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[quote=skinsfan69;1243198]I agree with overpaying in free agency. But the positions that I feel you do not overpay for in FA are RB, WR, safety and TE.

TE's are one of the more easier positions to get w/out paying a lot for. There are so many of them in the league right now and a lot are drafted in the 3rd round on. It's a position I feel you go get in the 3rd to 5th rounds. That is why I feel there is no need to overpay for players like Hopoer or Ebron. You can probably get their production in the draft and have them for 4 years paying cheap costs.

I would most certainly overpay for a RT cause I can't take another year of Moses shitting all over himself. I would overpay to resign Scherff. If RR chooses to keep Trent for a couple more years then overpay him.[/quote]

I disagree right now with waiting til 3-5 round of the draft and then reaching for TE if it doesn’t fall your way. Like Keim started last year, we had TE lined up in the draft but prospects didn’t fall to them and they didn’t reach...so we can’t come away with nothing again. You can’t control the draft...you can control who you engage in free agency to get better.

There is no way I’m thinking about Moses with a developing Christian behind him and much bigger decisions right now with Trent, Schreff and flowers.

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I think Christian will never amount to much. I’m an optimistic that Martin will move up to
the OL this season.


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[QUOTE=Warthog;1243247]I think Christian will never amount to much. I’m an optimistic that Martin will move up to
the OL this season.


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Christian is too weak. He isn't strong enough to play at the NFL level.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1243259][QUOTE=Warthog;1243247]I think Christian will never amount to much. I’m an optimistic that Martin will move up to
the OL this season.


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Christian is too weak. He isn't strong enough to play at the NFL level.[/quote]

It’s a make or break for both Moses and Christian...Moses contract after 2020 becomes much easier to move on from and the new coaching staff will see if Christian’s development has come along well enough to replace Moses.

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After his terrible 2019 season, Moses will have competition this TC, either with a new OT draft pick and/or with a new OL FA and/or Martin, who did well later in the season. He’s just another veteran player with a blotted contract who underplayed with missed blocks and many drive-killing, penalties.

I wonder if Moses will be on the team in the 2020 season. The only reason he may get another season to prove himself is the massive amount of turmoil for the Redskin’s OL. The team needs to re-sign Trent Williams, Scherff, Flowers and maybe Penn, for depth. Martin will move up, perhaps to center. Moses needs to be replaced, but he’s not the biggest hole in the OL.


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[quote=skinsfan69;1243198]I agree with overpaying in free agency. But the positions that I feel you do not overpay for in FA are RB, WR, safety and TE.

TE's are one of the more easier positions to get w/out paying a lot for. There are so many of them in the league right now and a lot are drafted in the 3rd round on. It's a position I feel you go get in the 3rd to 5th rounds. That is why I feel there is no need to overpay for players like Hopoer or Ebron. You can probably get their production in the draft and have them for 4 years paying cheap costs.

I would most certainly overpay for a RT cause I can't take another year of Moses shitting all over himself. I would overpay to resign Scherff. If RR chooses to keep Trent for a couple more years then overpay him.[/quote]

Yeah, they'll end up paying premium dollars to keep Scherff. The good news is that if they dump all the FA that we need to release or trade the team will have some real cap space to get some top FA - around $45 million. I think they'll resign Scherff, Flowers AND Trent Williams. That stabilizes the OL. Although they may give Moses another year, RR has no loyalty to him and I think he will be released or traded. There are some good OT in FA and they will draft for OT or C probably with the third-round pick.

I think the other position where they'll lay out some top dollar will be for TE and/or WR #2. Hooper (TE) will command top money, but he's worth it. Other FA will be for CB and FS.

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RR just gave an interview on NBC talking about Trent. He seemed optimistic and hopeful that Trent would play here this season. A lot will depend on changing his contract to provide more guaranteed money...


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[QUOTE=Warthog;1244109]RR just gave an interview on NBC talking about Trent. He seemed optimistic and hopeful that Trent would play here this season. A lot will depend on changing his contract to provide more guaranteed money...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]The interview sounded like RR had not even spoken with Trent

[Quote]“We’ve got to get Trent in,” Rivera told Larry Michael on Redskins Nation. “We’ve got to sit him down, see where he is, see how he is, health-wise, too. We have not really had the contact we need to have to know.”[/Quote]

I don't really see that as a positive statement.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1244114]The interview sounded like RR had not even spoken with Trent



I don't really see that as a positive statement.

