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The problem with BA playing tough and sending a “message”, is that it hurts the team in 2 ways:

1. The team needs either TW playing at LT or they need a First round draft pick to replace him. Right now the OL is a disaster and barely holding together. Since TW has proved that he will not play here, they need to trade him.

2. What message is BA sending other players on the Redskins, FA and their agents by playing tough with Allen? BA basic message is: “If he won’t play for us, he won’t play anywhere!!” This just confirms what the USA TODAY study on NFL GM’s said last year. Bruce Allen was voted LAST of the NFL’s GM’s for trustworthiness and preparation. Why come to a team where you can’t trust the GM? Why come to a team that would rather hold a petty grudge against a player than do what’s BEST for BOTH sides?

This holdout confirms what the NFL thinks of BA , Snyder and the Redskins franchise. Poorly run, chaotic, untrustworthy and a team that holds personal grudges. Why would a responsible FA come here? why would a homegrown player at the pro bowl level stay here? The answer is - they don’t. Scherff will leave. The only FA players that want to play for the Redskins is doing so in order to CASH IN on their previous playing ability. Most don’t play anywhere near their ability or hype. Mostly because BA and Snyder are poor judges of talent. Also, because this is just a way station in their FA career.

Let TW go while we can still get a very good draft pick for him!


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Didn't want a new thread and I picked his replacement 1st, so figured I would post it here:

3: R1P3 - OT ANDREW THOMAS - GEORGIA
67: R3P3 - TE JARED PINKNEY - VANDERBILT
109: R4P3 - LB JACOB PHILLIPS - LSU
142: R4P36 - OT YASIR DURANT - MISSOURI
149: R5P3 - CB TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME
218: R7P3 - G DONELL STANLEY - SOUTH CAROLINA
219: R7P4 - S BRIAN COLE - MISSISSIPPI STATE

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We could really use a 1st round draft pick for a TW trade..


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1232630]Didn't want a new thread and I picked his replacement 1st, so figured I would post it here:

3: R1P3 - OT ANDREW THOMAS - GEORGIA
67: R3P3 - TE JARED PINKNEY - VANDERBILT
109: R4P3 - LB JACOB PHILLIPS - LSU
142: R4P36 - OT YASIR DURANT - MISSOURI
149: R5P3 - CB TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME
218: R7P3 - G DONELL STANLEY - SOUTH CAROLINA
219: R7P4 - S BRIAN COLE - MISSISSIPPI STATE[/quote]

I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.

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[quote=Warthog;1230906]For all I complain about BA and Snyder, there are stills rays of hope after the upcoming bad season.

1. Gruden and Manusky will be gone. Problem is with Snyder and his lackey, BA - what talented HC candidates would come to this franchise, with it’s meddling and poor leadership and continuing issues of this losing franchise? My guess is they’ll go for an internal candidate like O’Connell and hope he can be another Sean McVay.

2. Haskins will eventually be allowed to play and gain experience. He may be a future franchise QB the fans can get behind.

3. McLaurin and the rest of the young WR’s are the bright spot in the team. If McLaurin stays on track he could be a Rookie-of-the-Year candidate. But he’s going to need help from the other WR’s because teams will just double team him.

4. New HC could mean a cleaning out of the Redskin’s deadwood FA’s. Norman, Richardson and others will be gone, opening up cap room. Unfortunately, most likely, TW and Scherff will be gone too. Although they may franchise tag Scherff.

5. 2020 draft will be heavily concentrated on the OL. Everything else is rubbish. TW, Scherff and thankfully Moses will need to be replaced. If they draft well the team could have a young, solid OL.





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As long as Snyder continues to hire people from GM all the way down to toilet cleaner, whose primary responsibility is to kiss his ass, all we are ever doing is rearranging the furniture on the Titanic.

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232751]I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.[/quote]

I say we get #1 at 1-15. We lose to Miami and then Jay goes home

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232751]I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.[/quote]

Good idea, they will need help almost everywhere. If they cannot get a first for Trent, then take a few high picks.

It is going to be a major rebuilding for a few years. Probably gone Norman, Reed, Davis, Keenum, McCoy, Peterson, Trent, Scherff, Kerrigan and more.

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With Diggs possibly unhappy in Minn. does anyone see a TW for Diggs swap possible?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232792]With Diggs possibly unhappy in Minn. does anyone see a TW for Diggs swap possible?

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I'd be on the phone right now for it

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I will admit I was wrong about Flowers, he's been really good so far... Who would have thought that Flowers would be out playing Scherff?? Unreal

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This was a good read from an agent who dealt with BA in a previous holdout down in TB

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-a-first-hand-look-at-redskins-gm-bruce-allen-handling-a-holdout-as-trent-williams-continues-to-sit/amp/?__twitter_impression=true[/url]

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I wouldn't mind trading down a couple spots but I want Andrew Thomas. I want to continue the stud streak at LT. Especially with young QB. Any other elite LTs out there this year?

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1232792]With Diggs possibly unhappy in Minn. does anyone see a TW for Diggs swap possible?

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According to an article I read in Hogshaven Trent Williams has an estimated wins added of less than 1. I imagine Diggs would be higer than that.

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

The worst part of this ordeal is using another top 5 pick on a LT.
I would be great to use a top 5 pick on another bluechip skill position player like Sean Taylor or Champ Bailey.

Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal
 

If we land where I think we'll land, you take Jeudy (OR Young) and call it a day. I'm fine with taking a later round tackle in a loaded OT draft. I know we're missing that second rounder, and it especially stings since it'll likely be a high pick, but man Jeudy or Young are generational talents.