[QUOTE=Mattyk;1055398]Well yeah, since he puts them in a hole to begin with. Kinda easy to keep a low profile in bumfuck Indy. If he was in a major market he might have a little more heat. 7 INTs is flat out bad. Griffin threw 12 all year and all we hear is how much he struggled.[/QUOTE]

One thing I'll say about luck is he's the least talked about out of the young guns, but yeah he needs to lower those ints in the future.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1055399]One thing I'll say about luck is he's the least talked about out of the young guns, but yeah he needs to lower those ints in the future.[/quote]

Every one talks about him. Everyday he was talked about like he was Peyton Manning after the Kansas City game.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

Whisenhunt to Titans according to ESPN.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Mattyk;1055398]Well yeah, since he puts them in a hole to begin with. Kinda easy to keep a low profile in bumfuck Indy. If he was in a major market he might have a little more heat. 7 INTs is flat out bad. Griffin threw 12 all year and all we hear is how much he struggled.[/quote]


I agree with this. I will say this about Luck though. He's maintained that low profile by not only the market he plays in, but the decisions he made early on. He made a point not to do a bunch of endorsements and commercials until a later time.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000054050/article/andrew-luck-explains-why-he-does-fewer-ads-than-rg3]Andrew Luck explains why he does fewer ads than RG3 - NFL.com[/url]

[quote]"I really didn't have much time," he said. "And I wanted to make sure I had time to handle the stuff that mattered, whether it was moving into an apartment, finishing school or learning the playbook. There was so much going on, I figured the less time I spent promoting myself or doing ads, the better for me. I figured I'd wait and hopefully, at some point, a big fish will come along.'

"And really, to each his own. I don't necessarily think my way is the right way. It's what's best for each person. It's fun to see Robert capitalizing on his situation."

The rookie wage scale lowered Luck's first contract, but it's not like the guy is starving.

"I'm living fine right now," he said. "I'll focus now on football, and maybe after the season is over, we'll pursue some other opportunities, maybe something in the Silicon Valley. But for now, the time isn't right."[/quote]


It would behoove RGIII to follow Luck's lead on this.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1055410]I agree with this. I will say this about Luck though. He's maintained that low profile by not only the market he plays in, but the decisions he made early on. He made a point not to do a bunch of endorsements and commercials until a later time.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000054050/article/andrew-luck-explains-why-he-does-fewer-ads-than-rg3]Andrew Luck explains why he does fewer ads than RG3 - NFL.com[/url]




It would behoove RGIII to follow Luck's lead on this.[/QUOTE]

Why? Robert puts in a ton of time, no one has accused him of not knowing the playbook. He got married, rehabbed, did his commercials and was still statistically a good season after coming off a major injury. Its silly to me to think that a couple hours or days a year on commercial shoots impacts a player's ability to perform on the field.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

Kaep has a lot of haters, but the kid has a big heart.


[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/here-s-why-that--colin-kaepernick-is-self-centered-and-russell-wilson-is-not--comparison-is-totally-off-base-182213225.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]


Much respect.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1055414]Why? Robert puts in a ton of time, no one has accused him of not knowing the playbook. He got married, rehabbed, did his commercials and was still statistically a good season after coming off a major injury. Its silly to me to think that a couple hours or days a year on commercial shoots impacts a player's ability to perform on the field.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk[/quote]


It's in reference to keeping a low profile. Luck chose to go that route and RGIII hasn't. Well, when you want the spotlight, expect that light to burn you when things go wrong. With the media shit storm DC has, he would be better off going to Luck route.

He doesn't help himself out by making that target on his back even bigger than what it would be if he didn't do any branding. In the story today, he responded to a fan about how he didn't want the media attention. Well, if he didn't want the media attention.....WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF VIA COMMERCIALS AND MARKETING????

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10286284/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-responds-critics-facebook-post]Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins responds to critics on Facebook post - ESPN[/url]

If he doesn't want that kind of publicity, then he needs to take a route with a lower profile. It's going to be bad enough with DC media as it is, why make it that much worse?


For the record, I understand Robert gets the raw deal when it comes to the media, and it's often not fair. That said, he needs to minimize what ammo and fuel he gives them.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1055415]Kaep has a lot of haters, but the kid has a big heart.


[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/here-s-why-that--colin-kaepernick-is-self-centered-and-russell-wilson-is-not--comparison-is-totally-off-base-182213225.html"]Y! SPORTS[/URL]


Much respect.[/quote]


Good stuff

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

I like how Luck conveniently never mentions that advertisers simply weren't as interested in him.