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RR has NOT talked to Trent but he is putting out the positive messages to Trent and to his agent. That’s how it works. You make public messages to let him know they are still interested in him. RR said he was still a Redskin. How is that not positive?

I give it a good chance the Redskins give him a new contract as long as he is healthy. Since he’s had a year to recover, I think he will be in excellent health. He is worth far more to the OL and the team, than the second rounder the ‘skins will get in a trade.




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[QUOTE=Warthog;1244122]RR has NOT talked to Trent but he is putting out the positive messages to Trent and to his agent. That’s how it works. You make public messages to let him know they are still interested in him. RR said he was still a Redskin. How is that not positive?

I give it a good chance the Redskins give him a new contract as long as he is healthy. Since he’s had a year to recover, I think he will be in excellent health. He is worth far more to the OL and the team, than the second rounder the ‘skins will get in a trade.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I think it means reaching out privately has not worked so he is putting out public feelers hoping to bring TW back.

Positive to me would have been, I have met with TW and I know he has some concerns. We are working with him etc etc



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interesting.

I could see either scenario. 1 - this is the first olive branch from RR to Trent to let him the door is open ... or 2 - RR/skins tried to reach out to him already privately but he hasnt responded so now they send a public olive branch to continue effortss.

Personally, I dont see him coming back, not sure if I even want him to and at this point I would take a mid to high 2R if that is all we could get.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1244126]I think it means reaching out privately has not worked so he is putting out public feelers hoping to bring TW back.

Positive to me would have been, I have met with TW and I know he has some concerns. We are working with him etc etc



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What’s said in private will stay there. RR is putting out the public olive branch with the caveat about him being healthy. The next channel will be private. It either works or he will be traded.

If Trent is lured back he will still be the best OL player on the team. He’s not elite anymore but still pretty good. He’s worth far more than a second round pick. Now if Bruce Numbnut had traded Trent for a first rounder, that would be a different story. But he didn’t and having a very good OT with a couple years left in his tank is worth more than a second rounder which is usually a 50-50 gamble.

The Redskins can resign Trent, Scherff and Flowers and stabilize the OL. Martin can move up either to C or to replace Moses. Christian is probably a draft bust. They’ll need to draft for the OL anyway and certainly bring in some UDFA and hope for at least a depth player or a Kyle Smith miracle with a starter from that group. Moses is on the bubble, he had a terrible 2019 but they may keep him and hope he returns to form, to be replaced by a rookie draft or UDFA pick.



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[quote=SunnySide;1244130]interesting.

I could see either scenario. 1 - this is the first olive branch from RR to Trent to let him the door is open ... or 2 - RR/skins tried to reach out to him already privately but he hasnt responded so now they send a public olive branch to continue effortss.

Personally, I dont see him coming back, [B]not sure if I even want him to[/B] and at this point I would take a mid to high 2R if that is all we could get.[/quote]

Can I ask [I]why[/I] you wouldn't want a top 3 left tackle back on your roster?

And if your reasoning has anything to do with "he doesn't want to play here, fine! We don't need that attitude here," please save it. This is 2020 and the skins are in no position to be sitting atop a high horse in terms of culture/morals.

Getting him and Scherff back next season is HUGE for our young quarterback and we should explore all avenues of making that happen, if it's even still possible.

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Remember that while we were all here as fans last year for the Trent/Bruce standoff, the regime Trent had a serious problem with is gone. A new regime is here, one that won't feel emotionally dug in over Trent's holdout last year.

Rivera will reach out, interested in starting completely fresh. Blank slate. His interest will be to let bygones be bygones.

Trent will likely find that refreshing and likely find that his distaste for the organization is gone. But his financial concerns may not have been taken care of. If Trent needs more money this year to come in and play, then Rivera will likely decide whether it's worth it, or he'll trade him this year so he can go someplace and get that big deal.

It will end in a conciliatory fashion, no matter what, because of the new regime. I think Rivera's first preference will be to get him back into the fold and I'm guessing that given the cap space available, they'll find it worthwhile to guarantee some dollars and increase his pay.

