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[quote=CultBrennan59;642835]Well, at least the good news is that jerry jones won't think about firing Wade this week, so that makes us just inch even closer to Shanahan.[/quote]
Exactly, however, it would be interesting to see an epic bidding war between Snyder and Jones to land his services. |
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[QUOTE=Matt Mosley] *
* Miles Austin is obviously the Cowboys' No. 1 wide receiver at this point. He had the big touchdown early in the game but his catch and run on a third-and-long with 6:28 left in the game held the Saints' comeback at bay. You can tell Romo has so much faith in Austin. Conversely, why would anyone have faith in Roy Williams at this point? His drop on a quick slant in the fourth quarter allowed the Saints to continue their comeback. I'd bench the guy. He really has no business being on the field -- especially with players such as Kevin Ogletree and Patrick Crayton making clutch catches. [/QUOTE] [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/8543/cowboys-rapid-fire-observations]Cowboys rapid-fire observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url] Mosley covered Roy Williams in college, if I'm not mistaken. |
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Anyway, hard to argue with other-Roy-Williams as an ideal example of someone who never really earned pro bowl status. Drafted high and playing for Dallas is a near certain ticket to get to the pro bowl.[/quote] IMO Sean Taylor was the best Safety I've ever seen. However, If you compare Roy Williams stats to Sean Taylor's they're almost identical. To insinuate the the NFL players and coaches were wrong by voting him in is non-sense. [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=3536]Roy L. Williams Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN[/url] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=5530]Sean Taylor Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN[/url] |
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I think, and I'm doing this at the risk of 10-odd games worth of evidence, I would have to conclude that between our game with the Cowboys, and each of our games with the Saints, that the Cowboys have a better defense than us for the first time since...2006.
We needed to close at the end of a great defensive performance in Dallas, and couldn't do it. They did. We needed to close after our kicker shanked it, and didn't. They could have hung their heads and gone to the locker room, but instead, their defense manned up and got it done. He's kind of a joke as a head coach, but I don't think I'd mind Wade Phillips here next year as our DC. |
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642839]IMO Sean Taylor was the best Safety I've ever seen. However, If you compare Roy Williams stats to Sean Taylor's they're almost identical. To insinuate the the NFL players and coaches were wrong by voting him in is non-sense.
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=3536"]Roy L. Williams Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN[/URL] [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=5530"]Sean Taylor Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN[/URL][/quote]I think this is a more anti-Sean argument than a pro-Roy Williams one. Sean definitely didn't deserve to go in 2006. In 2007, he was by far the best safety in the league for about half a season, but he didn't play in the second half of the season. He didn't play for the Cowboys, so it's not unreasonable to suggest that if he had missed the second half of the season with injury, as opposed to tragedy, he would have been passed over despite leading the league in INTs at the midway point. |
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[quote=GTripp0012;642834]Is it wrong that when Kalisto made the obviously fallacious statement that bums don't get voted into pro bowls, that I immediately thought of D-Hall?
Am I really that bad of a fan, or do I just not really associate him with the Redskins fully yet? Anyway, hard to argue with other-Roy-Williams as an ideal example of someone who never really earned pro bowl status. Drafted high and playing for Dallas is a near certain ticket to get to the pro bowl.[/quote] You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch |
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[quote=Chico23231;642470]fuck miles austin[/quote]
My sentiments exactly |
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WR 19 Austin, Miles ACT REC 65 YDS 1,138 AVG 17.5 TDS 11 DAL
WR 11 Williams, Roy E. ACT REC 37 YDS 592 AVG 16.0 TDS 6 DAL these are this years stats, with Austins first season as a full time starter. i guess facts are facts, and Williams sucks |
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then compare him to Fred Davis, who has only started a handful of games
TE 86 Davis, Fred ACT REC 35 YDS 369 AVG 10.5 TDS 5 WAS and you realize he REALLY sucks |
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642839]IMO Sean Taylor was the best Safety I've ever seen. However, If you compare Roy Williams stats to Sean Taylor's they're almost identical. To insinuate the the NFL players and coaches were wrong by voting him in is non-sense.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=3536]Roy L. Williams Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN[/url] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=5530]Sean Taylor Stats - Washington Redskins - ESPN[/url][/quote] Seeing that Roy Williams was drafted 2 years before Sean Taylor and they have identical stats just shows that Roy Williams didnt earn anything |
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Both Roy Williams stink, can't believe this is even a debate.
