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The Redskins offensive line is not a great line. They work well but the offensive line is flawed. The left side with Trent Williams and Kory Lichtensteiger is the best of the unit. Montgomery is okay, but the Redskins can definitely do better at center. RG is fine. While some Redskins fans gets down on Polumbus, he has actually done a decent job.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

To all - Please accept my apologies. I should have left the personal flame at Goat out of the general thread.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

[quote=The Goat;967925]What are you talking about? He passes outside the pocket regularly, but sitting back in the pocket he gets crushed with a couple seconds of the snap. I think just about every game announcer has said as much.[/quote]

BHA said RG3 was hit on nearly every all of this attempts against Dallas, except once or twice. Sorry I just don't believe the number was that high. So until you guys can provide some facts to back this up, I'm calling BS. That's what I'm talking about.

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Just watching the game highlights on NFL.com I counted 5 passes where RG3 wasn't hit, and on 3 of his 4 TDs he wasn't touched.

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[quote=Mattyk;967941]BHA said RG3 was hit on nearly every all of this attempts against Dallas, except once or twice. Sorry I just don't believe the number was that high. So until you guys can provide some facts to back this up, I'm calling BS. That's what I'm talking about.[/quote]

I took it to mean every drop back in the pocket, since that's been the topic of discussion. Moving on...

[QUOTE=Mattyk;967941]BHA said RG3 was hit on nearly every all of this attempts against Dallas, except once or twice. Sorry I just don't believe the number was that high. So until you guys can provide some facts to back this up, I'm calling BS. That's what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]

RGIII took some vicious hits on a couple critical drop backs - but so does every QB not named Manning, Brady or Brees. At the same time, as Matty points out, on most of the critical throws he was kept clean.

Sometimes it is like folks just see what they want- facts be damned.

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[quote=Mattyk;967941][B]BHA said RG3 was hit on nearly every all of this attempts against Dallas[/B], except once or twice. Sorry I just don't believe the number was that high. So until you guys can provide some facts to back this up, I'm calling BS. That's what I'm talking about.[/quote]

You've misremembered my statement. this is what I actually posted:

[quote]For the past two games, during the newscast [B]theyve[/B] shown stats of RGIII [B]hurried/[/b]hits/knockdown/sacked on pass attempts. In both games, there were only 1 or 2 dropbacks where one of those did not occurr. the vast majority where in the Hits and Knockdown columns. [/quote]

I spoke to graphics displayed on the newscasts, not my own observations. I also said the stats included hurries.

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At this point, I am not sure what your point is BHA. I am not saying that sarcastically, I am really unclear as to what you are asserting and why.

Is anyone, at this point, arguing that our line is faultless? or that it can't stand improvement? I think everyone pretty much agrees that, after our DB's, O-line is the next priority.

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Gird your loins BHA! You are teetering dangerously close to the dark side. It's a short trip to..........Goatville.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;967966]You've misremembered my statement. this is what I actually posted:



I spoke to graphics displayed on the newscasts, not my own observations. I also said the stats included hurries.[/quote]

Well, as I said on 3 of his 4 TD throws he wasn't touched. I doubt he was hit, hurried or pressured on all the rest of his drop backs.

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[quote=Hog1;967970]Gird your loins BHA! You are teetering dangerously close to the dark side. It's a short trip to..........[B]Goatville[/B].[/quote]

hilarious :food-smil



I think everyone can agree we need better play from the Right Tackle position and probably will have a new starter there next year which will help. Kory L has been up and down all year, and we have young talent there who could push for playing time at that spot as well. Things are looking up along the Oline.

But certainly the Oline has fared much better than anticipated lead by the pro bowl-like play of Trent and Monty.

Re: Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

Screw you guys, my town is real America :)

I agree the line is better than expected at run blocking. About what I expected for pass blocking, which is not so good.

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as for no one available - vollmer from NE is good and will be a FA that might not get re-signed due to other contracts there.

he's not a LT, he's not going to get LT money, so he should at least get a look. we don't need to go crazy due to other concerns (coverage units), but it might work out well.

the only other need on O is a TE (which is more important than RT for us and cheaper to man). everything else is straight D.

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[quote=That Guy;968011]as for no one available - vollmer from NE is good and will be a FA that might not get re-signed due to other contracts there.

he's not a LT, he's not going to get LT money, so he should at least get a look. we don't need to go crazy due to other concerns (coverage units), but it might work out well.

the only other need on O is a TE (which is more important than RT for us and cheaper to man). everything else is straight D.[/quote]

I could see us roll with the TE corp we have. Paul finally flashed something and we've got Lunch Pail Logan to start with Cooley sparing his some reps. Davis will work his way back next season, and I don't think we have to worry about competing for his services much.

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As much crap that D.Hall gets from the media and fans, he is statistically having a pro-bowl caliber year. Just saying