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rocnrik 12-25-2023 12:00 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
I'm a Maye fan ... also Daniels would be a good pick at around 10-15 spot .. I don't care for Williams .. I would rather fix the Oline and roll with Jacoby than trade up and take Williams .. but it's all a crap shoot

punch it in 12-25-2023 12:09 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1355215]So you're saying we don't beat the Giants with better QB play?

Could have beaten the Rams also and definitely yesterday, I can clock 3 more potential wins[/QUOTE]


Which would have set us back. Teams aren’t preparing for JB. He is not the long term answer. 3 more wins gets us a top 15 pick.

The failure of this season is on Ron and his inability to prepare for games, and the Defense. If our defense was just half decent for the first 11 games maybe things would have been different.

rocnrik 12-25-2023 12:45 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
What is long term ? If Brissett was given fair competition in camp he would have been starter .. He was way more prepared and was under a One year deal .. it would have made so much sense to let him start and see what would have happened.. Sam is allready on the team and if JB struggled THEN go to Sam .. it was ass backwards the way Ron did it .. Sam got the job because of one game against Cowboys ..now we have a chance to keep JB and draft a rookie let the kid learn how the NFL works .. if they throw any of the Rookies out there with this supporting cast it will fail ... I sure hope the next coach can see this .

skinsfaninok 12-25-2023 01:06 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1355214]I think Okie said the same thing u did. Lol[/QUOTE]


I did haha


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sevier2 12-25-2023 01:06 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=rocnrik;1355218]What is long term ? If Brissett was given fair competition in camp he would have been starter .. He was way more prepared and was under a One year deal .. it would have made so much sense to let him start and see what would have happened.. Sam is allready on the team and if JB struggled THEN go to Sam .. it was ass backwards the way Ron did it .. Sam got the job because of one game against Cowboys ..now we have a chance to keep JB and draft a rookie let the kid learn how the NFL works .. if they throw any of the Rookies out there with this supporting cast it will fail ... I sure hope the next coach can see this .[/quote]

Ron went with Sam to try and save his job.

Had the year gone well and Sam flourished Ron could claim it was his staff that drafted and developed him, and then argue that ownership should keep that connection intact.

The wheels fell off with Sam and Ron’s chances of returning collapsed with it.

At this point it doesn’t matter who plays so Ron is trying to save his overall record from dropping below .500

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-25-2023 01:13 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1355217]Which would have set us back. Teams aren’t preparing for JB. He is not the long term answer. 3 more wins gets us a top 15 pick.

The failure of this season is on Ron and his inability to prepare for games, and the Defense. If our defense was just half decent for the first 11 games maybe things would have been different.[/quote]

i never said he was the answer, I am pointing out that with him we'd be fighting for a WC spot, and probably getting it

Meks 12-25-2023 01:28 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1355222]i never said he was the answer, I am pointing out that with him we'd be fighting for a WC spot, and probably getting it[/quote]

The team is a dumpster fire, that's not on Howell, the only thing they'd ever be fighting for this year is a top 5 pick.

Better luck next year.

skinsfaninok 12-25-2023 02:21 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=sevier2;1355221]Ron went with Sam to try and save his job.

Had the year gone well and Sam flourished Ron could claim it was his staff that drafted and developed him, and then argue that ownership should keep that connection intact.

The wheels fell off with Sam and Ron’s chances of returning collapsed with it.

At this point it doesn’t matter who plays so Ron is trying to save his overall record from dropping below .500[/QUOTE]


It don’t matter who starts v SF and Dallas. We ain’t beating either one of them. Dallas could beat us with their backup QB.


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ODUsmitty 12-25-2023 09:54 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Miss Heinicke, yet?

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-25-2023 10:20 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=ODUsmitty;1355250]Miss Heinicke, yet?[/quote]

Nope

skinsfaninok 12-25-2023 11:57 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=ODUsmitty;1355250]Miss Heinicke, yet?[/QUOTE]


No because he would have won us 6 games and had the 12th pick or whatever again..

I’m fine with 4-13


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mooby 12-26-2023 06:06 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1355262]No because he would have won us 6 games and had the 12th pick or whatever again..

I’m fine with 4-13


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Preach.

Howell might not be the answer but Brissett and Heinicke aren't either. This defense has been ass the entire year.

Some of you guys are acting like we're a qb away from contending. We're not. We're a qb, an offensive line and an entire defense.

Chico23231 12-26-2023 08:11 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=mooby;1355271]Preach.

Howell might not be the answer but Brissett and Heinicke aren't either. This defense has been ass the entire year.

Some of you guys are acting like we're a qb away from contending. We're not. We're a qb, an offensive line and an entire defense.[/quote]

Preach

skinsfaninok 12-26-2023 08:36 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1355271]Preach.

Howell might not be the answer but Brissett and Heinicke aren't either. This defense has been ass the entire year.

Some of you guys are acting like we're a qb away from contending. We're not. We're a qb, an offensive line and an entire defense.[/QUOTE]


Jacoby is a good QB but he’s been a journeyman for a reason. Similar to Tyrod and Fitz…

It’s time to draft that face of the franchise QB.


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punch it in 12-26-2023 05:00 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1355222]i never said he was the answer, I am pointing out that with him we'd be fighting for a WC spot, and probably getting it[/QUOTE]


Maybe. Like I said in both games teams game planned for Sam.


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