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[quote=skinsfaninok;642812]I give Dallas props they dominated no all game tonight. I still think we beat them next Sunday.. In fact I think that's our only other win of the season[/quote]
so your're giving the giant's game away....and you think the chargers are indestructable. |
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[quote=Mattyk72;642873]Both Roy Williams stink, can't believe this is even a debate.[/quote]
Not to mention the Tar Heels lost yesterday....so all 3 stink |
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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;642860]Seeing that Roy Williams was drafted 2 years before Sean Taylor and they have identical stats just shows that Roy Williams didnt earn anything[/quote]
How do you figure? Lets compare their first 4 years. It's not fair to compare Williams entire career to Sean's, since Sean only played in 4 NFL seasons. In Sean Taylor's first 4(3 and half actually) years in the NFL, he had 241 solo tackles, 61 assists, 2 sacks, 8 forced fumbles and 12 interceptions. In Roy Williams first 4 years in the NFL he had [b]342[/b] tackles, 61 assists, [b]6.5 sacks[/b], 9 forced fumbles, and 12 interceptions. That's what I mean when I say their numbers are nearly identical. Roy Williams deserved his pro bowls, especially if he matches numbers with arguably the best safety to ever play in the NFL. |
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[quote=Mattyk72;642873]Both Roy Williams stink, can't believe this is even a debate.[/quote]
It's impossible to debate anyone who places a higher value on subjectivity than the actual stats we're comparing. |
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642885]It's impossible to debate anyone who places a higher value on subjectivity than the actual stats we're comparing.[/quote]
I don't need stats to see that he seems to drop any key play that comes his way or that an undrafted free agent has clearly outplayed him this year. |
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[quote=Mattyk72;642887]I don't need stats to see that he seems to drop any key play that comes his way or that an undrafted free agent has clearly outplayed him this year.[/quote]
I moved on from the Miles Austin debate. I was referring to Roy Williams (safety). I've conceded that Miles is a better WR at this point in his career. However I'm not going to concede that Miles Austin has had a better career since he hasn't topped Roy's best season yet. Nor has Miles come close to his career stats. Nor has he earned a pro bowl yet (although I think he'll make it this year). While I'm using numbers to support my argument, most of my detractors are using childish name calling to support their arguments. "He's terrible", "you suck", "your a fool", "The NFL players who voted Roy into the Pro Bowl don't know what their talking about, but us Monday Morning armchair QB's do".. |
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642890]I moved on from the Miles Austin debate. I was referring to Roy Williams (safety). I've conceded that Miles is a better WR at this point in his career. However I'm not going to concede that Miles Austin has had a better career since he hasn't topped Roy's best season yet. Nor has Miles come close to his career stats. Nor has he earned a pro bowl yet (although I think he'll make it this year). While I'm using numbers to support my argument, most of my detractors are using childish name calling to support their arguments. "He's terrible", "you suck", "your a fool", "The NFL players who voted Roy into the Pro Bowl don't know what their talking about, but us Monday Morning armchair QB's do"..[/quote]
dude go join a cowboys board thats obviously where you belong |
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[quote=mlmdub130;642891]dude go join a cowboys board thats obviously where you belong[/quote]
On ignore you go. |
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642897]This is what I mean by childish antics Matty72. Since we were debating last night's game. And I've decided to hold my ground, this is the responses I get.[/quote]
hopefully it will soon be everyone on the site, why do you keep defending cowboy players on a redskins board it just doesn't make sense, then to say it would be stupid to put kalisto2010 is a cowboys fan as a sig, just to turn around and put roy williams and miles austin stats in your sig is kinda ridiculous |
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[I]"Fuck you bitch, I aint going no where. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"[/I] thanks for the pm kalisto2010 you are a real tough guy when you have a keyboard in front of you
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i never knew there was an ingnore option?!? what a cop out, this is what boards are for disagreeing
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How about if we talk about week 15 in this thread?
