Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=The Goat;867394]Not sure what you're really saying about Landry here? He will never be anything more than a poor man's Roy Williams. But I agree with you in the sense he's neither the sickness nor the cure. We need a top 5 free safety to be our brains in the secondary and challenge QBs. Landry btw has neither the intelligence nor the skill to be that guy.

The shut-down corner would be gravy but FS is the bigger need by far.[/quote]It's a three safety league now. We have one. And possibly zero at this time next year.

I think Dejon Gomes is still years away, but could project to be a starter.

Atogwe was a classic Redskins FA mistake. I think they could go either way with him next year, but I'm certain he won't be here in 2013.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

I think Gomes will stick. You're asking a lot out of anyone to cover Gronkowski with Brady being QB.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

He didnt get a chance to ever get 100% this year.

We NEED to resign Landry theres no doubt.
If we let him go WHOEVER we start there next year will be a DOWNGRADE... I guarentee it... if you think im wrong tell me who you have as our starter.. a rookie?... we have so many offensive issues letting him go and adding saftey to our draft needs is ludacris.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

yesterday i was on rotoworld they said that we are most likely signing him to the franchise tag to give him one more year to prove himself.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

So it appears Landry is once again headed to IR?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-plan-to-place-laron-landry-on-ir/2011/12/15/gIQAGEb9vO_blog.html]Redskins plan to place LaRon Landry on IR - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

I think he's toast now. I mean what's his value to the team. If it comes down to rewarding Fletcher with a nice deal and letting Landry walk, I'm sure the Org is prepared to do that.

Related, D.Gomes has to step up as a part of that equation.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

Obviously shockwave therapy and platelet-rich plasma treatments didn't work. Landry needs to go ahead and have surgery so that he can heal and at last put this injury behind him. You can't fault Mike Shanahan and Jim Haslett for electing to place him on injured reserve for the second straight year. He was prone for IR anyway because he didn't have the surgery after last year. Now, I'm thinking that it's a must that Landry has to have the surgery other wise his Achilles tendon will never mend.

If he has the surgery before the season ends, he can be 100% by mini camp.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=musicmaster45;868023]yesterday i was on rotoworld they said that we are most likely signing him to the franchise tag to give him one more year to prove himself.[/quote]

The franchise tag for a safety is fairly expensive. landrys not worth it.

both rich campbell and chris russell have said that, based on information provided by team sources, there is no chance we bring laron landry back in any capacity at any price. Aside from his injury history, his relationship with the team (and visa versa) is even worse than Carlos Rogers' was. We arent interested in him. He's not interested in us.

He had alot of potential, but he was never really that good. He made alot of big plays, but he missed alot too, due to his always wanting to make a "highlight hit." his condition is chronic and the only way he'll get better is if he has surgery, which he has declined to do (depsite the teams urging) so far. Even if he had the microtear surgery, its highly likely that he'd be effective any time soon anyways. Good riddance.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;868131]So it appears Landry is once again headed to IR?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-plan-to-place-laron-landry-on-ir/2011/12/15/gIQAGEb9vO_blog.html]Redskins plan to place LaRon Landry on IR - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

Gomes and Doughty starting the rest of the season

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

Well well well...Landry was basically a bust (for us anyway) after all. I'm absolutely fine w/ cutting him even if he succeeds elsewhere.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;868131]So it appears Landry is once again headed to IR?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-plan-to-place-laron-landry-on-ir/2011/12/15/gIQAGEb9vO_blog.html]Redskins plan to place LaRon Landry on IR - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

It's funny how this has come up again. There were a few of us arguing about this at the beginning of the season. LL missed the preseason and was out for the first game as well. All because of tweaked Hammy.......Yea right. There was more to the story and it was easy to assume if he couldn't get healthy in 4-5 weeks he wasn't going to make it through the season.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/43941-landry-to-miss-opener-vs-giants.html#post832103[/url]

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

I think we should give Laron another shot, I think the franchise tag would mitigate the risk fairly nice. Last season before the injury, which has obviously lingered, he was clearly having a pro bowl caliber season. He has struggled this year, but he has been injured.

Take a look at safety free agents and the draft class, not a lot out there. I think we need young talent at safety, but I dont believe its as pressing as Guard/Center, Tackle, WR, CB and obviously QB. I think we should spend another 4th/5th round on a safety in the draft.

OJ, as disappointing as he has been has been knicked up as well, and will return next year and will be better. Gomes is showing promising depth and you can tell he is not up to 100% speed in our system. Reed needs to be cut, period.

"But Chico, the franchise tag is alot of money." Who gives a f*ck, its one year? Rather be locked in one year than locked in 5 years with 18-25 mil guarenteed and its turns out Laron will never be 100% again due to injury. Then we will really be pissed.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;868141]The franchise tag for a safety is fairly expensive. landrys not worth it.

[B]both rich campbell and chris russell have said that, based on information provided by team sources, there is no chance we bring laron landry back in any capacity at any price. Aside from his injury history, his relationship with the team (and visa versa) is even worse than Carlos Rogers' was. We arent interested in him. He's not interested in us.[/B]

He had alot of potential, but he was never really that good. He made alot of big plays, but he missed alot too, due to his always wanting to make a "highlight hit." his condition is chronic and the only way he'll get better is if he has surgery, which he has declined to do (depsite the teams urging) so far. Even if he had the microtear surgery, its highly likely that he'd be effective any time soon anyways. Good riddance.[/quote]

got any reference to this? i really don't see how it's a done deal already.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=Chico23231;868243]I think we should give Laron another shot, I think the franchise tag would mitigate the risk fairly nice. Last season before the injury, which has obviously lingered, he was clearly having a pro bowl caliber season. He has struggled this year, but he has been injured.

Take a look at safety free agents and the draft class, not a lot out there. I think we need young talent at safety, but I dont believe its as pressing as Guard/Center, Tackle, WR, CB and obviously QB. I think we should spend another 4th/5th round on a safety in the draft.

OJ, as disappointing as he has been has been knicked up as well, and will return next year and will be better. Gomes is showing promising depth and you can tell he is not up to 100% speed in our system. Reed needs to be cut, period.

[B]"But Chico, the franchise tag is alot of money." Who gives a f*ck, its one year? Rather be locked in one year than locked in 5 years with 18-25 mil guarenteed and its turns out Laron will never be 100% again due to injury. Then we will really be pissed[/B].[/quote]

i agree with pretty much everything you have said, except that the franchise tag is a lot of money. i beleive i heard it is about 7 mil, that for one year is not that bad. and if i'm not mistaken we will have a ton of cap space next year. i think if we work with laron and tell him we want to pay him this kind of money long term we just have to make sure he stays healthy and is productive and blah blah blah, talk the talk to him, tag him and see what happens. then if he can have a solid season next year sign him long term with a very incentive contract. i would just hate to lose another guy after his rookie contract is up to see him florish else where.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=Big C;862840]we need to re-sign him. if we dont, it just opens up another huge hole in this team.[/quote]

The hole is already there. Landry plays better as a SS vs. a FS. Honestly Doughty plays just as good SS as Landry does. Both make the same mistakes on occasion. But our problem is the team has used Doughty as SS and Landry as FS. Landry can't cover anyone as a FS.

In other words the hole is already there. This team needs to draft a FS cause Atogwe is not any better. Now if the coaching staff feels Atogwe will work out but needs more time to digest the scheme as all the other players did in their first year then I'll be ok with them keeping him, but for me not only does he seem lost in this scheme but he does not hit very hard. We need a big FS hitter, one that can run sideline to sideline breaking up passes and helping out the CB.