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NC_Skins 05-31-2012 06:25 PM

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[quote=30gut;919416][B]But, he has yet to practice one live rep at TE.[/B]
Being a good blocker against DBs and the occasional LB is one thing.[/quote]

You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.

30gut 05-31-2012 07:09 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;919420]You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.[/quote]Actually, I already knew that as a WR he played in some TE sets last year when Davis was suspended.
Yes, I realize that he's added some size and he's a good blocker for a WR.
Yes, I realize that he's roughly the same size/speed combo as Shannon Sharpe.
However none of it means that Paul is a better blocker then Fred Davis.

30gut 05-31-2012 08:21 PM

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[YT]cFFv45j_JjE[/YT]Had to post this.
At the end of the tape about the 2:20 mark, make it full screen to see better.
But, the QBs are throwing posts then corner routes side by side.
And you can really see the ball jump out of Griffin hands.
On the post route you can see Griff and Rex release the ball at the same time and Griff's ball hits the WR first.
Then on the corner route Rex releases his pass first but Griff's pass almost hits the WR at the same time as Rex.

I just love watching this kid throw the football.
(his motion reminds me of Ken Stabler, well if Stabler was right handed, which kinda makes sense because i read in an article that Stabler was one Griffin II's favorite QBs)
His throwing motion is so clean.
It just looks right, like most of the good ones the ball just looks right coming out of their hands.
Someone defined art as the proper making of a thing to be made.
Well to me Griff's throws are works of art.
I gonna have to limit my post about this kid before I start saying some of the crazy stuff I think about him.
I gotta get this one off my chest, the way the kids moves, the grace and balance of his footwork and movement reminds me of Joe Montana except....well....turbo.

MTK 05-31-2012 08:27 PM

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His arm is major league caliber no doubt

NC_Skins 05-31-2012 08:33 PM

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[quote=30gut;919422]Actually, I already knew that as a WR he played in some TE sets last year when Davis was suspended.
Yes, I realize that he's added some size and he's a good blocker for a WR.
Yes, I realize that he's roughly the same size/speed combo as Shannon Sharpe.
However none of it means that Paul is a better blocker then Fred Davis.[/quote]

If Cooley's main weakness is his blocking, and he's a better blocker than Fred Davis, what does that tell you about Fred Davis?

I'm willing to bet you good money even right now that Paul is a better blocking TE than Fred Davis. Then again, it doesn't take much to be better than Davis in that area, but he isn't on the field b/c of his blocking. :)

I'm not making the claim he'll be starting by the end of the season. I merely said he has the talent to surpass FD and listed 2 areas he already does surpass him in.

30gut 05-31-2012 08:58 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;919431]If Cooley's main weakness is his blocking, and he's a better blocker than Fred Davis, what does that tell you about Fred Davis?[/quote]I think your perception of Davis blocking is based on old labels from 2 years ago.
I've seen David seal the edge in the running game and block DEs.
Is Davis inconsistent? Sure.
Does he miss blocks sometimes, sure who doesn't.
I have yet to see Paul seal the edge on or block a DE one-on-one or combo block with a Trent Williams on the outside stretch.


[quote]I'm willing to bet you good money even right now that Paul is a better blocking TE than Fred Davis. Then again, it doesn't take much to be better than Davis in that area, but he isn't on the field b/c of his blocking. :)[/quote]I'm not sure how I would collect after I won.
But, I'm sure we could ask someone to ask one the Skins coaches or people close to team if Paul is a better blocker then Davis.

Davis plays alot of snap and the reason he can be on the field so much is because of his blocking, his blocking makes him a complete TE.
And being a complete TE is part of the reason Davis was franchised tagged.

[quote]I'm not making the claim he'll be starting by the end of the season. I merely said he has the talent to surpass FD and listed 2 areas he already does surpass him in.[/quote]I think Paul has the tools to be good movement/match-up receiving threat TE.
And I can't wait to see him in game action.
But, I can't see him becoming an true in-line TE because of his blocking.
But then again, why would you take a movement TE and make them an in-line TE?

InsaneBoost 06-01-2012 12:43 AM

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Some photos we took today:

Griffin III:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7312351708_8f3618e8a9_z.jpg[/IMG]

Chris Cooley:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7312351754_18747b9680_z.jpg[/IMG]

Alfred Morris:
[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7214/7312352680_75374be494_z.jpg[/IMG]

Adam Gettis:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7312352588_721a4fa068_z.jpg[/IMG]

Santana Moss:
[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/7312352428_595bf5f701_z.jpg[/IMG]

Terrence Austin:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7312352344_203fd165b4_z.jpg[/IMG]

Hightower, Austin, Morgan:
[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7312352058_3d4feacdab_z.jpg[/IMG]

Pierre Garcon:
[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7221/7312351978_4d69981694_z.jpg[/IMG]

Kyle Shanahan and Robert Griffin III:
[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8009/7312351910_06fbe5e4db_z.jpg[/IMG]

Tristan Davis:
[IMG]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7095/7312351822_2285198b9d_z.jpg[/IMG]

REDSKINS4ever 06-01-2012 12:48 AM

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[quote=30gut;919433]I think your perception of Davis blocking is based on old labels from 2 years ago.
I've seen David seal the edge in the running game and block DEs.
Is Davis inconsistent? Sure.
Does he miss blocks sometimes, sure who doesn't.
I have yet to see Paul seal the edge on or block a DE one-on-one or combo block with a Trent Williams on the outside stretch.


I'm not sure how I would collect after I won.
But, I'm sure we could ask someone to ask one the Skins coaches or people close to team if Paul is a better blocker then Davis.

Davis plays alot of snap and the reason he can be on the field so much is because of his blocking, his blocking makes him a complete TE.
And being a complete TE is part of the reason Davis was franchised tagged.

I think Paul has the tools to be good movement/match-up receiving threat TE.
And I can't wait to see him in game action.
But, I can't see him becoming an true in-line TE because of his blocking.
But then again, why would you take a movement TE and make them an in-line TE?[/quote]

Indeed. The Redskins used Niles Paul very conservatively last year. He did a great deal of blocking even lining up at WR. If he does develop into a game breaking TE or even effective in the passing game, then it would be proven that moving him to TE was a good and right move. Until he packs on more muscle, Paul isn't going to be able to perpetually block DEs or OLBs. He should be primarily used in the passing game.

los panda 06-01-2012 02:11 AM

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[quote=InsaneBoost;919459][IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8009/7312351910_06fbe5e4db_z.jpg[/IMG][/quote]looks like griff's sleeve rubbed off on bb

NYCskinfan82 06-01-2012 07:19 AM

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[quote=los panda;919467]looks like griff's sleeve rubbed off on bb[/quote]

Please do remember bb is our option/wildcat QB.

MTK 06-01-2012 08:19 AM

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/redskins-confidential/2012/05/rg3-report/677031]RG3 report | Washington Examiner[/url]

NC_Skins 06-01-2012 08:33 AM

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Thanks for posting the pictures insaneboost!

Chico23231 06-01-2012 08:41 AM

Re: Redskins OTAs
 
I know Cooley looked bad early in OTAs, but dont expect him to go quietly. This guy is gonna fight for his spot.

artmonkforhallofamein07 06-01-2012 09:28 AM

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Nice pics boost. Thanks!

NYCskinfan82 06-01-2012 09:51 AM

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Thanks Boost good stuff.


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