The Cinci-San Diego game should be a good one. I wonder if the Bengals get an emotional lift the way that we did when ST died. |
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so there is no one in new york at the jets game, i would say maybe 1/4 full maybe less, i wonder if it will be that way tomorrow night i know my neighborhood is still god awful, but i have 4wd and will be there tomorrow fo sho
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642890]I moved on from the Miles Austin debate. I was referring to Roy Williams (safety). [B]I've conceded that Miles is a better WR at this point in his career.[/B] However I'm not going to concede that Miles Austin has had a better career since he hasn't topped Roy's best season yet. Nor has Miles come close to his career stats. Nor has he earned a pro bowl yet (although I think he'll make it this year). While I'm using numbers to support my argument, most of my detractors are using childish name calling to support their arguments. "He's terrible", "you suck", "your a fool", "The NFL players who voted Roy into the Pro Bowl don't know what their talking about, but us Monday Morning armchair QB's do"..[/quote]
That's all I'm saying. |
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[quote=mlmdub130;642901][I]"Fuck you bitch, I aint going no where. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"[/I] thanks for the pm kalisto2010 you are a real tough guy when you have a keyboard in front of you[/quote]
Looks like someone else is capable of childish antics |
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[quote=SmootSmack;642876]Not to mention the Tar Heels lost yesterday....so all 3 stink[/quote]
ZING!!! Lol. |
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Randy Moss showing up a week late and a dollar short for my fantasy team. Eff him.
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[quote=Lotus;642925]How about if we talk about week 15 in this thread?
The Cinci-San Diego game should be a good one. I wonder if the Bengals get an emotional lift the way that we did when ST died.[/quote] i'm hoping we still get that game here in nova, it was suposed to be the cbs 4pm game here and the ravens were gonna be the 4pm fox game, we were suposed to have the eagles bears game on fox at 1 but that got pushed back, i'm hoping they keep the cincy game on cbs that should be the best game of the day |
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[quote=Mattyk72;642934]Looks like someone else is capable of childish antics[/quote]
My sincere apologies. I never would of sent him a private message If I knew he was going to publicize it. I wish they would stop stalking me over the Williams issue and just let me have my opinion. But I have them on ignore now so you'll have no more problems from me. |
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Joshua("Pay the man") Cribbs is amazing. Damn we should of followed through and drafted him.
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642954]Joshua("Pay the man") Cribbs is amazing. Damn we should of followed through and drafted him.[/quote]
I still wish you'd tell us why you defended him to such an extent when he's clearly a big bowl of stink. :) |
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[quote=GMScud;642960]I still wish you'd tell us why you defended him to such an extent when he's clearly a big bowl of stink. :)[/quote]
pretty sure he has ingnore on everyone that was in this thread last night besides credskinsrule. cribbs returns were pretty freaking awesome thoughone for 100 onefor 103 pretty big shitfest going on in new york anyone else notice the dirty sanchez that mark sanchez has? |
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I really like Arizona's offense. Great young RB duo of Wells and Hightower, obviously Bolding and Fitz (with Breaston and Doucett behind them), and old man Pop Warner. Really they are a TE away from being a top-to-bottom complete offense.
And don't forget Jeremy Bridges!! |
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Wow, Vince Young is really starting to develop. That was an awesome TD. And he's finally learning how to slide, and avoid the big hits.
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[quote=Kalisto2010;642884]How do you figure? Lets compare their first 4 years. It's not fair to compare Williams entire career to Sean's, since Sean only played in 4 NFL seasons.
In Sean Taylor's first 4(3 and half actually) years in the NFL, he had 241 solo tackles, 61 assists, 2 sacks, 8 forced fumbles and 12 interceptions. In Roy Williams first 4 years in the NFL he had [b]342[/b] tackles, 61 assists, [b]6.5 sacks[/b], 9 forced fumbles, and 12 interceptions. That's what I mean when I say their numbers are nearly identical. Roy Williams deserved his pro bowls, especially if he matches numbers with arguably the best safety to ever play in the NFL.[/quote] Because it got to a point where it was automatic that Roy Williams would get in regardless what season he had. Besides Archuleta, Roy Williams was the worst coverage Safety ever. |
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[quote=GMScud;642937]ZING!!! Lol.[/quote]
Dont talk bout my Tar Heels |
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Also Kail, stats are very misleading at times. Thats what everyone is trying to say I think.
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Quake what up?
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I believe today is the final nail in the coffin for Daunte Culpepper's career. Detroit looked like a completely different team once he was benched.
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