Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=irish;1083571]Thanks for the contract clarification.

The downside of trading KC too soon is that you completely hitch your wagon to what is a damaged and apparently injury prone horse.[/quote]

For once me and Irish agree. If we trade Cousins away next year finding a replacement backup has to be a top priority. I'm definitely not willing to bet on Griffin having an injury free future after this one.

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=skinsguy;1083561]I think we need to revisit this convo after Kirk has played in a few more games.

And, no, Smoot, you're not the only one who saw RGIII playing well before he got hurt. I saw it, my wife saw it (before she fell asleep on the couch, lol!)

In the end, whatever and whoever gets us to another Super Bowl championship is who I'll roll with. If it's RGIII, Kirk Cousins, or Stone Cold Steve Austin, that's who I'll pull for. Team first!

But for the record, if we do compare RGIII to Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien in their primes, RGIII is probably still head and shoulders over in terms of athletic ability and ceiling height.[/quote]

What did your wife watch 5 minutes then fall asleep?

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[quote=irish;1083488]Minimal to none.[/quote]


I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_bias"]Commitment bias[/URL] is a hell of a drug.

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=mooby;1083572]For once me and Irish agree. If we trade Cousins away next year finding a replacement backup has to be a top priority. I'm definitely not willing to bet on Griffin having an injury free future after this one.[/quote]

I want a poster for a movie called The Shadow. A Wide Shot of RG3 looking down like the picture below with a shadow in the shape of Kirk Cousins.
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Sometimes.....a starter......is only as good as his backup......

Staring James Gandolfini as RG3 and Michael Cera as Kirk Cousins. Why....Why Not?

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1083579]I want a poster for a movie called The Shadow. A Wide Shot of RG3 looking down like the picture below with a shadow in the shape of Kirk Cousins.
[IMG]http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/907089/153624912.0_standard_352.0.jpg[/IMG]
Sometimes.....a starter......is only as good as his backup......

Staring James Gandolfini as RG3 and Michael Cera as Kirk Cousins. Why....[B][U]Why Not?[/U][/B][/quote]

For starters one of them is dead. :Smoker:

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[quote=saden1;1083576]I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_bias"]Commitment bias[/URL] is a hell of a drug.[/quote]

The Seahawks are a nice team.

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=saden1;1083576]I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_bias"]Commitment bias[/URL] is a hell of a drug.[/quote]

At this point RG is not a franchise QB.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1083584]For starters one of them is dead. :Smoker:[/quote]

Yeah I don't follow. I guess I can't blame you though. You're not a gennus like me.
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Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1083549]You can see by how they called the game and by the comments of Gruden, they're not going to sit back and ask KC to not do much. If anything, the game plan will be more aggressive.[/quote]

If KC can do what he did against the Jax, against a quality team, I'm all for it. I'm just holding on to see how KC does against a competent team that gameplans against him.

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1083579]I want a poster for a movie called The Shadow. A Wide Shot of RG3 looking down like the picture below with a shadow in the shape of Kirk Cousins.

Sometimes.....a starter......is only as good as his backup......

Staring James Gandolfini as RG3 and Michael Cera as Kirk Cousins. Why....Why Not?[/quote]


FORESHADOWING? Are you saying Robert's career has gone the way of James Gandolfini? D E A D?

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So evidently there are a number of QBs who suffered a lot of injuries early on in their careers and bounced back to be franchise QBs. What might present more challenges for RGIII than for some of those other QBs are the nature of the injuries he's suffered combined with his style of play. Much of his game is predicated on mobility; he's now had two knee reconstructions and pretty serious ankle injury. If this causes him to lose a step, lateral quickness, agility, etc., then he will be playing without his best attributes. I'd much prefer he'd torn his labrum into little pieces. That being said, it's foolish at this point to consider him finished.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1083593]FORESHADOWING? Are you saying Robert's career has gone the way of James Gandolfini? D E A D?[/quote]

[URL="http://youtu.be/wisHcuBzTCM?t=27s"]No...n...no. It is not a thing you can comprehend![/URL] Actually I just trying to think who would be the worst possible choice to play RG3 in a movie....you know for the lulz....because after all if I'm not providing lulz around here I'm pretty much useless as a member.

DAMN YOU SUBCONCIOUS!!!!!

[quote=Ruhskins;1083592]If [B]KC[/B] can do what he did against the Jax, against a quality team, I'm all for it. I'm just holding on to see how [B]KC [/B]does against a competent team that gameplans against him.[/quote]

OH and before I forget. Thou shalt not use KC to shorthand Kirk Cousins anymore. I am TIRED of thinking someone is talking about the Kansas City football team when they are in fact talking about our beloved Captain Kirk!

I read the post above and I can't help but wonder when did the Chiefs play the Jags. My brain only has one room in slot one for the KC abbreviation and right now it is reserved for the Chiefs. Not even the city mind you rather just the football team.

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1083598][URL="http://youtu.be/wisHcuBzTCM?t=27s"]No...n...no. It is not a thing you can comprehend![/URL] Actually I just trying to think who would be the worst possible choice to play RG3 in a movie....you know for the lulz....because after all if I'm not providing lulz around here I'm pretty much useless as a member.

DAMN YOU SUBCONCIOUS!!!!!



OH and before I forget. Thou shalt not use KC to shorthand Kirk Cousins anymore. I am TIRED of thinking someone is talking about the Kansas City football team when they are in fact talking about our beloved Captain Kirk!

I read the post above and I can't help but wonder when did the Chiefs play the Jags. My brain only has one room in slot one for the KC abbreviation and right now it is reserved for the Chiefs. Not even the city mind you rather just the football team.[/quote]

Listen Db59, don't tell me how to post in here!!!

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:)

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[quote=Ruhskins;1083605]Listen Db59, don't tell me how to post in here!!!

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:)[/quote]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=2]Bro when I first saw your post I proceeded to write a 24.5 page single spaced thesis, using 8pt comic sans concerning my thoughts on the Jags-Chiefs game. Only to learn that not only was there no Jags-Chiefs game but that you were in fact talking about Capt. Kirk.

I am only trying to protect future victims who suffer from the same compulsive BS thesis disease that I suffer from.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time
 

Anyone know whether Jordan Reed is likely to play v. the Eagles this weekend? It occurs to me that the Redskins-Eagles rivalry is now the most important in the division. I think the Giants are a pretty flawed team and won't reach .500, and I think Dallas has such signficant problems on D that they won't be any better. The Eagles are the team to beat in our division, and the way Chip Kelly has them playing, that may be true for some time (the Spoles/McCoy combo is pretty scary for opposing defenses -- if they upgrade at the WR position next year....) The Eagles D has some flaws, but they will score a lot of points. I hope Reed is available to us even though Paul did well in reserve last week.