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MTK 11-16-2017 01:36 PM

Re: Post game and what needs to be done going forward.
 
What does Jay have to do with Doctson tripping on our shitty turf??

Meks 11-16-2017 03:13 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1179867]Kirk won't sit even if we didn't win another game. [B]He's not the problem at all[/B]. In fact he's had a good year once again.

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cant say i agree with the bolded portion of this statement.... at all.

skinsfaninok 11-16-2017 03:22 PM

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[QUOTE=Meks;1179922]cant say i agree with the bolded portion of this statement.... at all.[/QUOTE]U think any other QB not named Brady or rodgers could make us better? Kirk isn't elite but the guy has had no help at all at WR this yr

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Meks 11-16-2017 03:30 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1179923]U think any other QB not named Brady or rodgers could make us better? Kirk isn't elite but the guy has had no help at all at WR this yr

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i agree, he isnt elite, but i have plenty of concerns with some of the picks he throws and his decisions, his mobility in the pocket, his field vision, his pre snap recognition and ability to audible (whether thats on him or jay), his deep ball, his overall accuracy ... kirk is a mid tier qb imo and i am slowly falling off the bandwagon.... while i do agree he hasnt had much help at all this year from the line at times and from the WRs as well... every game i continue to lose faith and i know.... that he is not worth the money projected and it seems he wants, i cant see paying him like a stafford, when the fact is hes just not as good.... so its less that i think he IS the problem, but i cant agree that he ISNT part of or A problem on his own.

mooby 11-16-2017 03:58 PM

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[quote=Meks;1179925]i agree, he isnt elite, but i have plenty of concerns with some of the picks he throws and his decisions, his mobility in the pocket, his field vision, his pre snap recognition and ability to audible (whether thats on him or jay), his deep ball, his overall accuracy ... kirk is a mid tier qb imo and i am slowly falling off the bandwagon.... while i do agree he hasnt had much help at all this year from the line at times and from the WRs as well... every game i continue to lose faith and i know.... that he is not worth the money projected and it seems he wants, i cant see paying him like a stafford, when the fact is hes just not as good.... so its less that i think he IS the problem, but i cant agree that he ISNT part of or A problem on his own.[/quote]

Every fanbase has a problem with almost every pick a qb throws. You think Rodgers or Brady don't make a boneheaded play from time to time? You might be able to convince me Brady never makes a single mistake on 99% of plays, but he's also the GOAT. Cousins is never gonna be in GOAT territory, but he's definitely in the "take us deep in the playoffs with a good team around him" territory. Hard to find those guys nowadays.

Meks 11-16-2017 05:40 PM

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[quote=mooby;1179926]Every fanbase has a problem with almost every pick a qb throws. You think Rodgers or Brady don't make a boneheaded play from time to time? You might be able to convince me Brady never makes a single mistake on 99% of plays, but he's also the GOAT. Cousins is never gonna be in GOAT territory, but he's definitely in the "take us deep in the playoffs with a good team around him" territory. Hard to find those guys nowadays.[/quote]

its possible, but its the timing of some of the picks, and i think im still hurting from last years debacle againt the giants in week 17 - i realize its not all him... and that comeback vs tampa ( but it was tampa ) still sticks with me as well. Trust me man, I wanna Like That! ... im just not as sure as I used to be that i in fact, do.

MTK 11-16-2017 07:21 PM

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Lets roll with Colt McCoy. I can’t wait to get back to the type of QB production we know and love around here.

skinsfaninok 11-16-2017 09:06 PM

Re: Post game and what needs to be done going forward.
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1179937]Lets roll with Colt McCoy. I can’t wait to get back to the type of QB production we know and love around here.[/QUOTE]I hope we don't get back to that lol

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Meks 11-16-2017 09:22 PM

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Also have never backed McCoy and dont want to see him hit the field lol.

Meks 11-16-2017 09:33 PM

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Lol lets not get dramatic here, my point is my confidence in kirk is fading, and i have fallen off the break the bank for him bandwagon. I hope he proves me wrong.

mooby 11-16-2017 10:02 PM

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[quote=Meks;1179943]Lol lets not get dramatic here, my point is my confidence in kirk is fading, and i have fallen off the break the bank for him bandwagon. I hope he proves me wrong.[/quote]

Lol 2 weeks ago he led a comeback, game winning td drive in 30 seconds in Seattle of all places, but your confidence is fading because he couldn't put more than 30 against Minny? Bro.

MTK 11-17-2017 07:11 AM

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He’s doing it with injuries all around him. If you’re losing faith I’ve gotta wonder what you’re watching

Schneed10 11-17-2017 08:53 AM

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We're injured out the ying yang and our schedule has been brutal. But ultimately the bottom line is we don't do well against teams with good records. It's true this year and it has been true the last couple under Gruden, too.

I'm at least a little concerned that he's a little Norv-like. Good enough to get us to 9-7, not able to get us over the hump.

We're going to face good teams every year. We're going to experience injuries every year. Can he still find a way to win enough? You have to at least question it.

MTK 11-17-2017 08:54 AM

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[url]http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/34374/redskins-need-kirk-cousins-to-be-great-but-thats-their-problem[/url]

Schneed10 11-17-2017 09:11 AM

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[quote=MTK;1179955][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/34374/redskins-need-kirk-cousins-to-be-great-but-thats-their-problem]Redskins need Kirk Cousins to be great, but that's their problem - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

It's a well-thought-out analysis.

It basically highlights the difference between the Saints last year and the Saints this year. What's the difference? It's not Brees playing better - it's the run game and it's the defense. They've improved drastically.

So I have to ask the question: why does our running game still suck? And why is our defense still inconsistent?

It naturally leads to questions about our coaching. Manusky's been better than Barry. And we've been hurt a lot. But is 'better than Barry' the right bar? I'm left with the question as to whether Manusky is good enough, or is he just average?

And we've got Bill Callahan as our offensive line coach. He's great, no question about that. But why does our running game still suck?

I don't have too many questions about Cousins. I definitely have questions about Jay Gruden.


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