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[quote=Schneed10;1244144]Remember that while we were all here as fans last year for the Trent/Bruce standoff, the regime Trent had a serious problem with is gone. A new regime is here, one that won't feel emotionally dug in over Trent's holdout last year.

Rivera will reach out, interested in starting completely fresh. Blank slate. His interest will be to let bygones be bygones.

Trent will likely find that refreshing and likely find that his distaste for the organization is gone. But his financial concerns may not have been taken care of. If Trent needs more money this year to come in and play, then Rivera will likely decide whether it's worth it, or he'll trade him this year so he can go someplace and get that big deal.

It will end in a conciliatory fashion, no matter what, because of the new regime. I think Rivera's first preference will be to get him back into the fold and I'm guessing that given the cap space available, they'll find it worthwhile to guarantee some dollars and increase his pay.[/quote]

This.

My take on the news item is that RR hasn't heard from TW or his agent so he's setting the scene for discussion, confirming nothing is off the table yet. RR doesn't seem the kind of guy to play things out in the media, use them as a tool etc. because that can backfire. I can't remember a holdout in his time with the Panthers so it strikes me that he's simply answered an honest question with an honest answer. It's now up to TW whether he takes that call or indeed makes the call himself.

But I just can't see an outcome where TW thinks he's still slighted because if he doesn't come back he'll want the best deal he can get elsewhere. For that he has to at least appear to be willing to negotiate.

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[quote=sevier2;1244142][B]Can I ask [I]why[/I] you wouldn't want a top 3 left tackle back on your roster?[/B]

And if your reasoning has anything to do with "he doesn't want to play here, fine! We don't need that attitude here," please save it. This is 2020 and the skins are in no position to be sitting atop a high horse in terms of culture/morals.

Getting him and Scherff back next season is HUGE for our young quarterback and we should explore all avenues of making that happen, if it's even still possible.[/quote]


It isn't 2016 any more. PFF ranked Trent 21st at tackle in 2018. He'll be 2 years older in 2020, coming off a season in which he didn't play. I think perhaps you are over-rating him a tad. I'd be fine with him deciding to honor his contract and return, but I won't lose any sleep if he breaks his contract again and we use that money elsewhere - especially if we can get a decent return in a trade. I'm not a fan of offering Williams more money than what he's already agreed to, but I'll trust in RR and accept whatever he decides to do.

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Kind of wonder what will happen now as if Trent were here in 2019 would it make a little difference with the team.

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[quote=Schneed10;1244144]Rivera will reach out, interested in starting completely fresh. Blank slate. His interest will be to let bygones be bygones.

It will end in a conciliatory fashion, no matter what, because of the new regime. I think Rivera's first preference will be to get him back into the fold and I'm guessing that given the cap space available, they'll find it worthwhile to guarantee some dollars and increase his pay.[/quote]

I find myself agreeing with your posts a lot lately. Either your posts have educated me or I don't yet realize that I've had a stroke.

Anyway, I think you're right about the Trent situation. They'll probably put together a nice package of monetary and personal inducements for Trent. Why not guarantee the remainder of his contract in its entirety or rework a symbolic "Redskin for Life" contract? Let him know that he'll be re-named a Team Captain at the appropriate time just by coming back and being the leader he's always been plus, by coming back, he will guarantee himself a place in the Redskins Ring of Honor, and so forth.

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[quote=sevier2;1244142]Can I ask [I]why[/I] you wouldn't want a top 3 left tackle back on your roster?

And if your reasoning has anything to do with "he doesn't want to play here, fine! We don't need that attitude here," please save it. This is 2020 and the skins are in no position to be sitting atop a high horse in terms of culture/morals.

Getting him and Scherff back next season is HUGE for our young quarterback and we should explore all avenues of making that happen, if it's even still possible.[/quote]

I am a big Trent fan, Trent > Bruce, I agree he is a top 3 LT and LT is the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football.

All that said, he will be 32 by the start of next season. 32 year olds in this league worry about 1 thing - how much money do they have guaranteed if he had a career ending injury tomorrow.

I think his hold out was money based. He had very little in guaranteed money in 2019 and 2020. If the Skins had approached him after 2018 and converted 2019 and 2020 to guaranteed, he would not have held out.

