Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;851876]NCSkins just doesn't like Cam Newton there is nothing this guy will do to make NCSkins stop criticizing him. He just does not like the guy, I get the point. He trying to make up stuff.[/quote]

Are you serious?

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

n/m..



Smoot is on the case.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

I'll back it up if you back it up.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=NC_Skins;851770]Well. It's pretty much like Jim Zorn's offense. Started out great the first half of the season and then went to shit after defenses caught up with him. We'll see. He's been impressive, but it's entirely too soon to call him the real deal/bust quite yet. Without a doubt, he'll be rookie of the year with this showing.[/quote]

It's too soon to call him the real deal? It's like Jim Zorn's offense? Based on what statistics?

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;851883]It's too soon to call him the real deal? It's like Jim Zorn's offense? Based on what statistics?[/quote]
All he is saying is that Zorn went 6-2, before falling to earth. Newton looks real enough, but half a season, isn't enough to proclaim a rookie a success. Other reminders, Horton looked to be the real deal, but after a year, couldn't find it anymore.

Bottomline, If Newton continues to play at this level he will prove himself, and for now he certainly is wowing everyone with his play after a shortened off-season, that is for sure.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;851885]All he is saying is that Zorn went 6-2, before falling to earth. Newton looks real enough, but half a season, isn't enough to proclaim a rookie a success. Other reminders, Horton looked to be the real deal, but after a year, couldn't find it anymore.

Bottomline, If Newton continues to play at this level he will prove himself, and for now he certainly is wowing everyone with his play after a shortened off-season, that is for sure.[/quote]

Has any rookie QB has ever played this good this soon?

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

Not as great as Cam, but Rick Mirer had a very very good rookie year with the Seahawks. And, of course, there's the legendary Greg Cook who changed the course of NFL history

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=SmootSmack;851889]Not as great as Cam, but Rick Mirer had a very very good rookie year with the Seahawks. And, of course, there's the legendary Greg Cook who changed the course of NFL history[/quote]

Greg Cook ended his career on an injury. Let me ask you this Smoot, what else would Cam have to do to convince you he is the real deal?

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;851887]Has any rookie QB has ever played this good this soon?[/quote]

Seeing as how he has set certain records, I would say no. But some great qb's also didn't set the world on fire right away. What proves greatness is sustained high quality play over time. Right now he has certainly played at a high level.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;851897]Greg Cook ended his career on an injury. Let me ask you this Smoot, what else would Cam have to do to convince you he is the real deal?[/quote]

And his injury changed the course of football.

I think, and I suspect NC Skins would say the same, Cam has been absolutely outstanding through his first six (or is it seven?) games. But we've seen many players, at different positions across all sports, get off to hot starts only to fade. So to say let's see how it plays out over a bit of a longer sample size is not hate. Not at all.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=SmootSmack;851901]And his injury changed the course of football.

I think, and I suspect NC Skins would say the same, Cam has been absolutely outstanding through his first six (or is it seven?) games. But we've seen many players, at different positions across all sports, get off to hot starts only to fade. So to say let's see how it plays out over a bit of a longer sample size is not hate. Not at all.[/quote]

Every player will have bad games, he showed me enough. If he had 5 bad games in a row wouldn't matter. It seems to some people he has to be perfect.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;851903]Every player will have bad games, he showed me enough. If he had 5 bad games in a row wouldn't matter. It seems to some people he has to be perfect.[/quote]

I think you took NC Skins comments too personal. I mean at no time did I, and probably anyone else, think he hates him and wants to see him fail. Can't understand why you did.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=SmootSmack;851905]I think you took NC Skins comments too personal. I mean at no time did I, and probably anyone else, think he hates him and wants to see him fail. Can't understand why you did.[/quote]

I am in Charlotte NC and there is a group of gripers still griping about Cam. They did not want him picked, especially at number one. They were perfectly patient for Jimmy to develop. They are still trying to come up with excuses. The guy does not even drink alcohol. It's like if he isn't perfect he is a bust. They are searching through the guy's garbage can as I speak. I sympathize with him. Some people are trying to use JaMarcus Russell to disqualify a lot great athletes that are coming up after him. It's not fair. I'm ready to call em out.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Gary84Clark;851887]Has any rookie QB has ever played this good this soon?[/quote]

Big Ben, Joe Flacco, and Matt Ryan. Before that you'd have to go back to Dan Marino.

Re: Mad props to Cam Newton
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;851910]Big Ben, Joe Flacco, and Matt Ryan. Before that you'd have to go back to Dan Marino.[/quote]

Um number for number?