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[QUOTE=irish][QUOTE=LadyT]

Andy Polen ran the numbers on yesterday's Sports Reporters show on WTEM concerning LA being a big turnovers guy and the numbers show he is not the turnover guy the fans think he is. He has about 3 INTs for his career and in the year he played 14 games for Marty he had zero forced fumbles. The bottom line is that LA is not the turnover machine he is perceived to be.

That said I do think he should be in the game for more than 2 special teams plays.[/QUOTE]

If I recall, didn't he lead the team in tackles for at least 1 or 2 years or else he was the #2 tackler for a year or two? He also is one of the few players we have right now who has proven he can get to the QB. Right now, I will gladly take someone, anyone who can get to the QB.

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T-minus 9mins till Lavar gets on 980am and starts crying again.......

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I am sure somebody will post his comments, but just in case PLEASE POST HIS COMMENTS!! I am in Charlotte NC and cant listen to the show.


Stats from last year. LaVar first two games, 15 tackles 1 sack. this year Holdman 5 games, 12 tackles, no sacks. boy, what a stud!

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Interesting comments on NFL.com. scroll down to week 6 hits, the ananlyst says its personal and then quotes trent green, "the mans a beast" then quotes Gonzales "they would be alot better if he was on the field" "he is one of the best LB in the game" Coming from people that have faced him or atleast play the game realize what a mistake it is for him to be sitting the bench.

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Well if Trent Green says put him in than what are we waiting for?????? If only we could fire Gibbs and have Trent and Tony G coach us up!

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Greetings Redskin fans! I, like many others have read SO MUCH BS over the Lavar thing, and the Brunell/Ramsey thing, and whatever the latest "thing" is. Basically, continously second guessing the coaching staff. It should be noted the media generally blows this stuff up as they get paid to generate stories. The more controversial, the better, etc. They are not qualified to be a coach. We, as fans can certainly have any opinion we desire (however wrong it may be), but we are not qualified to be coach's. The players make great players, but they are not qualified to be coach's.
The list of people above, and many more would be qualified to coach if they could answer some of the following positively:

1) I have participated in four or more Super bowls (Y) (N)

2) I have won three or more Super Bowls (Y) (N)

3) I have been a head/assistant head with a NFL FB team (Y) (N)

3) I have.............well you get the idea.

Our coach's ONLY do things for the good of the team. There is no other reasonable position with any foundation. They will do basically ANYTHING to win. I, like you, would have it no other way!!! We as fans, media, etc. are not privy to ANYTHING "they" don't want us to know. Our coach's have delivered a COMPETATIVE team, the media now calls "for real". We are in a dogfight for dominance in the NFC East. We have been a joke in the media for much of the time Gibbs and his team have been gone. They are delivering. Sit back and enjoy the ride. The momentum is building. The problems we are having are normal growing pains, nothing more.

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[QUOTE=FirstandTen]Well if Trent Green says put him in than what are we waiting for?????? If only we could fire Gibbs and have Trent and Tony G coach us up![/QUOTE]

Thats pretty funny!! I was just trying to say that other players, even other teams know how good LaVar is and that he would make a difference in the defensive performance. But, I do like your responce, who knows, Trent Green may be a very good coach one day.

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[QUOTE=Hog1]Greetings Redskin fans! I, like many others have read SO MUCH BS over the Lavar thing, and the Brunell/Ramsey thing, and whatever the latest "thing" is. Basically, continously second guessing the coaching staff. It should be noted the media generally blows this stuff up as they get paid to generate stories. The more controversial, the better, etc. They are not qualified to be a coach. We, as fans can certainly have any opinion we desire (however wrong it may be), but we are not qualified to be coach's. The players make great players, but they are not qualified to be coach's.
The list of people above, and many more would be qualified to coach if they could answer some of the following positively:

1) I have participated in four or more Super bowls (Y) (N)

2) I have won three or more Super Bowls (Y) (N)

3) I have been a head/assistant head with a NFL FB team (Y) (N)

3) I have.............well you get the idea.

