Zorn does not come from the Redskin community.

It's very easy for Collinsworth to speak because he no longer plays, and is just continuing to beat the drums of those who came before him. There is much to criticize about the Blache defensive scheme, the server will crash before I finish if I were to list it all.[/quote]

Of course it doesn't some of you have blinders on and admit that this is the owners fault not the coachs.The reason it's easy for Collinsworth is becuase it's true.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Giantone;646877]The "evidence" was very clear when....your owner threw him and the team under the bus,[B]people came out from all[/B] [B]over college and pro alike[/B] not only to defend Zorn but to make Snyder look like what he is .As for you question about the Giants and Zorn...I think he'd be good for Eli.Funny how fast you forgot how Danny and Vinnie put you in this hole ......not Zorn.[/quote]
i wouldn't put too much into that. coaching is like a brethren( kind of like most professions) they will stick up for each other, even if it isn't warranted

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

People spoke out against Zorn getting stripped of the playcalling duties because it was a dick move by Vinny in a last ditch effort to save his butt. Sure Zorn is a good guy but he's not head coach material.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Giantone;646879]Of course it doesn't some of you have blinders on and admit that this is the owners fault not the coachs.The reason it's easy for Collinsworth is becuase it's true.[/quote]

Fire the owner, problem solved. The time has come where solutions are in order. We have beat Snyder and his ownership practices to death. I'm all in favor of posivite thinking going foreward and offering up possible solutions to get this team back on track.

Re: Haynesworth Sent Home From Practice (rips defensive scheme/coaches)
 

[quote=Mattyk;646898]People spoke out against Zorn getting stripped of the playcalling duties because it was a dick move by Vinny in a last ditch effort to save his butt. Sure Zorn is a good guy but he's not head coach material.[/quote]

People said the same thing about Belicheck after Cleveland.Did Zorn make mistakes ...hell yeah,so did Gibbs in his first years,and I still think Joe Gibbs is one of the greatest coachs the NFL has ever seen.The owner created these problems,like when a player feels he is more powerful then the coach and doesn't have to listen to him......then you're done.