But now, he will be 32 and it will likely take an extension with a large amount guaranteed. I dont know about giving him a 5 yr/75M/50M guaranteed contract.

That doesnt get into the fact that Trent is the last remaining dysfunction left over from the Bruce regime.

Id rather trade him a year early vs a year late.

1st Round - I dont see a team offering that bc I think the new team will have to re-sign him for him to show up and play and that decreases his trade value.

2nd Rounder - if you can get it, I say go for it.

If you can get Trent to show up by guaranteeing his remaining contract here - go for it.

I dont have visions of us being upper tier successful the next 2 years. Our window (Haskins based) is 2022 and beyond.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1244185]I find myself agreeing with your posts a lot lately. Either your posts have educated me or I don't yet realize that I've had a stroke.



Anyway, I think you're right about the Trent situation. They'll probably put together a nice package of monetary and personal inducements for Trent. Why not guarantee the remainder of his contract in its entirety or rework a symbolic "Redskin for Life" contract? Let him know that he'll be re-named a Team Captain at the appropriate time just by coming back and being the leader he's always been plus, by coming back, he will guarantee himself a place in the Redskins Ring of Honor, and so forth.[/QUOTE]Just curious, not disagreeing, but how you do that for TW, but then let RK go if they in fact do.

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So does Trent have 2 years left on his contract? Then trade him, you cannot count on him otherwise. A high pick and a mid-round pick would be fair.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1244193]So does Trent have 2 years left on his contract? Then trade him, you cannot count on him otherwise. A high pick and a mid-round pick would be fair.[/quote]

1 i think

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1244191]Just curious, not disagreeing, but how you do that for TW, but then let RK go if they in fact do.

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Business?

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1244193]So does Trent have 2 years left on his contract? Then trade him, you cannot count on him otherwise. A high pick and a mid-round pick would be fair.[/QUOTE]



He has one year left on his contract. He’s not going to bring two draft picks in a trade. Bruce Allen totally mismanaged that trade possibility last year (surprised?) when we might have received a first and another high pick with the Texans.

Right now we would get a second round pick, period. If you resign TW now, it would most likely be a 3 year contract with lots of guaranteed money, which is what he wants. He probably plays for us for two years at a good to very good level. He’s had a year to recover from prior injuries so he should be in great shape for his age. If he’s NOT in great shape, he will not be resigned but traded.

Trent was a team captain. He was the best player on this dysfunctional team for many years. He was well liked by his teammates and coaches. Let’s forget last year and just bring him back to solidify this OL.

The team will draft at least one OT in the draft and multiple picks in UDFA. If the team gets a backup OL player they’ll be happy. If they get a starter, they’ll be very happy. But remember unless the team can resign some players the OL will be a hollow disaster. We’ll need a OG to replace Flowers, Scherff; and an OT to replace Trent/Penn; the Center position is weak; Moses had a terrible year in terms of play and he was a plague with penalties. All we have on the plus side is Martin. Christian is a bust. How is Haskins going to grow with a crappy OL?

Spend the money to resign Trent, as long as he is truly healthy; spend the big bucks to resign Scherff; spend the average money for Flowers; release Penn and Christian and Moses.

Draft an OT in the fourth or fifth round, bring in 3-4 OT in UDFA and hope one is a starters and one a project or backup. Move Martin into C or to replace Moses. Pick up one good OL FA to replace the C or Moses.

This OL is two years from being settled with decent backups. In the 2021 draft I think the team will need to draft high for the OL. Trent is worth the money. Forget this last year, both sides had points.


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1244191]Just curious, not disagreeing, but how you do that for TW, but then let RK go if they in fact do.

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Two different situations. TW made no secret of his disdain for the medical staff. And if the things I have read are true, the medical staff was let go when Rivera was hired. TW under contract for 2 more years. The environment has changed and I think TW comes back.

RK, easy decision. You guys draft Chase Young at #2, it makes RK and that veteran contract expendable.

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Kerrigan isn't going to command that much money and with the D-Line revamped it will take him out of offenses scopes and his numbers will improve. His numbers have dropped but he is still a valuable player and on field leader.

