Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

I hope Shanahan and Allen are a lot smarter than some of the discussion on this site.This debate about Campbell, Colt and Bradford is a bunch of bull. It's really irrelevant to the serious problems the Redskins have. I would hate to see the Redskins invest heavily in a franchise quarterback, only to allow him to get killed behind a pathetic offensive line. The offense is completely doomed until they address the offensive line. Nothing will work. Not passing the ball or running. Any knowledgeable football fan should know that a team is only as good as the guys in the trenches, offensive and defensive lines. Teams with consistent success always build upfront. The problem with the Skins, they are always going after high profile players, wasting draft picks so they cannot build up their depth. Shanahan and Allen need to bread this cycle. Who they select with the #4 pick will dictate the path they choose. Picking a quarterback, coming off season ending surgery (Bradford), just to get him killed, is asinine. Thinking a quarterback that is coming back from a career threatening injury is also asinine.

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

I'd like for JC to be traded...have a veteran start for a year (someone LIKE Culpepper, Pennington, or Garcia), and have the drafted QB and Colt Brennan be the backups. Then next season, the draftee or Colt could be ready to start, and we have a veteran backup....

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=Mattyk;663806]Great way to put it. He's probably no better than a 6th rounder today than he was 2 years ago. I don't see where his stock has risen at all.[/quote]

I don't know. I'd say with that first preseason he proved he should have been drafted higher. Maybe 4th or 5th round. Possibly as high as the 3rd.

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[quote=Mc2guy;663590]That's BS. Shanahan found success with only one quarterback, Elway..[/quote]
Plummer and to a lesser extent, Griese, might disagree with you

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=redskins202;663600][B]

We are better without Candle. The OL is bad but when given time he does the same thing. OL does not let you:.

-Throw more accurate passes.
-Throw down the field perfect
- Make u read plays on the defense
-ETC

[/quote]
what the shit are you talking about? can somebody tell me, because I don't think that you can...

more accuracy? once you can set your feet that helps
throw down the field perfectly? see the first answer
make you read plays? ummm when you have time it's a lot easier

I don't think that Campbell is necessarily our long-term answer and I'm not saying he's perfect in any of those categories but for you to say that the OL doesn't affect those attributes is moronic at best.

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=hail_2_da_skins;663852]I hope Shanahan and Allen are a lot smarter than some of the discussion on this site.This debate about Campbell, Colt and Bradford is a bunch of bull. It's really irrelevant to the serious problems the Redskins have. I would hate to see the Redskins invest heavily in a franchise quarterback, only to allow him to get killed behind a pathetic offensive line. The offense is completely doomed until they address the offensive line. Nothing will work. Not passing the ball or running. Any knowledgeable football fan should know that a team is only as good as the guys in the trenches, offensive and defensive lines. Teams with consistent success always build upfront. The problem with the Skins, they are always going after high profile players, wasting draft picks so they cannot build up their depth. Shanahan and Allen need to bread this cycle. Who they select with the #4 pick will dictate the path they choose. Picking a quarterback, coming off season ending surgery (Bradford), just to get him killed, is asinine. Thinking a quarterback that is coming back from a career threatening injury is also asinine.[/quote]

That IS MY case for Colt. So we can use the 5 picks we have for the necessary OLineman we need to build sumthin that resembles an offense, and still get a fresh start at QB

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=redskins202;663610]Agreed. Sam Bradford is a good QB for Shanahan to have even Jimmy Clausen. I liked Colt Brennan but he doesn't have the mechanics in the throwing motion to do good.
[/quote]
Steve Young

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[quote=redskins202;663620]Thats funny. Todd Collins can make an good argument about that.


See.

Chefs game
See MNF Giants game.

Only reason Candle comes back up from his poor piss reading plays is because he knows his job is on the line. I herd on the LaVar show on JAN 7th that he said he doesnt welcome or approve of us drafting a QB because he feels like hes a starter in this league. He proved that in 08 with the trade thing he wanted, (btw nobody wanted him because he sucked) and now he wont want it right now. If we get a trade for him than holla loya,[/quote]
1 throw in each game won't get you there bud

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;663866]I don't know. I'd say with that first preseason he proved he should have been drafted higher. Maybe 4th or 5th round. Possibly as high as the 3rd.[/quote]

So what did the 2nd preseason prove?

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[quote=Mattyk;663898]So what did the 2nd preseason prove?[/quote]

5th rounder :D

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=PHazard;663872]That IS MY case for Colt. So we can use the 5 picks we have for the necessary OLineman we need to build sumthin that resembles an offense, and still get a fresh start at QB[/quote]

So, you believe that the Skins should take 5 offensive lineman in the draft and then start all of them?

Is that what your post is saying?

Shanahan has proven that he doesn't have to draft guys high to find good offensive lineman and giant guys don't really fit zone blocking well, so if they decide to go QB in round 1, I'm fine with it because their is finally someone competent making football decisions.

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[quote=Mattyk;663898]So what did the 2nd preseason prove?[/quote]
Zorn misused him








j/k

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=jdlea;663918]So, you believe that the Skins should take 5 offensive lineman in the draft and then start all of them?

Is that what your post is saying?

Shanahan has proven that he doesn't have to draft guys high to find good offensive lineman and giant guys don't really fit zone blocking well, so if they decide to go QB in round 1, I'm fine with it because their is finally someone competent making football decisions.[/quote]
That seems to be the nearly popular consensus, as if any lineman you draft will start immediately.

Re: Colt Brennan vs Rookie class
 

[quote=tryfuhl;663921]That seems to be the nearly popular consensus, as if any lineman you draft will start immediately.[/quote]

A 4th overall guy should probably step in and start immediately, but beyond that you don't really know. One would like to think you could get immediate starters in rounds 2-4, but you just don't know after that. To think that 5 starters (for one O Line) are coming out of this draft is dumber than thinking that Colt Brennan is a better prospect than Bradford right now.

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[quote=tryfuhl;663873]Steve Young[/quote]

Bernie Kosar