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BaltimoreSkins 12-20-2022 08:36 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1333083]He's an idiot if he thinks it will be different with Wentz in there. He probably would have been sacked 9 times against the Giants.[/quote]

I know you are a big Howell advocate so I'd like your take. My take with Howell is if he isn't being considered to start it is because he hasn't shown he has what it takes in practice. There is a gap either in running the offense or playbook understanding that we are not privy to knowing. The other option is that the coaching staff is stubbornly plugging along with square pegs in round holes.

EdmundDorf 12-20-2022 08:55 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1333090]I know you are a big Howell advocate so I'd like your take. My take with Howell is if he isn't being considered to start it is because he hasn't shown he has what it takes in practice. There is a gap either in running the offense or playbook understanding that we are not privy to knowing. The other option is that the coaching staff is stubbornly plugging along with square pegs in round holes.[/quote]

I wouldn't rule out the latter option. Though it feels like it would be more accurately stated as "square heads in butt holes". Am I sounding disenchanted?..... first bids for the team due Friday apparently.

Redskins247 12-20-2022 08:58 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
Rivera is not going to play Howell in the middle of a playoff run...period. Maybe against SF, which I think they have no chance of winning, they bring in Wentz on some first down plays...let him hand off a few times, and throw it a few times taking some big shots...on first downs SF won't know if they're running or passing, could be a good curveball. They need to pull out all the tricks for this one. If Wentz hits a few big pass plays, could be the difference.

Ruhskins 12-20-2022 09:03 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
I really don't see what TH is doing that is very different from Wentz. He's not using his legs to buy time or to scramble for yards, he's getting sacked a lot, and he's throwing deep passes he can't make.

IF we go to Wentz, they need to commit to the run, play the short/intermediate passing game, and take some deep shots once you've established the run.

B. Rob was averaging 7 yards per run vs. the Giants and he ran the ball 12 times. That is RIDICULOUS and the coaching staff needs to be accountable for not playing to their strengths. B. Rob needs to have at least 20 runs per game. No QB is going to be successful if this stupid coaching staff doesn't run the ball.

BaltimoreSkins 12-20-2022 09:48 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
Taylor getting some love at Caps game last night while he chugs water and crushes can against head.

[url]https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/1605031408590000128?s=20&t=sud4R-_XaA07maE8WJxRrw[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 12-20-2022 09:52 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1333105]Taylor getting some love at Caps game last night while he chugs water and crushes can against head.

[url]https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/1605031408590000128?s=20&t=sud4R-_XaA07maE8WJxRrw[/url][/quote]

Can-crushing is for winners.

mredskins 12-20-2022 09:57 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1333105]Taylor getting some love at Caps game last night while he chugs water and crushes can against head.

[url]https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/1605031408590000128?s=20&t=sud4R-_XaA07maE8WJxRrw[/url][/quote]

Awesome guy is so awesome. He is your QB1 if you like losing football.

mredskins 12-20-2022 09:59 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1333101]I really don't see what TH is doing that is very different from Wentz. He's not using his legs to buy time or to scramble for yards, he's getting sacked a lot, and he's throwing deep passes he can't make.

IF we go to Wentz, they need to commit to the run, play the short/intermediate passing game, and take some deep shots once you've established the run.

B. Rob was averaging 7 yards per run vs. the Giants and he ran the ball 12 times. That is RIDICULOUS and the coaching staff needs to be accountable for not playing to their strengths. B. Rob needs to have at least 20 runs per game. No QB is going to be successful if this stupid coaching staff doesn't run the ball.[/quote]

Agree and Wentz didn't have B Rob when he was starting, i swear opposing D coordinators are like yes they are going TH for our game no need to game plan for the long ball.

Chico23231 12-20-2022 09:59 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
Wrong thread

SunnySide 12-20-2022 10:33 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sB3XXtAMiw[/url]

Craig Hoffman and Logan Paulsen instant reaction podcast to SNF loss.

Started by saying we ran a lot of duo run plays to start game.

[url]https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/05/10/duo-concept/[/url]

^^ breaks down what a duo run play is, seems to be our meat and butter. Run a counter off it.

Last night I heard Rons presser and he said our offensive identify is running the ball and play action. My instant reaction was .. wtf, we dont call PA passes?!? We should, run game should be happily married to the PA. We called one Sunday night and it was flea flicker variety.

4 min in Logan is saying we are back to this "off set run token fake" play action which doesnt work

sdskinsfan2001 12-20-2022 10:46 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=SunnySide;1333117][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sB3XXtAMiw[/url]

Craig Hoffman and Logan Paulsen instant reaction podcast to SNF loss.

Started by saying we ran a lot of duo run plays to start game.

[url]https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/05/10/duo-concept/[/url]

^^ breaks down what a duo run play is, seems to be our meat and butter. Run a counter off it.

Last night I heard Rons presser and he said our offensive identify is running the ball and play action. My instant reaction was .. wtf, we dont call PA passes?!? We should, run game should be happily married to the PA. We called one Sunday night and it was flea flicker variety.

4 min in Logan is saying we are back to this "off set run token fake" play action which doesnt work[/quote]

I wasn't even familiar with the term "duo run play" until yesterday.

[url]https://coachtube.com/football/articles/the-misunderstood-yet-powerful-run-scheme---duo[/url]

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MTK 12-20-2022 10:52 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
Jay Gruden loved him some duo

sdskinsfan2001 12-20-2022 10:54 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1333125]Jay Gruden loved him some duo[/quote]

I need to read the updated "The Running Game for Dummies".

EdmundDorf 12-20-2022 10:57 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
Also being discussed on twitter

John Keim on Twitter

In the last 3 games, Brian Robinson has rushed for a combined 290 yards (9th in nfl) and averaged 5.69 yards per carry (10th). Has 1 carry for 2 yards in red zone (TD run nullified by the McLaurin penalty). Wash has thrown 13 RZ passes (+ 1 scramble) to 5 runs in this stretch.

Ruhskins 12-20-2022 11:40 AM

Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1333129]Also being discussed on twitter

John Keim on Twitter

In the last 3 games, Brian Robinson has rushed for a combined 290 yards (9th in nfl) and averaged 5.69 yards per carry (10th). Has 1 carry for 2 yards in red zone (TD run nullified by the McLaurin penalty). [B]Wash has thrown 13 RZ passes (+ 1 scramble) to 5 runs in this stretch.[/B][/quote]

This is f*cking ridiculous.


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