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But an expensive one. If he agrees to a rework of his contract I think he definitely stays, but if not, adios. If he is gone by the draft, no way we don't take CY.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1244193][B]So does Trent have 2 years left on his contract? [/B]Then trade him, you cannot count on him otherwise. A high pick and a mid-round pick would be fair.[/quote]

That's a good question. From what I understood because he was on the "non football injury list" the team could argue that last season shouldn't count as accrued, and the Redskins would have rights on his contract up until the 2021 season... But Williams and the NFLPA could fight that.
So I'm guessing all of that depends on if you wanna bring him back and extend him (in which case it doesn't matter that much), or if you want to trade him (which would only make sense if you did have rights for 2 more seasons).

Does anybody have more info on that matter ?

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[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/redskins/news/trent-williams-firmly-in-the-plans"]Redskins don't intend to trade TW[/URL] per Rapoport. No real news here but it does feel like we could come to a conclusion of this story.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1244247][URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/redskins/news/trent-williams-firmly-in-the-plans"]Redskins don't intend to trade TW[/URL] per Rapoport. No real news here but it does feel like we could come to a conclusion of this story.[/quote]

There's a number of problems with this:

1) Rappaport says the previous regime was intent on trading Trent. That is clearly bull crap. They were intent on keeping him and not paying him.
2) This is exactly what the skins would say if they wanted to trade Trent. Make it seem like we want to keep him to increase leverage in a trade
3) It says nothing of Trent's intentions. Trent did not hold out just because of Bruce Allen and the medical staff. He made the decision before any of that came up when he wanted more money and Bruce said no. Unless the team is willing to give Trent an extension with guaranteed money, there is no reason to think Trent would suddenly want to come and play under his current deal
4) And following the previous point - this is exactly what the team would leak publicly if they wanted to make it clear to Trent they weren't moving him, so he better show up and play.

Basically, this report demonstrates Rappaport doesn't know what he's talking about and is meaningless until we have signs that Trent wants to be here.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1244251]There's a number of problems with this:

1) Rappaport says the previous regime was intent on trading Trent. That is clearly bull crap. They were intent on keeping him and not paying him.
2) This is exactly what the skins would say if they wanted to trade Trent. Make it seem like we want to keep him to increase leverage in a trade
3) It says nothing of Trent's intentions. Trent did not hold out just because of Bruce Allen and the medical staff. He made the decision before any of that came up when he wanted more money and Bruce said no. Unless the team is willing to give Trent an extension with guaranteed money, there is no reason to think Trent would suddenly want to come and play under his current deal
4) And following the previous point - this is exactly what the team would leak publicly if they wanted to make it clear to Trent they weren't moving him, so he better show up and play.

Basically, this report demonstrates Rappaport doesn't know what he's talking about and is meaningless until we have signs that Trent wants to be here.[/quote]

Good points. Honestly part of me has checked out of this story and just wants it [I]solved[/I]...

Apparently [URL="https://art19.com/shows/cooley-and-kevin/episodes/f8e2c7e2-be95-4a09-919e-32595904450b"]Rivera hasn't really talked to Trent yet[/URL] , and I guess anything we hear before that (unless it comes directly from Trent) is kinda irrelevant...

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1244252]Good points. Honestly part of me has checked out of this story and just wants it [I]solved[/I]...

Apparently [URL="https://art19.com/shows/cooley-and-kevin/episodes/f8e2c7e2-be95-4a09-919e-32595904450b"]Rivera hasn't really talked to Trent yet[/URL] , and I guess anything we hear before that (unless it comes directly from Trent) is kinda irrelevant...[/quote]

Exactly, If TW plays the silent game, and the Skins have not talked to him, then we are exactly where we were at the start of training camp last year. I have hope that Rivera will bring a better end to it, but so far we are where we were last year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1244254]Exactly, If TW plays the silent game, and the Skins have not talked to him, then we are exactly where we were at the start of training camp last year. I have hope that Rivera will bring a better end to it, but so far we are where we were last year.[/quote]

This will not drag on. It will be cleaned up by training camp. If he doesn't want to be with the Skins, Ron will move him. It may be for a ham sandwich.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1244257]This will not drag on. It will be cleaned up by training camp. If he doesn't want to be with the Skins, Ron will move him. It may be for a ham sandwich.[/quote]

Cleaned up by training camp? There is no way it takes that long, a decision by the draft must be made. If he leaves they need a 2020 draft pick.

