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NC_Skins 11-19-2011 10:11 AM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;860673]The last Denver drive was 95 yards...95!

You are telling me that the "much heralded" Rex Ryan defense could not even stop the spread option? Or stop a QB whose accuracy is so bad that if he we're throwing from a boat he couldn't hit water?

My point is, there's a lot more wrong with the Jets then just the slow development (or dare I say, REGRESSION) of Sanchez. They are a team that has played in the last 2 conference championship games. The defense allowing a 95 yard drive in the final 2 minutes of a game is inexcusable.[/quote]


That "much heralded" defense is "much overrated". THAT has been the reason why I think the Jets have been a average team this year, and it's not because of their QB play (which is lacking). It's been their defense. That defense the past two years is nothing like the defense that is currently on the field. Losing Shaun Ellis was huge, and his production hasn't been replaced yet. They are giving up a average of 117 yards rushing per game with a 4.0 average per carry. That's not a good defense.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

NC_Skins 11-19-2011 10:17 AM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;860674]The league has caught up to ryans d in NY, Baltimore had ray Lewis and Ed reed BIG difference.. Yeah jets have revis but really who is that teams "great" LB or Pass Rusher?[/quote]


They lost their best pass rusher in Shaun Ellis (to the Pats), but I disagree with you that they lack a "great" LB. David Harris is a beast and one of the best linebackers in the AFC. The problem has been their defensive line. A good/great DL will make your linebackers into All-Pro. You mention Ray Lewis, but the key to the Ravens has and always will be their defensive line. Even dating back to when Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams anchored that line, they have been top notch since Ray Lewis has been there. Had RL played at Detroit, he most likely wouldn't be 1/2 the player he is today.

SmootSmack 11-19-2011 10:29 AM

The Jets were this close to a safety on that drive but Royal slipped out if the tackle. And then Revis decided to play the part of a matador

SirClintonPortis 11-19-2011 01:32 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=NC_Skins;860681]That "much heralded" defense is "much overrated". THAT has been the reason why I think the Jets have been a average team this year, and it's not because of their QB play (which is lacking). It's been their defense. That defense the past two years is nothing like the defense that is currently on the field. Losing Shaun Ellis was huge, and his production hasn't been replaced yet. They are giving up a average of 117 yards rushing per game with a 4.0 average per carry. That's not a good defense.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&season=2011&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url][/quote]
Losing Kris Jenkins also hurts.

sportscurmudgeon 11-19-2011 01:36 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=htownskinfan;860675]I didnt watch the game but I heard Cowturd say the jets played him different on the last drive then they had been playing him the whole game,basically they went into prevent defense mode and it backfired[/quote]

Indeed... If you get a chance to look at the replay, you will notice that the Jets had their nickel personnel on the field for just about every play of the final drive. That is one more DB and one less DL or LB on the field - - against a guy you would pray would spend the drive on pass plays.

Don't know who decided to do that - - Rex or the defensive coordinator - - but that decision came back to bite the Jets in the butt.

SirClintonPortis 11-19-2011 01:40 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=SmootSmack;860685]The Jets were this close to a safety on that drive but Royal slipped out if the tackle. And then Revis decided to play the part of a matador[/quote]

Royal is very adept at doing that on that swing pass. Mike Shanahan exploited this skill of his at least once.

NC_Skins 11-19-2011 01:54 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;860692]Losing Kris Jenkins also hurts.[/quote]

He wasn't really a factor in the 2010 and 2009 seasons. He played 1 game in 2010 and 6 in 2009 (Rex's first year), but he was beastly in 2008 though. Guy just couldn't really stay healthy, but he was good when he was in the game.

Chico23231 11-19-2011 03:35 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
Was just trolling a Eagles blog to laugh at the reactions to starting Vince Young when I looked over and noticed there links to various football subjects threads...You know what they call the Skins one: LOLRedskins. that sh*t pisses me off, tired of being the damn laughing stock of the league

sportscurmudgeon 11-19-2011 09:15 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=Chico23231;860701]Was just trolling a Eagles blog to laugh at the reactions to starting Vince Young when I looked over and noticed there links to various football subjects threads...You know what they call the Skins one: LOLRedskins. that sh*t pisses me off, tired of being the damn laughing stock of the league[/quote]

When Eagles' fans troll here they see their team called the Beagles.

When Cowboys' fans troll here they see their team called Cowpussies and Cowturds.

You get the idea.

If any of them are offended by that kind of name calling the advice we would give them is to stay away.

Perhaps that is good advice for you too?

Ruhskins 11-19-2011 11:01 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=Chico23231;860701]Was just trolling a Eagles blog to laugh at the reactions to starting Vince Young when I looked over and noticed there links to various football subjects threads...You know what they call the Skins one: LOLRedskins. that sh*t pisses me off, tired of being the damn laughing stock of the league[/quote]

Eh, the Eagles are much of a laughing stock. Any realist fan knew that what is going on with was very much a possibility. Meanwhile the Eagles were buying a SB (sounds familiar?) and it blew up in their face big time.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2011 11:27 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
The skins are widely known for being a joke

SirClintonPortis 11-19-2011 11:27 PM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=Ruhskins;860732]Eh, the Eagles are much of a laughing stock. Any realist fan knew that what is going on with was very much a possibility. Meanwhile the Eagles were buying a SB (sounds familiar?) and it blew up in their face big time.[/quote]

They are doing worse than we did. At least our "dream team" went 6-2 before collapsing. They started off bad, and might stay bad. :laughing-

Chico23231 11-20-2011 08:44 AM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;860719]When Eagles' fans troll here they see their team called the Beagles.

When Cowboys' fans troll here they see their team called Cowpussies and Cowturds.

You get the idea.

If any of them are offended by that kind of name calling the advice we would give them is to stay away.

Perhaps that is good advice for you too?[/quote]

Im gud, Ill just keep doing what the f*ck i wanna do. Curmudgeon is an understatement.

It wasnt that i was offended, but somber realization. Most of there threads just clown Snyder, which is well deserved as his tenure as owner.

NC_Skins 11-20-2011 11:00 AM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
Speaking of Jets.

[url=http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7260763/at-least-75k-fine-likely-rex-ryan-new-york-jets-source-says]At least $75K fine likely for Rex Ryan of New York Jets, source says - ESPN New York[/url]


[quote]"Hey, Rex, Belichick is better than you," the fan screamed to Ryan, who was walking off the field and into the locker room tunnel with the rest of the team at MetLife Stadium.

"Shut the f--- up," Ryan yelled back to the fan, who isn't seen in the video.[/quote]

lulz :laughing-


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mooby 11-20-2011 11:17 AM

Re: Around the NFL Week 11
 
[quote=NC_Skins;860792]Speaking of Jets.

[url=http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7260763/at-least-75k-fine-likely-rex-ryan-new-york-jets-source-says]At least $75K fine likely for Rex Ryan of New York Jets, source says - ESPN New York

[/quote]

He's just keeping it real. :cool-smil


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