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Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[quote=skinsfaninok;1190263][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/13/kirk-cousins-has-a-film-crew-documenting-his-free-agency-experience/]Kirk Cousins has a film crew documenting his free agency experience – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Ok this is a little much now.[/quote]

Kirk is making it easier and easier for me to be glad he's gone. Holy Shit. I was already realizing that he's not the "consummate professional" that he tries to project to the media, but this takes it to a whole new level. WOW.

For those who are thinking of watching this compelling television, I'll sum it up and save you the trouble.

1. Takes a plane ride.
2. signs on the dotted line.
3. Receives a big wad of cash.

WOW.

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1190479]If he tears an acl game 1 they are screwed for 3 years. Granted injuries are what they are, but they better make their oline better.

I will be interested (in an nfl fan way not KC specific) to see what happens at the end of the 3 years.[/QUOTE]

We don’t know the details of the deal yet and what part of it could be guaranteed based on injury

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[quote=HailGreen28;1190455]Here's Kirk's goodbye:

[URL="https://kirkcousins.org/blogs/blog/thank-you-washington?utm_campaign=KCfarewell031218&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social"]https://kirkcousins.org/blogs/blog/thank-you-washington?utm_campaign=KCfarewell031218&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social[/URL]

"There is no way I would be where I am today without the leadership of the Redskins organization … Coach Gruden, Bruce Allen, Dan Snyder. Thank you all for the opportunity you gave me. When Cooper someday asks: “Hey Dad, what was it like playing for the Redskins?” I’ll proudly tell him it was a dream come true.

Thanks for having me, Washington, and thanks for making me into the player I am today!"

But what a D-Bag Cousins is, and what a great guy Alex Smith is, right?[/quote]

You forgot to include this detail. Right from the get go.

[quote]As I’m about to make one of the bigger decisions of my life, I’ll be saying goodbye to my familiar life as a Redskin. After calling Washington home for the past six years, [B][U]the team has decided to move on to another option and, in turn, my family and I will be moving on as well.[/U][/B][/quote]

He's a bit disingenuous with that statement. Our team had no other choice but to move on because he had no fucking intention of signing a long term deal with us. THAT is the big difference in the two "good byes". Yeah, he is a douche bag.

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

Well the team did make the first move in trading for Smith, I think that’s what he’s referring to. Either way it’s over, time to move on.

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[QUOTE=MTK;1190469]I’m sure the Vikings are well aware of how their cap projects over the next 3 years. This is hardly a deal that will handcuff them.[/QUOTE]We shall see they are already asking players to take pay cuts or be cut today.

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Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[QUOTE=Dan73;1190497]We shall see they are already asking players to take pay cuts or be cut today.

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That’s a normal part of business every year

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[QUOTE=MTK;1190499]That’s a normal part of business every year[/QUOTE]It is normal to not only resign the qb that led the team to NFC championship game but telling your leading rusher take a pay cut or your gone?

If the Skins did this people would be losing their minds and questioning the front office.

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[quote=Dan73;1190501]It is normal to not only resign the qb that led the team to NFC championship game but telling your leading rusher take a pay cut or your gone?

If the Skins did this people would be losing their minds and questioning the front office.

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I'm just glad this is over, it's way past time to move on.

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[QUOTE=Dan73;1190501]It is normal to not only resign the qb that led the team to NFC championship game but telling your leading rusher take a pay cut or your gone?

If the Skins did this people would be losing their minds and questioning the front office.

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Yes it’s normal to try to improve your team any way possible

Please dude the hate parade is beyond tired at this point

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[QUOTE=MTK;1190505]Yes it’s normal to try to improve your team any way possible

Please dude the hate parade is beyond tired at this point[/QUOTE]It is not hate to point out a team not only did not resign their qb that lead them to the NFC championship game but is asking their leading rusher to take a pay cut. All to sign a qb to the richest contract so far who is losing record against teams over 500.

If the Skins had signed Mo Wilkerson to crazy money and started cutting players I would be saying things exact same thing about the Skins.

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[QUOTE=Dan73;1190515]It is not hate to point out a team not only did not resign their qb that lead them to the NFC championship game but is asking their leading rusher to take a pay cut. All to sign a qb to the richest contract so far who is losing record against teams over 500.

If the Skins had signed Mo Wilkerson to crazy money and started cutting players I would be saying things exact same thing about the Skins.

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They want Murray to take a cut because Cook is their main guy, not because they can’t afford Cousins

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

So now Kirk finally gets to have the same experience that RG3 had when he first came to Washington.