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Guys, Trent has one year left in his contract. He qualified last season for a year on his contract even though he wasn’t paid.

The Redskins, RR and even Gibbs are saying Trent will come back. This is NOT A mixed message. This is NOT a secret plot to get more for him in a trade. NOTHING will get us more than a second rounder - so he’s worth far more to the team then a trade for a draft pick.

Bruce Allen decided to punish Trent for daring to ask for a trade. Other elite players in the NFL asked for the same thing ( to be traded) AND WERE TRADED. But Bruce thought he could force TW to play by penalizing his pay.
AS USUAL, Allen totally mismanaged everything. He enraged Trent enough that he sacrificed $12 mill. Trent could have been traded to the Texans for AT LEAST a first rounder AND more. But Bruce decided to punish the best player on the team and a leader and Captain of the team. Bruce Allen was a complete tool and probably the worst GM in the NFL.

Anyway, the ongoing courtship will move forward rapidly. RR has made the public pronouncements of support for Trent and that he.’s part of the team. Rr wants him back (as long as he is healthy). They’ve just talked to the agent, seeing where Trent is at. They probably also pledged to the agent to get Trent the guaranteed money he wants. Then they’ll talk about the details - 3-5 year contract. The next part is up to Trent. He may be waiting to see what other teams have to offer. The Redskins need Trent more than he needs the team. But this love-in support now hopefully makes him forget Bruce Allen and the medical crew.

BL - everything is going smoothly and I give it an 80% chance he will return to the Redskins. The only issues are if there is something wrong medically (I doubt it) or in the unlikely scenario where Trent continues to insist on a trade. If that happens, he will be traded and we.’ll use the 2nd rounder of the best TE/WR/ OT left in the draft.


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Where did you see that he talked to the agent?

I think you are being overly optimistic, and there is no way to think the Skins are going to offer a 3-5 year contract. If they do, that would be discouraging.

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IMO, the environment at Redskins Park has already dramatically changed for the better since last season, as it relates to Trent's issues with team management and staff. I believe that if RR is determined to have Trent at LT next season then he can and will get it done; therefore, I'm writing Trent's name IN INK on my starting lineup card for Game 1.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1244265]Where did you see that he talked to the agent?



I think you are being overly optimistic, and there is no way to think the Skins are going to offer a 3-5 year contract. If they do, that would be discouraging.[/QUOTE]



The team’s deliberate movement to reach out to Trent’s lawyer came from an article in “Riggin’s Rag”, which posts daily internet articles in the team. I believe this news site has very good connections within the teams leadership. This article was put out two days ago and was called “Teams intent to keep Trent Williams”. I don’t just make up important facts without a source. Almost ALL the internet articles I’ve read in the last week are VERY optimistic about Trent coming back. Gibb’s even made a positive statement about it in an interview for publication. This planned publicity campaign is NOT by accident. It’s a love bomb to Trent from the teams leadership.

The Redskin’s team leadership has totally changed for the better. All the people who Trent called out, are gone. All the comments from various people in the team’s management are VERY positive toward Trent. Reaching out to Trent’s lawyer is the next logical step. RR wants to find out if they can get Trent back within the team’s cap space. Trent wants guaranteed money, so that’s the key point of contention. If the Redskins and Trent’s lawyer can agree to a contract, then it will be up to Trent if he wants to come back. There was a lot of bad blood between Trent and Bruce Allen. I think the team will show that it’s all water under the bridge. I rate the possibility of getting Trent back with a new contract as VERY HIGH, assuming there’s no real health problems. If I am wrong I will eat crow on this thread!! Let.’s see how this issue play’s out.

Why are you discouraged by TW coming back? He is just 32 and totally rested. He will be playing for an excellent HC who is inspirational. The team will be on the ascent. He will still be THE BEST OL player on the team. We need him for 2-3 years as the OL is being rebuilt. Penn was just a bandaid and may retire. Bringing Trent back is a very positive move.



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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

A potentially significant development for the #Redskins: Franchise LT Trent Williams & new coach Ron Rivera have touched base for what sounded like a positive conversation, I’m told. The next step would be for Williams to come in to visit, but the two sides are now communicating.

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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins
 

^^^

Sweet

Now reach out to Dunbar