Also, for the record, the Colts also sold those QB Showdown t-shirts as well

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1055414]Why? Robert puts in a ton of time, no one has accused him of not knowing the playbook. He got married, rehabbed, did his commercials and was [B]still statistically a good season[/B] after coming off a major injury. Its silly to me to think that a couple hours or days a year on commercial shoots impacts a player's ability to perform on the field.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk[/quote]

People love stats around here...lol.

I agree, from everything we here, he's a hard worker. But he really is starting to dig a hole for himself.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1055416]It's in reference to keeping a low profile. Luck chose to go that route and RGIII hasn't. Well, when you want the spotlight, expect that light to burn you when things go wrong. With the media shit storm DC has, he would be better off going to Luck route.

He doesn't help himself out by making that target on his back even bigger than what it would be if he didn't do any branding. In the story today, he responded to a fan about how he didn't want the media attention. Well, if he didn't want the media attention.....WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF VIA COMMERCIALS AND MARKETING????

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10286284/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-responds-critics-facebook-post]Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins responds to critics on Facebook post - ESPN[/url]

If he doesn't want that kind of publicity, then he needs to take a route with a lower profile. It's going to be bad enough with DC media as it is, why make it that much worse?


For the record, I understand Robert gets the raw deal when it comes to the media, and it's often not fair. That said, he needs to minimize what ammo and fuel he gives them.[/quote]

Those are fans from other teams piling on because his roookie year he was the de facto face of the NFL. Alot of people resented that. Comes with the territory, he should not have outshined Luck. Oliver's friends are mad also.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1055416][B]It's in reference to keeping a low profile. Luck chose to go that route and RGIII hasn't. Well, when you want the spotlight, expect that light to burn you when things go wrong. With the media shit storm DC has, he would be better off going to Luck route.[/B]

[B]He doesn't help himself out by making that target on his back even bigger than what it would be if he didn't do any branding. In the story today, he responded to a fan about how he didn't want the media attention. Well, if he didn't want the media attention.....WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF VIA COMMERCIALS AND MARKETING????[/B]

[URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10286284/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-responds-critics-facebook-post"]Robert Griffin III of Washington Redskins responds to critics on Facebook post - ESPN[/URL]

If he doesn't want that kind of publicity, then he needs to take a route with a lower profile. It's going to be bad enough with DC media as it is, why make it that much worse?


For the record, I understand Robert gets the raw deal when it comes to the media, and it's often not fair. That said, he needs to minimize what ammo and fuel he gives them.[/quote]

For someone that's so intelligent and polished, RG3 seems to fail to realize these things. It's as if now he's like.." what's the problem?" ...he just doesn't get it. Whether he realizes it or not, his branding machine has become bigger than the team. That's fine if you're Peyton Manning, not so with a 2nd year guy.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1055446]For someone that's so intelligent and polished, RG3 seems to fail to realize these things. It's as if now he's like.." what's the problem?" ...he just doesn't get it. Whether he realizes it or not, his branding machine has become bigger than the team. That's fine if you're Peyton Manning, not so with a 2nd year guy.[/quote]

That sounds like a double standard.

also, RG3 is a communications major, there is no way he could let this opportunity pass him by. He was trained to market and brand. That is his profession.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

If the commercials aren't a problem when they win, they shouldn't be a problem when they lose either. Just an example of petty, dimwitted people out there focusing on the wrong stuff.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

People need to get over the whole "keep low profile" unrealistic expectation. Even if RG3 were to give up all of his commercials, our local TMZ-like sports media will be all over him. What is he supposed to do, go live in a f*cking bunker?

Doing less commercials is not going to make him a better QB. Being completely healthy, without a knee brace, with the benefit of a full second offseason, and having some good talent around him is what's going to make him a better QB.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1055454]People need to get over the whole "keep low profile" unrealistic expectation. Even if RG3 were to give up all of his commercials, our local TMZ-like sports media will be all over him. What is he supposed to do, go live in a f*cking bunker?

[B]Doing less commercials is not going to make him a better QB. Being completely healthy, without a knee brace, with the benefit of a full second offseason, and having some good talent around him is what's going to make him a better QB.[/B][/quote]

Exactly.

And just because he does commercials he's supposed to take all this stupid and unfair criticism without being able to say anything?

Dumb.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

Good god the offseason sucks, so RG3 sux now because he does commercials? come'on people, a ton of stupid since the end of the season

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1055454]People need to get over the whole "keep low profile" unrealistic expectation. Even if RG3 were to give up all of his commercials, our local TMZ-like sports media will be all over him. What is he supposed to do, go live in a f*cking bunker?

