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[quote=tryfuhl;685940]Yeah and he played in games he could've skipped just as easily. He could be pushing it harder than our guys are now, who knows.[/quote]

"FAT" chance

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Well I'm glad that you guys have such great inside sources.

Re: Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;685432]you do realize that these are voluntary and that if the Skins management team looked like they were forcing AH to be there, they could be fined or have draft picks taken away right? AH has said he's not going to miss any mandatory ones.[/quote]

If you reread my post, I never said anything about attending the voluntary workouts.

I just don't think a (professional) player that makes an obscene amount of money has the right to decline a request to play a position their coach wants them to play. It's not unreasonable for our best defensive lineman to play NT. They're not asking him to play safety or guard. They're asking him move down the line and knuckle up. It's not unreasonable at all.

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[quote=Ruhskins;685434]So you're ok with our coaching staff having players play out of position? :doh:

I thought that ended with Blache retiring.[/quote]

Playing Lorenzo Alexander at OLB is playing a player out of position. Playing AH at NT isn't.

Who should play NT if not AH? Montgomery? The guy looks like he on skates when he plays. Golston? Who?

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;686050]Playing Lorenzo Alexander at OLB is playing a player out of position. Playing AH at NT isn't.

Who should play NT if not AH? Montgomery? The guy looks like he on skates when he plays. Golston? Who?[/quote]


I think the goal is for Kemo to do it but he is still a big ?

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For me it's more about the principle. Maybe I'm old school but I don't believe in pandering to over-paid athletes. Kemo if he ever gets healthy is an ideal NT (i forgot we'd signed him) but like you said, that's a big if.

Re: Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"
 

[quote=DIE-NASTY;686050]Playing Lorenzo Alexander at OLB is playing a player out of position. Playing AH at NT isn't.

Who should play NT if not AH? Montgomery? The guy looks like he on skates when he plays. Golston? Who?[/quote]

Question for you: does Montgomery look like he is on ICE skates or ROLLER skates. Cause that will make a difference in his play. (lol)

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[quote=internetcareer;686066]Question for you: does Montgomery look like he is on[B] ICE skates or ROLLER skates.[/B] Cause that will make a difference in his play. (lol)[/quote]

Not as similar as you might think.

Re: Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"
 

[quote=DIE-NASTY;686048]If you reread my post, I never said anything about attending the voluntary workouts.

I just don't think a (professional) player that makes an obscene amount of money has the right to decline a request to play a position their coach wants them to play. It's not unreasonable for our best defensive lineman to play NT. They're not asking him to play safety or guard. They're asking him move down the line and knuckle up. It's not unreasonable at all.[/quote]
He said he'd play wherever they put him, but of course he'll have a preference.

Re: Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"
 

[quote=DIE-NASTY;686048]If you reread my post, I never said anything about attending the voluntary workouts.

I just don't think a (professional) player that makes an obscene amount of money has the right to decline a request to play a position their coach wants them to play. It's not unreasonable for our best defensive lineman to play NT. They're not asking him to play safety or guard. They're asking him move down the line and knuckle up. It's not unreasonable at all.[/quote]

I did mis-understand your post, I thought you were saying if Shanahan says he wants everyone there, than AH ought to be at the voluntary workouts.

To the other, if your employer tells you to do something you and you think you could do a different task better, are you saying you wouldn't try to discuss it with him. NFL players just have more spotlights, and AH has a ton more. Did AH ever not play a down where Blache told him to play? IF Haslett tells him to play NT, do you think he will simply not go out onto the field? If he's on the team he will do whatever football position is asked of him, will he be the happiest camper probably not, and if it's really out of his comfort zone then I imagine he won't be as good at it, or as motivated. This is no different than any other employee in a business. Shanahan/Haslett will either fit him into the scheme and get him to buy in, or he will be a good player who never lives up to his potential. But he's not going to just walk off the field and pout.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;686050]Playing Lorenzo Alexander at OLB is playing a player out of position. Playing AH at NT isn't.

Who should play NT if not AH? Montgomery? The guy looks like he on skates when he plays. Golston? Who?[/quote]

Kemo was brought in to play NT, and any pundit with half a brain knows that the Redskins need a true 3-4 NT (since basically you depend on Kemo being healthy).

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The Redskins are not trading Hanyesworth unless its for a top 3 draft pick this season. We would have another hole to fill then. We be better off hoping to move Andre Carter and JC and hope to get a least 3rd picks for each. Why do the Redskins every year have limited draft picks. This just doesnt seem to work every year they try this same old crap of giving up draft picks. Maybe Jarmon can start at DE in the 3-4 defense. We look like we just wasted a 3rd pick on him if he can not play in the 3-4 defense.

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Top 3 as in Rams, Lions, or Bucs? Can't see that happening.

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[quote=SmootSmack;686130]Top 3 as in Rams, Lions, or Bucs? Can't see that happening.[/quote]

maybe he means top 3 in the 2nd round? i'd absolutely love to get the lions 2nd round pick. with a whole night to sit on the pick, we'd certainly get all sorts of interesting trade offers. or, if we had the pick, we'd have plenty of time to make sure we were making the best selection.

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[quote=skins89moss;686125]The Redskins are not trading Hanyesworth unless its for a top 3 draft pick this season. We would have another hole to fill then. We be better off hoping to move Andre Carter and JC and hope to get a least 3rd picks for each. Why do the Redskins every year have limited draft picks. This just doesnt seem to work every year they try this same old crap of giving up draft picks. Maybe Jarmon can start at DE in the 3-4 defense. We look like we just wasted a 3rd pick on him if he can not play in the 3-4 defense.[/quote]

What makes you think this? I really am curious why you think our FO would expect that type of compensation. What precedent is there that a team would send a top 3 pick in the first round for a locker room cancer? Granted, Al is talented, arguably the most talented defensive tackle in the league, but he is a huge pain in the ass. I have argued that no team would give us any first round pick for him, let alone a top 3 pick.

I know we fleeced Carolina for Sean Gilbert but the league has changed dramatically since then. If a GM sent us a top 3 pick, they are putting their job on the line for a guy who doesn't give a crap what his coaches want.

For the record, I still want him on the team. I think if you are paying a coach 7.5 million he can figure out a solution with your problem child but I certainly understand where Shanahan is coming from on this.