Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;728725]^ are u kidding? Jackson is a top 5 WR. Do you watch football?[/quote]



Are you serious? I can't tell whether you purposely say silly things or really are silly.

1. Randy Moss
2. Andre Johnson
3. Larry Fitzgerald
4. Chad Johnson
5. Regie Wayne


Hell, I'm not even sure he's better than DeSean Jackson, Hines Ward, Steve Smith or Brandon Marshall. Top 5 my ass.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

^ ocho cinco isn't better than VJ at this point in his career. Jackson is widely regarded as a top 5 WR. Look at his numbers over the past 2 seasons. Andre Johnson, Fitz , Moss , And Marshall I agree with. Then VJ is right behind them

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

Hines Ward? Cmon dude seriously?

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=saden1;728727]Are you serious? I can't tell whether you purposely say silly things or really are silly.

1. Randy Moss
2. Andre Johnson
3. Larry Fitzgerald
4. Chad Johnson
5. Regie Wayne


Hell, I'm not even sure he's better than DeSean Jackson, Hines Ward, Steve Smith or Brandon Marshall. Top 5 my ass.[/quote]

Eh, Chad Johnson shouldn't be on that list. Miles Austin, Sidney Rice when healthy, and Roddy White are all better then Ocho (and VJax) at this point.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

^ Austin and Rice have had one good season. VJ has been really good for 2-3 years now.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

In my opinion, V Jackson is a pure #1 receiver, altho, not in the top 12 in the league. Maybe 12 or 13, but not even top 10.

-Fitz
-Johnson
-Johnson Jr.
-Moss
-Marshall
-Wayne
-White
-Smith
-Welker
-Austin
-Jennings




The guy wants to get paid like he is in the top 5 or 6 WR talents in the league. Not gonna happen, and I dont blame SD for calling his bluff. If V.J. doesn't somehow get signed to a team this year, he will, in my opinion, end up losing money when he does sign a deal after the CBA or before, whichever. Plus, think about these points. He gets one year older. He doesn't play football for over a year. He loses one more year towards being UFA. Teams will want to draft their next big WR instead of picking him up for a load of $. His price will definitely go down from what he is asking for now.

BUT.............


Look at our recent history drafting WR's. Shit, look at our two "no Miss" 2nd rounders. VJ in my honest opinion is definitely worth a 2nd rounder. A second and a 5th even. I think we should swing a deal with SD, and get a proven commodity instead of fvckin whiffing in the draft. If Shanny is all about WIN NOW, why not get this top tier, young recever in his prime for McNabb to throw to? When its all said and done, alot of the experts think when he does get signed, his susp. will only be 3 games, and the xtra 3 will get canned. We need to get this deal done. And we need him in practice now.

Jackson

Moss

Armstrong............Our WR's just went from a laughing stock to the best in the NFC East, and McNabb gets an additional weapon with great hands to throw to. If we are serious about making a push, we should make this deal. Definitely worth a 2 and 5.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

How many guys in this league have had one or two good before they folded and done disappeared? Give me a break, guys like Rice and and Jackson haven't had nearly enough good seasons to say they're better than Ward, Wayne, Smith, or Johnson. Just because you're younger doesn't mean better. And if you think Vincent Jackson (only two good season, not even a 1200 yard season...Santana Moss has had one of those...lol) is better than Reggie Wayne or Chad Johnson you're out of your f'ing mind. We're comparing these guys to perennial pro-bowlers for god sake.

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If Jackson keeps hitting the bottle, he ain't going to be a top 5 WR.

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Who the f*ck is Miles Austin? Should I know who he is? Should I care? Give me a break!

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Again miles Austin has only had 1 season . Roddy White is a solid player but not the playmaker Vj is. Welker is a Slot Reciever. Either way VJ is clearly in the top 10 and to me top 5 because of his big play abilities. We all have different opinions , either way we agree that he would really help us out

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

Thank you saden! Ppl are all over Austin! Let him prove it one more year folks

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;728741]Again miles Austin has only had 1 season . Roddy White is a solid player but not the playmaker Vj is. Welker is a Slot Reciever. Either way VJ is clearly in the top 10 and to me top 5 because of his big play abilities. We all have different opinions , either way we agree that he would really help us out[/quote]

Not playing a whole season is not going to help him to be a top wideout. It seems like AJ Smith is out to F with Jackson.

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So your telling me if you had a chance to get VJ or Ward or Ocho, you wouldn't take VJ?

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=saden1;728727]Are you serious? I can't tell whether you purposely say silly things or really are silly.

1. Randy Moss
2. Andre Johnson
3. Larry Fitzgerald
4. Chad Johnson
5. Regie Wayne


Hell, I'm not even sure he's better than DeSean Jackson, Hines Ward, Steve Smith or Brandon Marshall. Top 5 my ass.[/quote]You really think Ocho is better than Jackson? Good player and all, master of running a lot of intermediate routes. Simply can't make plays like Jackson does either after the catch or downfield. I get the whole two years argument, but Ochocinco was last a 90 catch, 1,400 yard guy in 2007 (age 29). Don't know how he could be on anyone's top five list anymore based on that.

You could substitute Smith, who is still pretty dominant out there even though he's seeing his workload decreased. But if you're top five list is Moss, Johnson, Fitzgerald, Smith, and Wayne: players like Roddy White and Vincent Jackson are right there to take over as Moss/Smith/Wayne decline.

Even if Jackson is not quite top five, it seems foolish to suggest he's not going to be there soon, especially when that list is populated by 30+ year olds.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;728748]So your telling me if you had a chance to get VJ or Ward or Ocho, you wouldn't take VJ?[/quote]

If my goal is to win now, which it is, I'd take Johnson specially in light of the kind of money Jackson wants. If I want to build a team for the future I would rather have Brandon Marshall, DeSean Jackson and Santonio Holmes over Vincent Jackson.