Washington rolled out the red carpet for RG3.
Minnesota is rolling out the red carpet for Kirk.

RG3 was expected to be the difference maker. Now we finally have the QB that can take us to the top.
Kirk is now the difference maker for Minnesota. He will be the one that can finally get them to the top.

RG3 had an amazing college resume that shows he's the one that can do it.
Kirk has an amazing resume from Washington that shows he's the one that can do it.

RG3 always said the right things in public.
Kirk always says the right things in public.

RG3 got all the media attention.
Kirk is getting all the media attention, and since that's not enough he's creating his own.

At the time of RG3's signing, he had 100% potential.
At this time for Minnesota, Kirk has 100% potential.

At the time Washington took some big hits to get RG3.
Minnesota is taking some hits to get Kirk.

Kirk is finally getting the attention he deserves. In your face Snyder. Revenge is sweet. I hope he can back it up on the field.

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[quote=rickmmrr;1190521]So now Kirk finally gets to have the same experience that RG3 had when he first came to Washington.

Washington rolled out the red carpet for RG3.
Minnesota is rolling out the red carpet for Kirk.

RG3 was expected to be the difference maker. Now we finally have the QB that can take us to the top.
Kirk is now the difference maker for Minnesota. He will be the one that can finally get them to the top.

RG3 had an amazing college resume that shows he's the one that can do it.
Kirk has an amazing resume from Washington that shows he's the one that can do it.

RG3 always said the right things in public.
Kirk always says the right things in public.

RG3 got all the media attention.
Kirk is getting all the media attention, and since that's not enough he's creating his own.

At the time of RG3's signing, he had 100% potential.
At this time for Minnesota, Kirk has 100% potential.

At the time Washington took some big hits to get RG3.
Minnesota is taking some hits to get Kirk.

Kirk is finally getting the attention he deserves. In your face Snyder. Revenge is sweet. I hope he can back it up on the field.[/quote]

Why is Dan at fault here? I never understood linking Kirk's decision to Dan... I'm glad Dan didn't break the bank for Kirk... So why else would this be a stab at Dan?

Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

[quote=NC_Skins;1190489]You forgot to include this detail. Right from the get go.

He's a bit disingenuous with that statement. Our team had no other choice but to move on because he had no fucking intention of signing a long term deal with us. THAT is the big difference in the two "good byes". Yeah, he is a douche bag.[/quote]

I forgot nothing, just pointed out the conclusion of Cousin's goodbye.

What's disingenuous about what you quoted? Cousins calls a spade a spade.

The idiot Redskins front office had plenty of choices to sign Cousins. They chose to use the franchise tag until they priced Kirk out of reach, with the climbing value of the tag and the market value of QBs. That is completely on the front office.

Here's a good summary of what the Redskin FO did:

[url=http://www.theteam980.com/2018/01/05/cousins-interview/]Cousins Interview | The Team 980[/url]

The interview confirmed that Scot McCloughan was behind the team’s initial contract offer in late 2015. Cousins revealed that it happened before the Bears game in December of ’15. Cousins implied that McCloughan was smart and wanted to do it before the final few games of ’15 because he thought it was the right time to get a team-friendly deal. This is where the team’s initial offer was discussed. My understanding is that the initial offer/discussion in December of 2015 was for $12.5M per year. Cousins and his agent passed on the offer thinking that if he played well over the final few games and they were able to win the division the price would go much higher. Cousins played great down the stretch, the Skins won the division, and the price went up. According to reports at the time, when the season ended, the Redskins upped their offer to $16M per year/$24M guaranteed. This was an offer that was far short of Cousins’ market value especially after Brock Osweiler signed a deal for $18M per/$37M gtd in Houston. The reporting at the time was that Cousins would have signed a long-term deal at $19M per yr/$44M guaranteed. The Skins never came off the $16Mper/$24M gtd and hence, the first franchise tag was used. This was the moment the team must look back on and cringe. If they had ponied up and accepted the Cousins counter in early 2016, Cousins would currently be the 15th highest-paid QB in the league at $19M per year with still 3 years remaining on the contract. Not budging off the $16M/$24M led to the first tag and from the moment that first tag got slapped on Cousins, the ability to get a long-term deal was going to be more difficult, especially if he played well….and he did.

Numbers sure were low then compared to now, lol.

So the Redskins front office lowballed Cousins, dicked around for two years, and Cousins is at fault for trying to do right for himself, instead of just taking it?

Seriously, what do you think Cousins should have done? Keep in mind what offer the Skins didn't accept, and how the market value for QBs shot upwards recently.