[B]Doing less commercials is not going to make him a better QB. Being completely healthy, without a knee brace, with the benefit of a full second offseason, and [U]having some good talent around him[/U] is what's going to make him a better QB.[/B][/quote]Well said.

And he needs that talent on [I]both[/I] sides of the ball.

He needs a Defense and Special Teams that can tackle, are not always getting burned over the middle and in the backfield, and are not always giving up the big play when it really matters; giving up an average 300 yards and 30 points per game is NOT surrounding him with talent. All of his contemporaries have a complimentary solid unit on the other side of the ball - and in the case of the Seachickens it's flat-out sick.

Thinking like this, though, requires some [I]perspective[/I], which is in short supply.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Chico23231;1055458]Good god the offseason sucks, so RG3 sux now because he does commercials? [B]come'on people, a ton of stupid since the end of the season[/B][/quote]The end of the season?

Peeps been waxing stupid since the Green Bay loss. The lack of critical thinking surrounding this bad season (a bad season, nothing more) and the sheer amount of it, at this point, is almost surreal.

So now Cleveland is after Adam Gase.. geez nobody wants that job

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

Zorn will take it.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

Jim Caldwell to the Lions...

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000313063/article/jim-caldwell-hired-as-detroit-lions-head-coach]Detroit Lions to hire Jim Caldwell as head coach - NFL.com[/url]

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1055476]Jim Caldwell to the Lions...

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000313063/article/jim-caldwell-hired-as-detroit-lions-head-coach]Detroit Lions to hire Jim Caldwell as head coach - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

Hopefully he doesn't forget to find a quality backup qb this time.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Mattyk;1055453]If the commercials aren't a problem when they win, they shouldn't be a problem when they lose either. Just an example of petty, dimwitted people out there focusing on the wrong stuff.[/quote]

Yep, the commercials arent a big deal especially since he's is contractually obligated to do them. The same with his weekly pressers during the season, its something that has to be done as part of the job.

Where I do think RG could stfu is with things like his recent facebook post and twitter. That stuff isnt helpful and just provides fuel for the fire.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1055454]People need to get over the whole "keep low profile" unrealistic expectation. Even if RG3 were to give up all of his commercials, our local TMZ-like sports media will be all over him. What is he supposed to do, go live in a f*cking bunker?[/quote]

It's really really simple. If you don't want the heat from the attention you draw to yourself via marketing, don't do it. That attention works both positively and negatively depending on the circumstances. I've noted that there would be a circus regardless, but by putting oneself into the spotlight, you draw yet additional attention that probably wouldn't be as magnified had you not put yourself out there. You don't think that dumbass "ALL IN FOR WEEK ONE" bullshit didn't put pressure on people in that organization? You are very shortsighted if you think not.

I don't think anybody is asking him to live in a bunker or stop living his life. He needs (and you fans do as well) need to stop talking about the media negativity towards him while he's continually throwing his image out there via ads/promotions/etc..


[quote=Gary84Clark;1055448]also, RG3 is a communications major, there is no way he could let this opportunity pass him by. He was trained to market and brand. That is his profession.[/quote]

If communication was his major, he must have been asleep in class during those lectures, because he failed horribly at communication during this past off-season on through the season.


ps. Communications isn't a major that trains one how to market themselves. That would be Marketing.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10287474/deion-sanders-tweets-suit-pro-bowl]Deion Sanders tweets he will suit up for Pro Bowl - ESPN[/url]

Lol. Looks like the NFL put the brakes on Deion playing in the PB.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=mooby;1055492][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10287474/deion-sanders-tweets-suit-pro-bowl]Deion Sanders tweets he will suit up for Pro Bowl - ESPN[/url]

Lol. Looks like the NFL put the brakes on Deion playing in the PB.[/quote]

Leave it to Deion to make a mockery of an already ridiculous game.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=mooby;1055492][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10287474/deion-sanders-tweets-suit-pro-bowl]Deion Sanders tweets he will suit up for Pro Bowl - ESPN[/url]

Lol. Looks like the NFL put the brakes on Deion playing in the PB.[/quote]


Not happening.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/13/so-much-for-that-good-idea-no-prime-time-in-pro-bowl/]So much for that good idea, no Prime Time in Pro Bowl | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

Actually, if Jerry Rice suited up, seeing him burn Leon Sandcastle for a long TD would have been perhaps the only reason to watch. (Jerry would probably still play -- he's famous still for his workouts near where I live.)

