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[quote=Chico23231;1082949]Like ss said in the preseason, we have 2 young good qb. You don't have to chose, just support ur team.[/quote]

I wore my Griffin jersey to work the day of one of the preseason games and someone in the elevator looked at me and goes: "I hate to say it, but I think Cousins is better"

And I looked at him and I said "I don't care who they put out there, I want a team that wins football games"

When everyone in the stadium figured out Griffin was hurt (it took a minute...) it sucked all the energy out of the stadium.

When Cousins threw that pass to DY - it was back.

Sucks for Griffin. I think he has the potential to be an elite quarterback. But he's not going to be the field for a while, if at all the rest of the season. If you must tear one of them down in an effort to defend the other, save it for the offseason when it matters.

Even Griffin gets it. Why can't the fans?

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[quote=Defensewins;1082948]I agree Cousins is no sure thing. He will have some bad days. All Qb's do. But Cousins is no waiver wire pick up either. The guy has some skills. If we do not re-sign him after next season he will be in the NFL.[/quote]

If Cousins plays well and get us a winning record/playoffs appearance, no doubt we have to keep him.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1082950]More positives to come:

Meriweather returning next week (See ya Rambo)
Philip Thomas, Reed and Djax will be back when they are healthy (2-3 weeks)[/quote]

Isn't Phillip Thomas on the practice squad? I don't expect anything out of him, AFAIC he's unproven.

And now that the qb debate will be raging for the rest of the season, let me start by asking are we prepared to move on from RG3 if KC looks good/great for the rest of the year? No doubt if we are winning games it will be a lot easier for people to move on from RG3. But what if he plays average? Do you bring RG3 back as the starter next year? Only situation where I see RG3 coming back as the starter next year is if KC plays himself out of starting consideration this year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1082950]More positives to come:

Meriweather returning next week (See ya Rambo)
Philip Thomas, Reed and Djax will be back when they are healthy (2-3 weeks)[/quote]

Phillip Thomas intrigues me, sort of like Silas Redd, Niles Paul and Cousins did before today. If this guy can stay healthy for a while, I think he could be a starter and a decent one.
Silas Redd was standing right next to Alfred Morris on the sideline today after Morris' TD, twins. They are built exactly the same. Redd runs with the same type of strength and determination as well. I hope he continues to develop. Redd needs to see some more carries.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1082950]More positives to come:

Meriweather returning next week (See ya Rambo)
Philip Thomas, Reed and Djax will be back when they are healthy (2-3 weeks)[/quote]

Trenton Robinson looked good today...

I know it was just the jaguars, but Meriweather is a scum bag and always a hit away from being suspended again. Why do we continue to pay this guy and give him the starting reps? Let someone else get better and become an actual option for us at safety...

Rambo sucks. I called that shit last preseason. He's just too dumb to play at this level.

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[quote=mooby;1082957]Isn't Phillip Thomas on the practice squad? I don't expect anything out of him, AFAIC he's unproven.

And now that the qb debate will be raging for the rest of the season, let me start by asking are we prepared to move on from RG3 if KC looks good/great for the rest of the year? No doubt if we are winning games it will be a lot easier for people to move on from RG3. But what if he plays average? Do you bring RG3 back as the starter next year? Only situation where I see RG3 coming back as the starter next year is if KC plays himself out of starting consideration this year.[/quote]

He is in the PS, if his foot heals soon I read somewhere that he will be activated to the roster.

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Separate question, anyone surprised that the Jags didn't put in Bortles? If they knew our history against backups they would have found any excuse to put him in!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1082907]Kerrigan has 4 sacks.[/quote]

See I would never know that because [B][COLOR="Red"]ESPN![/COLOR][/B] won't put sack numbers in one of those 3 boxes at that top of a players profile!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082961]Separate question, anyone surprised that the Jags didn't put in Bortles? If they knew our history against backups they would have found any excuse to put him in![/quote]

I don't think they want to ruin him behind that OL.

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[quote=Mattyk;1082963]I don't think they want to ruin him behind that OL.[/quote]

That is what I am thinking. Plus they aren't exactly stocked with offensive weapons.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1082963]I don't think they want to ruin him behind that OL.[/QUOTE]
Good point.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082961]Separate question, anyone surprised that the Jags didn't put in Bortles? If they knew our history against backups they would have found any excuse to put him in![/quote]

Even the commentators during the game said that it made no sense to put Bortles.

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I have been firmly in the RG3 camp since the 2 were drafted, because he's talented and showed us so his rookie year, he seems like a good leader, we gave up a lot for him, and well he was our starting QB.

From day 1 though, with RG3, I held my breath on every play. And to be honest with myself, I have never seen a high profile player on this team EVER that was as fragile.

Maybe it is psychological because Cousins came at less of a price, but today I felt confident. I wasn't bracing for the hit every play. HE didn't seem to be either. He stood tall and confident, he made his reads, and delivered the ball quickly, accurately, and on time.

I think we all knew that he was the better pocket passer at this point, and surprise surprise it was Griffin going back to his run-first style that led to his injury (freak and flukey as it may have been) rather than sticking to their guns and developing him as a pocket passer.

Griffins young, and he has talent, so I don't want to count him out yet, but if Cousins keeps putting up the numbers he did today, I'm ready move on. Not that I have to be in the camp of 1 player or another, but we all know there is no room for 2 starting QBs on any team, and I just want to win.

I felt sick for Robert (I like him, he has good character), but then I finally exhaled and enjoyed good football without high blood pressure for the first time since these two were drafted, and I could totally get used to that.

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[quote=WillH;1082971]I have been firmly in the RG3 camp since the 2 were drafted, because he's talented and showed us so his rookie year, he seems like a good leader, we gave up a lot for him, and well he was our starting QB.

From day 1 though, with RG3, I held my breath on every play. And to be honest with myself, I have never seen a high profile player on this team EVER that was as fragile.

Maybe it is psychological because Cousins came at less of a price, but today I felt confident. I wasn't bracing for the hit every play. HE didn't seem to be either. He stood tall and confident, he made his reads, and delivered the ball quickly, accurately, and on time.

I think we all knew that he was the better pocket passer at this point, and surprise surprise it was Griffin going back to his run-first style that led to his injury (freak and flukey as it may have been) rather than sticking to their guns and developing him as a pocket passer.

Griffins young, and he has talent, so I don't want to count him out yet, but if Cousins keeps putting up the numbers he did today, I'm ready move on. Not that I have to be in the camp of 1 player or another, but we all know there is no room for 2 starting QBs on any team, and I just want to win.

I felt sick for Robert (I like him, he has good character), but then I finally exhaled and enjoyed good football without high blood pressure for the first time since these two were drafted, and I could totally get used to that.[/quote]

The problem with RGIII is that he is very competitive and plays with a reckless style, he didn't play in a pro style offense in college and for him playing in the pocket is a learning process. Today he reverted to his reckless style of play and got hurt.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1082975]The problem with RGIII is that he is very competitive and plays with a reckless style, he didn't play in a pro style offense in college and for him playing in the pocket is a learning process. Today he reverted to his reckless style of play and got hurt.[/quote]

I don't know if I called that super reckless...he landed on his foot in an odd way. If he lands okay, he probably doesn't get injured. But oh well.