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sdskinsfan2001 06-30-2018 01:43 AM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
Rypien to Monk, Clark, and Sanders. So special.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/mark-rypien-just-wants-redskins-quarterback-beat-dallas[/url]

DYoungJelly 06-30-2018 06:37 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[url]https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/quarterbacks-and-pressure-2017[/url]

Kirk's DVOA ranked 13th without pressure and 18th with.

Alex's ranked 6th without pressure and 6th with pressure.

Interesting read, not sure what to read into it if anything but I definitely like it. (and it is certainly no less poignant than a Spaight pff stat.)

skinsfaninok 07-11-2018 09:44 PM

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I was bored and wanted to create a slide so here u go [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180712/f314b6ce1b534186e1f17c502af9371e.jpg[/IMG]

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CRedskinsRule 08-01-2018 01:26 PM

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Hadn't seen this quote from AS about what he said to his agent, but I love it:

[QUOTE]“It’s a [expletive]-ton of money, man,” Smith says now, with a chuckle. “Haggling over $2 million more or something? Nah. I’ve played a long time. Let’s get fair market value and let’s go. Get it done.”[/QUOTE]

skinsfan69 08-01-2018 01:42 PM

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I just want the Alex Smith of last year, not the one that didn't throw a td to a wr for an entire season.

CRedskinsRule 08-01-2018 02:12 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1197178]I just want the Alex Smith of last year, not the one that didn't throw a td to a wr for an entire season.[/quote]

Pretty sure AS and Gruden are gonna get the ball to whoever is healthy enough to catch it.

Meks 08-01-2018 02:18 PM

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[quote=kcvisitor;1196043][b]alex smith often doesnt [/b].... Let plays develop. He is quick to get the ball out to the short man. He comes off of his progressions way too fast, and often moves off of his primary or initial secondary target right before that player breaks open. Its maddening.

Regardless, year after year, alex is below average at 3rd down conversion rate relative to his peers.

High completion percentage. High passer rating. Low conversion percentage. Unfortunately, the conversion rate is the important part, and alex has never been good at that.[/quote]

[rockvoice] IT DOESN'T MATTER, what he doesn't [/rockvoice]

kcVisitor 08-06-2018 09:08 PM

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[quote=Meks;1197182][rockvoice] IT DOESN'T MATTER, what he doesn't [/rockvoice][/quote]

Unfortunately, what he doesnt often overshadows what he does. Which is why two teams moved on from him in the middle of playoff runs.

OmahaRedskins 08-06-2018 09:20 PM

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[quote=kcVisitor;1197362]Unfortunately, what he doesnt often overshadows what he does. Which is why two teams moved on from him in the middle of playoff runs.[/quote]

Wait until Mahomes is out of the NFL in 4 years and Smith is still playing.

skinsfaninok 08-07-2018 08:27 AM

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1197363]Wait until Mahomes is out of the NFL in 4 years and Smith is still playing.[/quote]

I think Mahomes is the real deal, kid has all the tools to be a good QB. That being said Alex is still in his prime and will be very good for another 3-4 years. SF moved on from him because they thought they hit the jackpot with CK, believe me they regretted it before landing JG.

MTK 08-07-2018 09:31 AM

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[quote=kcVisitor;1197362]Unfortunately, what he doesnt often overshadows what he does. Which is why two teams moved on from him in the middle of playoff runs.[/quote]

Thanks for your initial input but really, why are you still hanging around?

kcVisitor 08-07-2018 07:52 PM

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[quote=MTK;1197377]Thanks for your initial input but really, why are you still hanging around?[/quote]

I mean, if you guys dont want me to come around, I wont. But I have always hated every team in your division aside from you guys, and do have an interest in your team now.

But I will gracefully bow out of this thread if you guys dont want another perspective.

MTK 08-07-2018 07:59 PM

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[QUOTE=kcVisitor;1197408]I mean, if you guys dont want me to come around, I wont. But I have always hated every team in your division aside from you guys, and do have an interest in your team now.



But I will gracefully bow out of this thread if you guys dont want another perspective.[/QUOTE]


Just saying if all you’re going to do is point out the flaws in Smith what’s the point? We get it, he’s not Aaron Rodgers.

skinsfaninok 08-07-2018 09:38 PM

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Yeah seems like u are bitter towards AS

calia 08-07-2018 09:45 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197409]Just saying if all you’re going to do is point out the flaws in Smith what’s the point? We get it, he’s not Aaron Rodgers.[/QUOTE]



He looks a little like Aaron Rodgers though. Anyone else see it?


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sdskinsfan2001 08-28-2018 11:33 PM

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There's just something about about Alex Smith that makes you want to pull for the guy. I think we're in good hands the next few seaaons.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000951922/article/alex-smith-wants-to-show-washington-redskins-what-he-can-do[/url]

KI Skins Fan 08-29-2018 05:48 AM

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[quote=calia;1197412]He looks a little like Aaron Rodgers though. Anyone else see it?


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I can't squint hard enough to see that. He looks like himself to me and I'm fine with that. I think he'll do very well here.

skinsfaninok 08-29-2018 08:25 AM

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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/kirk-cousins-left-90-million-guaranteed-jets-table-accept-vikings-offer-220129583.html[/url]

"I would have taken 1 year deals if not getting what we wanted"

Defensewins 08-29-2018 07:38 PM

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Cousins took less money to be on a Super Bowl contender rather than a terrible Jets team. Makes sense to me

JPPT1974 08-30-2018 01:37 AM

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Yeah it does make sense to Kirk Cousins. As really Jets has a rookie under center. May had if Teddy was under center for Jets, they would had Sam learning.