Our coach's ONLY do things for the good of the team. There is no other reasonable position with any foundation. They will do basically ANYTHING to win. I, like you, would have it no other way!!! We as fans, media, etc. are not privy to ANYTHING "they" don't want us to know. Our coach's have delivered a COMPETATIVE team, the media now calls "for real". We are in a dogfight for dominance in the NFC East. We have been a joke in the media for much of the time Gibbs and his team have been gone. They are delivering. Sit back and enjoy the ride. The momentum is building. The problems we are having are normal growing pains, nothing more.[/QUOTE]


THANK YOU!

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[QUOTE=Hog1]Greetings Redskin fans! I, like many others have read SO MUCH BS over the Lavar thing, and the Brunell/Ramsey thing, and whatever the latest "thing" is. Basically, continously second guessing the coaching staff. It should be noted the media generally blows this stuff up as they get paid to generate stories. The more controversial, the better, etc. They are not qualified to be a coach. We, as fans can certainly have any opinion we desire (however wrong it may be), but we are not qualified to be coach's. The players make great players, but they are not qualified to be coach's.
The list of people above, and many more would be qualified to coach if they could answer some of the following positively:

1) I have participated in four or more Super bowls (Y) (N)

2) I have won three or more Super Bowls (Y) (N)

3) I have been a head/assistant head with a NFL FB team (Y) (N)

3) I have.............well you get the idea.

Our coach's ONLY do things for the good of the team. There is no other reasonable position with any foundation. They will do basically ANYTHING to win. I, like you, would have it no other way!!! We as fans, media, etc. are not privy to ANYTHING "they" don't want us to know. Our coach's have delivered a COMPETATIVE team, the media now calls "for real". We are in a dogfight for dominance in the NFC East. We have been a joke in the media for much of the time Gibbs and his team have been gone. They are delivering. Sit back and enjoy the ride. The momentum is building. The problems we are having are normal growing pains, nothing more.[/QUOTE]

I am enjoying the ride, its great that we are winning. But would it really be Redskin football if there wasn't a controversy? It has always been that way from the QBs, to the WR, RB, and now LBs. I wish people would understand(I am not saying anyones opinions are wrong) that the NFL is a business and people who screw around with their bosses get screwed. Just like anywhere else in America. Just because the NFL is a sport doesn't mean this can't happen to you. Coles was going to have the same thing happen to him if we didn't get offered the trade for Moss. dont you remember the blow up from Dan, saying you will not see the field, you will be sitting home watching the game on the Plasma I am sending to you. this game is about business as much as it is about sport. Its awful and I dont agree with it, but thats what we have made it. There is no loyalty from anyone in this game. from the owners to the players, the media and us fans too. We were quick to throw Brunell under the bus last year, and now he is OUR GUY!!. When coaches from around the league, GMS(who put teams together, and select talent) so called experts, media, other players from our team and other teams acknowledge the fact that there is something going on with this whole situation other than football knowledge and skill, you have to start wondering. these guys are far more involved in this game than we can ever imagine, and they hear alot more stuff that we do. I just want people to accept the fact the NFL and Gibbs and Co. and not above making "business decisions" rather than decisions that are for the betterment of our "REDSKINS"

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am enjoying the ride, its great that we are winning. But would it really be Redskin football if there wasn't a controversy? It has always been that way from the QBs, to the WR, RB, and now LBs. I wish people would understand(I am not saying anyones opinions are wrong) that the NFL is a business and people who screw around with their bosses get screwed. Just like anywhere else in America. Just because the NFL is a sport doesn't mean this can't happen to you. Coles was going to have the same thing happen to him if we didn't get offered the trade for Moss. dont you remember the blow up from Dan, saying you will not see the field, you will be sitting home watching the game on the Plasma I am sending to you. this game is about business as much as it is about sport. Its awful and I dont agree with it, but thats what we have made it. There is no loyalty from anyone in this game. from the owners to the players, the media and us fans too. We were quick to throw Brunell under the bus last year, and now he is OUR GUY!!. When coaches from around the league, GMS(who put teams together, and select talent) so called experts, media, other players from our team and other teams acknowledge the fact that there is something going on with this whole situation other than football knowledge and skill, you have to start wondering. these guys are far more involved in this game than we can ever imagine, and they hear alot more stuff that we do. I just want people to accept the fact the NFL and Gibbs and Co. and not above making "business decisions" rather than decisions that are for the betterment of our "REDSKINS"

