Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1118648]For real... man cave, Instagram, Facebook, is this a football team or a damn boy band with all this nonsense that gets everyone riled
up

I don't even know what man cave is nor do I give two shits[/QUOTE]


I am not trying to directly bad mouth anyone, but considering that Jason Reid is the host of "man cave" you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself if you listen to THAT clown.

Insert billy Madison moderator guy...anyone who listens to one word out of that moron's mouth loses iq and brain power.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1118646]I'm more amazed at the amount of people referring the Man Cave than any of the RG3 craziness going on.

I know there's some craziness going on, but a lot of you seem to be obsessed over it and seem to be biting on the media bait.[/quote]

If obsessed is defined as pissed off that a "reputable" ESPN affiliate would suggest that the demotion of Robert could be based in racism.......I'm guilty. I do not like my Redskins being wrongly characterized in that way and I further take issue with a supposedly legitimate broadcaster casting cheap dispersion's at our expense for personal gain.
Even though this seems to be their......job

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=Mattyk;1118648]For real... man cave, Instagram, Facebook, is this a football team or a damn boy band with all this nonsense that gets everyone riled
up

[B]I don't even know what man cave is nor do I give two shits[/B][/quote]

Words to live by.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[QUOTE=Hog1;1118650]If obsessed is defined as pissed off that a "reputable" ESPN affiliate would suggest that the demotion of Robert could be based in racism.......I'm guilty. I do not like my Redskins being wrongly characterized in that way and I further take issue with a supposedly legitimate broadcaster casting cheap dispersion's at our expense for personal gain.
Even though this seems to be their......job[/QUOTE]


2 can play at this game.

I'm not a Snyder fan, but he should scare BSPN with a little slandering lawsuit...

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
[url]http://t.co/lh5GWwIKYM[/url] [url]http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM[/url]

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=kingj;1118654]@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
[url=http://t.co/lh5GWwIKYM]London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com[/url] [url]http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM[/url]

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.[/quote]

London Fletcher needs to stfu for once.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

Maybe Gruden failed with RG3, but maybe he succeeded with Cousins? We shall see.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

The thing with Cousins is he has always had the talent. Not elite talent, but talent nonetheless. Whether he succeeds as a starter to me boils down to one thing. Can he overcome diversity. In the past, he would play well until things didnt go his way, then he moped around like a 10 year old who just had his bike stolen. If he can play every play independent of everything else, then he should be successful. If he lets his prior mistakes be apart of his decision process, he wont.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=kingj;1118654]@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
[url=http://t.co/lh5GWwIKYM]London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com[/url] [url]http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM[/url]

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.[/quote]

As Chico has appropriately stated.....London Fletcher needs to STFU
And I'm not sure Jay has a whole lot of.....skin on the table? He nor Scott drafted any of the current crop of QB'S. Dan and Bruce's. He is simply trying to do the best he can with the cards he was dealt.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

If this season turns into a disaster we will be starting over needing not only a new QB but a new head coach which with my crazy math sets us back three years.

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=kingj;1118654]@NFLonCBS: London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG III
[url=http://t.co/lh5GWwIKYM]London Fletcher: Jay Gruden failed at his job of developing RG3 - CBSSports.com[/url] [url]http://t.co/yqnYDZtDxM[/url]

This is why pressure is now squarely on Gruden. He had final say and it's now put up or shut up.

Either way I think both Griffin and Gruden are gone before 2016 season starts.[/quote]

Absolutely. In fact, Griffin regressed under Gruden. Not all Gruden's fault of course, but he failed at what he was brought in to do.

P.S. You have to wonder why Griffin went from solid in 2013 under Shanny to crap in 2014.

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[quote=SirLK26;1118661]Absolutely. In fact, Griffin regressed under Gruden. Not all Gruden's fault of course, but he failed at what he was brought in to do.

P.S. You have to wonder why Griffin went from solid in 2013 under Shanny to crap in 2014.[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14875/robert-griffin]Robert Griffin Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN[/url]

Umm. . .

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[quote=Mattyk;1118656]Maybe Gruden failed with RG3, but maybe he succeeded with Cousins? We shall see.[/quote]

Cousins is going to catch fire in the middle of the season, u heard it here 1st :)

Re: Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

Both Shanny and JG have alluded if not stated, he cannot be a drop back passer at this time. Thought the available info suggests Robert no longer wanted to be a running QB. For ALL the reasons anyone who has watched Robert/Skins game of late.
It would be difficult if not absurd to put this on Gruden. He may be fired for other sins at a later date, but Robert through injury, lack of Pro style evolution, work/study habits and a ridiculous.....social program has F...d up

Cousins to start 2015 Season
 

[QUOTE=Hog1;1118665]Both Shanny and JG have alluded if not stated, he cannot be a drop back passer at this time. Thought the available info suggests Robert no longer wanted to be a running QB. For ALL the reasons anyone who has watched Robert/Skins game of late.

It would be difficult if not absurd to put this on Gruden. He may be fired for other sins at a later date, but Robert through injury, lack of Pro style evolution, work/study habits and a ridiculous.....social program has F...d up[/QUOTE]


I'm 100% on board with shanny and Gruden belief that RGIII is not a pocket passer. IMO that part is clearly obvious.

So there were 2 options for Gruden: develop RG3/run read option or go with traditional pocket passer type (cousins).

He made his choice. London was right that Gruden was brought in to develop Griffin. Much was written about this at the time. He decided that he couldn't do it and needed a pocket passer for HIS system.

That's fine, but now it's time to show results or he will get canned. It's the bottom line, really.

Shanny took shots at Gruden for not adapting and working towards robert's strength, R/O. That's fine if he refused but now it's down to he better succeed with cousins/McCoy this year or he's out.