NorCall11 11-12-2018 02:09 PM

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how about axle smiff and the first place skins! HTTR

httr198020 11-12-2018 05:14 PM

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[quote=NorCall11;1207013]how about axle smiff and the first place skins! HTTR[/quote]

We're in first place, but it's not because of Alex Smith. The dude is 29th in passing yards per game. He's tied for 25th in td passes. This man is HORRIBLE! We need bench him before it is too late.

Meks 11-12-2018 06:02 PM

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[quote=httr198020;1207041]We're in first place, but it's not because of Alex Smith. The dude is 29th in passing yards per game. He's tied for 25th in td passes. This man is HORRIBLE! We need bench him before it is too late.[/quote]

look he may suck hair meatballs right now but he's not turning it over and we are getting wins, which is what we will settle for and should be content... not overly happy or excited obviously, but content with 6-3? yes.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2018 02:37 PM

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Alex was pretty good against TB. His TD pass was as good as it gets back there. Missed a couple deep balls but overall I'd say a B-

Chico23231 11-13-2018 03:29 PM

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I found this interesting...I start to look at the CBS Mock Drafts around this time to get familiar with the prospects. For the first time, I saw they has the kid from WV, Grier as our pick late teens first round.

I wouldn't be opposed to getting a young QB in now to learn under Smith. Make sense to me. I don't know if I want to spend a first though...thoughts?

Chico23231 11-13-2018 03:30 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207139]Alex was pretty good against TB. His TD pass was as good as it gets back there. Missed a couple deep balls but overall I'd say a B-[/quote]

the Doctson TD throw.........he had all day to effing throw the ball. That really stood out to me.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2018 03:52 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1207157]the Doctson TD throw.........he had all day to effing throw the ball. That really stood out to me.[/quote]

Yea he did but the window he fit that in is incredible

skinsfaninok 11-13-2018 03:54 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[quote=Chico23231;1207155]I found this interesting...I start to look at the CBS Mock Drafts around this time to get familiar with the prospects. For the first time, I saw they has the kid from WV, Grier as our pick late teens first round.

I wouldn't be opposed to getting a young QB in now to learn under Smith. Make sense to me. I don't know if I want to spend a first though...thoughts?[/quote]

He's pretty good, reminds me a little of Mayfield. But taller. He prob wont last that long since we are going to have the 32nd pick

Back2RFK 11-13-2018 04:50 PM

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I can't tell if Smith is that bad or our WR's just don't create any space.

5superbowls3wins 11-13-2018 05:01 PM

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I keep saying it, but seriously...why not give McCoy a shot? He knows the offense better than anyone, and he can’t be any worse than Smith. He also plays with a LOT of energy. Smith looks like a falling asleep idiot out there.

He might allow Gruden to open it up.


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MTK 11-13-2018 05:52 PM

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A QB change at 6-3 sounds brilliant

No potential for disaster there

Alex is our QB folks, time to accept that we’re not a high flying passing offense right now

skinsfan69 11-13-2018 06:03 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[quote=Chico23231;1207155]I found this interesting...I start to look at the CBS Mock Drafts around this time to get familiar with the prospects. For the first time, I saw they has the kid from WV, Grier as our pick late teens first round.

I wouldn't be opposed to getting a young QB in now to learn under Smith. Make sense to me. I don't know if I want to spend a first though...thoughts?[/quote]

No way does Grier make it past the Giants. Sucks too cause he is exactly what we need.

BaltimoreSkins 11-13-2018 06:08 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207158]Yea he did but the window he fit that in is incredible[/quote]

meh didn't think the window was that tight. I was more impressed with how he bought time by moving and went through progressions. That is something that he does far better than we've had or would have with McCoy for those calling for him.

BaltimoreSkins 11-13-2018 06:09 PM

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[quote=MTK;1207166]A QB change at 6-3 sounds brilliant

No potential for disaster there

Alex is our QB folks, time to accept that we’re not a high flying passing offense right now[/quote]

The ineptitude of management is no match for a fan base.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2018 06:27 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1207168]meh didn't think the window was that tight. I was more impressed with how he bought time by moving and went through progressions. That is something that he does far better than we've had or would have with McCoy for those calling for him.[/QUOTE]True, Kirk would have thrown it away after his 2nd read. They are not the same QBs, Kirk is a better passer but I still say Alex is a better decision maker.

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5superbowls3wins 11-13-2018 06:28 PM

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1207169]The ineptitude of management is no match for a fan base.[/QUOTE]



Yeah...like letting Cousins and McVay walk. We NEVER had a problem putting up yards and points on offense, it was always the defense the that was the problem. Now we have a really good defense and an idiot at QB with a coach who’s once high flying offense is now dumpster juice


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5superbowls3wins 11-13-2018 06:31 PM

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Let me be CLEAR here. Smith BLOWS really bad. We could have saved the money and given McCoy a chance. (A guy who knows the offense better than anyone and plays with energy).

Instead we spent a draft pick, Fuller and how much on this idiot!!!??


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MTK 11-13-2018 06:45 PM

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No need to disrespect the guy by calling him names. Let’s grow up.

5superbowls3wins 11-13-2018 06:55 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1207176]No need to disrespect the guy by calling him names. Let’s grow up.[/QUOTE]



So I’m the first one to call Smith a name here!? This is a forum, and he could care less. I’m not saying it to his face. Come on.


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MTK 11-13-2018 06:57 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1207177]So I’m the first one to call Smith a name here!? This is a forum, and he could care less. I’m not saying it to his face. Come on.


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Talk about his play all you want but calling him an idiot is just lame and unnecessary


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