Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=iRepDMV;786787]Could that possibly be DeAngelo Williams?? ;)[/quote]


I hope so! Him and Torain look out

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;786784]I'd be happy with 8[/quote]

[LEFT]skinsfaninok, I hear ya! Its just that when you see the other 3 teams in the division that are settled at QB, Romo, Vick and little Manning, its just hard to see the Skins winning 4 or 5 in the division, which is what they need to do and CAN'T do year in and year out. In 2010 the Skins were 2-4 in div, 2009 0-6, 2008 3-3, 2007 3-3, 2006 1-5, 2005 5-1.

The pattern is that you have to go all the way back to 2005 to find the Skins having a winning record in the division. Even then they were just a Wildcard team.[/LEFT]

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=scowan;786795][LEFT]skinsfaninok, I hear ya! Its just that when you see the other 3 teams in the division that are settled at QB, Romo, Vick and little Manning, its just hard to see the Skins winning 4 or 5 in the division, which is what they need to do and CAN'T do year in and year out. In 2010 the Skins were 2-4 in div, 2009 0-6, 2008 3-3, 2007 3-3, 2006 1-5, 2005 5-1.

The pattern is that you have to go all the way back to 2005 to find the Skins having a winning record in the division. Even then they were just a Wildcard team.[/LEFT]
[/quote]


It all starts with QB and it always has. I'm just a fan of Locker but even if we drafted Cam, Gabbert etc. I'd still be happy because it's time for this team to get a QB of the future. Even with JC it didn't have the "franchise" QB feel to it. As for the rest of the East, both Phiily and Dallas have very AVG defenses, so that will help. Lets wait and see what we do this offseason, maybe we can create a pretty good team. Go get Rice at WR bring back Moss, Add a NT and another OL and who knows, But you are definitely right about the QB, this team needs one ASAP!

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=Buster;786781]Assuming he wants to sign with a contender like his agent said last night on 980:

New Orleans, Indy, New England, Green Bay, Baltimore, Tampa Bay could all use another RB.

New Orleans - always injured RBs
Indy - Releasing Addai, retaining only Donald Brown and Mike Hart, both injury-prone
New England - always a RRBC in need of another
Green Bay - they had no running game at the end of the year. Turned out they didn't need one, but should be addressed.
Baltimore - Parting ways with McGahee, so that leaves only Rice and McClain, who is more of a FB who can carry if needed
Tampa Bay - a lot of subpar pieces. Is LaGarrett Blount reliable? Is Cadillac Williams still alive?



[B]
Hopefully he'll return here for less money and a reduced role, but still as an important contributor.[/B][/quote]

Good list. All of those teams need a starting runningback, with help by a backup. I see where Portis would fit nice as a guy who could spell carries with someone else, maybe getting 5-10 carries a game as a 3rd down back or something similar, but i doubt highly that any of those teams will bring him in as a "Starter", and pay him "starter money".

Someone else on here said the most likely scenario is that he does a Brian Westbrook type deal, like around 1 million for 1 year, with incentives, so they can just test the waters with CP so to speak. IF/When he gets hurt, they wont be on the hook for huge money.

His age and the kind of money he in all likelihood is seeking might be a hinderence for him to sign on with a contender team.

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=Mattyk;786581]He could retire... depends on what his expectations are. He's simply not going to find a starting job in this league carrying the ball 20 times a game. If he's ok with being a role player at a decent $$, I'm sure he can find work.[/quote]


This should clear it up what he expects.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/clinton-portis/clinton-portis-in-washington-i.html]Redskins Insider - Redskins release Clinton Portis[/url]


[quote]Portis later added, "I'll never do [a two-running back system]. I wouldn't adopt that mind-set."[/quote]


Also, if you know who to follow on certain message boards, you'll know who the insiders are that give good info. Two of the three insiders I know of have all said Portis is NOT coming back at any price. One went on to even comment that Portis and Shanny really didn't like each other to begin with and that Portis love has always been with Gibbs and Snyder. His stay in DC is over.

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=iRepDMV;786787]Could that possibly be DeAngelo Williams?? ;)[/quote]

Or McGahee?

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=NC_Skins;786803]This should clear it up what he expects.

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/clinton-portis/clinton-portis-in-washington-i.html"]Redskins Insider - Redskins release Clinton Portis[/URL]





Also, if you know who to follow on certain message boards, you'll know who the insiders are that give good info. Two of the three insiders I know of have all said Portis is NOT coming back at any price. One went on to even comment that Portis and Shanny really didn't like each other to begin with and that Portis love has always been with Gibbs and Snyder. His stay in DC is over.[/quote]

Yeah that's what he's saying right now, and he should sell himself as high as he can I've got no problem with that. It's highly doubtful that anyone is going to sign him on to be their #1. Unless he's delusional I think he knows that deep down.

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=iRepDMV;786787]Could that possibly be DeAngelo Williams?? ;)[/quote]

At first, I was kinda undecided on D Williams...but if he is healthy and ready to play and not too high of a price, Id say bring him in.

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;786786]CP is the 2nd best Redskins RB ever, he had a very good run in WSH. I've always been a huge Portis fan.[/quote]

And he accomplished this [I]without[/I] The Hogs.

All the best Clinton. Thank you!

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

[quote=SkinDogg;786813]And he accomplished this [I]without[/I] The Hogs.

All the best Clinton. Thank you![/quote]

Good point. Early on, when he had a healthy Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas, a younger Dockery with a more-motivated Sellers and with Raymer at C instead of Rabach and the legend Ray Brown...he had a good line. The last few years though, he did a lot with no help in front of him.

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

Redskins release Dockery...

"Rich Campbell
Was skedded to make $3.8M. Easy decision. RT @Insider: #Redskins have released LG Derrick Dockery. Doc said Shanahan informed him today."

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

Dockery was an easy decision. I was excited about having him back but he's just not what he used to be, and isn't fit for the zone block scheme.

When we had C. Samuels-R. Thomas-C. Raymer-D. Dockery-Ray Brown...it looked like we could have a second coming of the Hogs. They WERE great for a while. Too bad it didn't last.

Re: Shanahan: Portis will be allowed to test the market (updated: Portis officially released)
 

Dockery news should probably be in a separate thread