I don't disagree #56fanatic. I acknowledge, sadly, it is a business and Lavar could end up a casualty. I miss the days of players having a career with one team. I do not believe that is the case. As I understand it, there is basically no way for the skins to deal him and come out on top. His cap hit is in the area of 10m for 2006. If they try to dump him, it gets worse. The only real avenue is to try to renegotiate his contract and play him. My only real point is, Gibbs and company are making it happen. Not since his last tenure have we done what we are doing now. They are delivering. Why all the CONSTANT unrest. They know what they are doing, let them do it. Why do we not enter the cockpit on a commercial airline flight and debate flight tactics with the pilot?

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[QUOTE=FirstandTen]Well if Trent Green says put him in than what are we waiting for?????? If only we could fire Gibbs and have Trent and Tony G coach us up![/QUOTE]


Hey, some jerkoff named Greg something said we'd be better if he was on the field only last year. Good thing that guys not the freaking coach or anything. What was that guy's last name?... Willard...Wilkins.....Wilders......... I can't remember.

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I don't care what GW says. He is the coach, if he wants to win he should find a way to get Lavar to do what he wants. Whether it is by doing some Kung Fu master vs grasshopper shit, or some other insipation. I mean he is the coach and Lavar is the player.
Everyone ignores the fact Lavar was a pro bowler, and got sacks even when he played on shitty D's. Holdman is not better then Lavar, never will be. If he doesn't make the plays when he is in position than who cares. You could train a PhD student to line up in the right places but when his ass gets blown up each snap he ain't shit. GW has beef with Lavar, Lavar is doubting himself GW is creating derision amongst the ranks....play your fucking stars it can only help you.
He has nothing to lose starting Lavar either he shines and we can utilize him or fizzles and we can move on and he can tell everyone I told you so.
I think GW is an excellent D coordinator but he needs to be a coach for a second, and get the most out of the roster.

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As much as I love Lavar, there must be something going on there as even Marvin Lewis exclaimed "Do you think it is fun coaching Lavar." I love Lavar, but I think that it has reached the time for the Redskins to bring in an outside mediator to iron out some of these differences. If we make an exception for Lavar then the whole element of "team" is compromised. He can not be an exception to the rules of the team. IMO

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[QUOTE=skinsfan0201]As much as I love Lavar, there must be something going on there as even Marvin Lewis exclaimed "Do you think it is fun coaching Lavar." I love Lavar, but I think that it has reached the time for the Redskins to bring in an outside mediator to iron out some of these differences. If we make an exception for Lavar then the whole element of "team" is compromised. He can not be an exception to the rules of the team. IMO[/QUOTE]


I agree that no player is bigger than the team, but I just wanna know what he's doing do deserve this assumtion. Williams himself recently said he has a great team-first attitude. I doubt he wouldve said that if it didn't translate over even on the practice field. Do you think if he was "freelancing" and blowind assignments in practice that GW would say he had a team first attitude. I think that would translate into a "me first" kind of attitude.

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i've been trying not to add fuel to the fire on this topic. but this is rediculous.

i know its probably absurd to say but the only thing that makes sense is that snyder has benched lavar. kinda like what davis did the marcus allen.

this is a healthy 3 time probowler in the prime of his career and he cant get on the field with 2 marginal linebackers ahead of him(marshall at MLB and Holdman OLB).

there were reports last year that snyder told Coles that he was going to bench him for the rest of his career or something like that.

I like williams, but i cant beleive a proven all pro cant get on the field...