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

First time in awhile that I won't be watching the pro-bowl.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1055509]Not happening.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/13/so-much-for-that-good-idea-no-prime-time-in-pro-bowl/]So much for that good idea, no Prime Time in Pro Bowl | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Yep... that's why I said it looks like the NFL is putting the brakes on that happening.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

It's like the National Enquirer:
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/atty-cowboys-39-brent-wasn-39-t-drunk-194721972--spt.html]Atty: Cowboys' Brent wasn't drunk when he crashed[/url]

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Mattyk;1055398]Well yeah, since he puts them in a hole to begin with. Kinda easy to keep a low profile in bumfuck Indy. If he was in a major market he might have a little more heat. 7 INTs is flat out bad. Griffin threw 12 all year and all we hear is how much he struggled.[/quote]

Or not. He's a 2nd year guy who has taken a 2-14 team to the playoffs 2 years in a row and actually won a playoff game this year. He progressed, not regressed. Yes, the INTs are bad, but what he does when he's not throwing picks is pretty ridiculous.

And off the field, he's not blaming his WRs for his picks and he isn't getting into petty pissing matches with his coaches and dipshit fans. It's a little bit of a false equivalency to say he should be getting some heat too because he threw too many interceptions in his playoff games. If he's doing it in years 5 and beyond, it will start to define him. In year 2, it would look idiotic to grill him about it.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1055463]So now Cleveland is after Adam Gase.. geez nobody wants that job[/quote]

Would anybody know about this guy if he wasn't the OC for Peyton? If Clev hires Gase that would a complete joke to their fan base.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1055570]Would anybody know about this guy if he wasn't the OC for Peyton? If Clev hires Gase that would a complete joke to their fan base.[/QUOTE]

Honestly Idk y norv just didn't get the job

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[url=http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/10295307/attorney-blasts-concussion-deal-recommend-clients-continue-sue-nfl]Attorney blasts concussion deal, will recommend clients continue to sue NFL - ESPN[/url]

This is an interesting read about why the concussion settlement was rejected by the judge. It sounds like a lot of work needs to be done on this. And it's hard to tell whether or not all retired players in need of help paying their medical bills would be getting a fair shake under the current agreement. I've also never heard of one attorney telling his co-counsel that they couldn't discuss the agreement due to a gag order. JR care to weigh in?

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=44Deezel;1055569]Or not. He's a 2nd year guy who has taken a 2-14 team to the playoffs 2 years in a row and actually won a playoff game this year. He progressed, not regressed. Yes, the INTs are bad, but what he does when he's not throwing picks is pretty ridiculous.

And off the field, he's not blaming his WRs for his picks and he isn't getting into petty pissing matches with his coaches and dipshit fans. It's a little bit of a false equivalency to say he should be getting some heat too because he threw too many interceptions in his playoff games. If he's doing it in years 5 and beyond, it will start to define him. In year 2, it would look idiotic to grill him about it.[/quote]

Just saying he deserves a little more heat than he's gotten vs guys like Kap or RG3 for their struggles. Luck is a little bit more under the radar it seems for whatever reason.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=44Deezel;1055569]Or not. He's a 2nd year guy who has taken a 2-14 team to the playoffs 2 years in a row and actually won a playoff game this year. He progressed, not regressed. Yes, the INTs are bad, but what he does when he's not throwing picks is pretty ridiculous.

And off the field, he's not blaming his WRs for his picks and he isn't getting into petty pissing matches with his coaches and dipshit fans. It's a little bit of a false equivalency to say he should be getting some heat too because he threw too many interceptions in his playoff games. If he's doing it in years 5 and beyond, it will start to define him. In year 2, it would look idiotic to grill him about it.[/quote]

INTS are INTS, you are not doing Andrew Luck any favors using a double standard. Eventually he will need to stop throwing INTS. Eventually means next year. INTS kill your team. That is why he be making come back wins against Jacksonville and Houston.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

[quote=Chico23231;1055458]Good god the offseason sucks, so RG3 sux now because he does commercials? come'on people, a ton of stupid since the end of the season[/quote]

I see more McD's commercials with Colin Gangsternick and Joe Flacco than Griffin commercials in total. Seems like they have a new one every month.

No one criticizes them for commercials. Flacco's team missed the playoffs after he started doing all of these commercials, going to blame Joe?

I don't even see many RGIII commercials anymore aside from him popping onto the screen for 2 seconds to say "Eat Fresh". The Adidas and Gatorade don't even show any more, at least where I live.

Re: Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs
 

"You can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody!"