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Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
Really Alex is a blessing in disguise. And really has put the team on a pace to win the NFC East.
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Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
[QUOTE=JPPT1974;1207179]Really Alex is a blessing in disguise. And really has put the team on a pace to win the NFC East.[/QUOTE]
You’ve gotta be joking. OUR DEFENSE is the reason we’re on pace to win the East, and the blessing in disguise. Smith has very little to do with our success. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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[QUOTE=kcVisitor;1196043]Alex Smith often doesnt let plays develop. He is quick to get the ball out to the short man. He comes off of his progressions WAY too fast, and often moves off of his primary or initial secondary target right before that player breaks open. Its maddening.
Regardless, year after year, Alex is below average at 3rd down conversion rate relative to his peers. High completion percentage. High passer rating. Low conversion percentage. Unfortunately, the conversion rate is the important part, and Alex has never been good at that.[/QUOTE] Pretty much exactly what I see every week. Maddening is a good word. Lol. You must be overjoyed at Mahomes. 9 teams going to be kicking themselves for years to come about not taking him. |
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Smith is very much a factor in our +11 turnover ratio
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[QUOTE=JPPT1974;1207179]Really Alex is a blessing in disguise. And really has put the team on a pace to win the NFC East.[/QUOTE]
Adrian Peterson, special teams, defense, o line - even the rag tag one. All much more valuable to this team than Smith. He basically just hands the ball off every play except sometimes it is a forward handoff of 4-8 yards. Lol. He aint shit. |
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[QUOTE=MTK;1207187]Smith is very much a factor in our +11 turnover ratio[/QUOTE]
And my empty refrigerator is very much a factor in my diet. If there aint nothing there i cant eat it. If there aint nothing there they cant intercept it. We have a very opportunistic defense and AP is having one of his better career years as far as fumbles go. Only 1. Smith panics alot and looks immediately for the checkdown. I really hope Gruden tells him to get a little more aggressive with the ball because we are going to need that dimension in our game if we are going to actually compete with the big boys. |
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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1197411]Yeah seems like u are bitter towards AS[/QUOTE]
Why in the hell would a Chiefs fan be bitter towards Smith? Hell no. They got Mahomes. If there is a Chiefs fan anywhere in the world who is bitter about Smith leaving Id like to meet him. So i can smack him. Lol Look, and this is not particularly directed at u Okie, but at all the people who think we are a better team with Smith at the helm..... We have a vastly improved defense. We have vastly improved special teams. We have a run game for the first time in a while. Those are the reasons we are 11-3. Not Alex fucking Smith. In no way does not having a deep ball game make you a better team. |
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Damn sure wish we were 11-3
If that happens I don’t want to hear squat about Smith |
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[quote=punch it in;1207190]Why in the hell would a Chiefs fan be bitter towards Smith? Hell no. They got Mahomes. If there is a Chiefs fan anywhere in the world who is bitter about Smith leaving Id like to meet him. So i can smack him. Lol
Look, and this is not particularly directed at u Okie, but at all the people who think we are a better team with Smith at the helm..... We have a vastly improved defense. We have vastly improved special teams. We have a run game for the first time in a while. Those are the reasons we are 11-3. Not Alex fucking Smith. In no way does not having a deep ball game make you a better team.[/quote] It sucks not having a passing game, I'm a fan of the deep ball too but its just not the 2018 redskins. Lets ride this out and see where this team ends up. What if we end up 12-4? 11-5? Who would have imagined that would even be possible? |
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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1207192]It sucks not having a passing game, I'm a fan of the deep ball too but its just not the 2018 redskins. Lets ride this out and see where this team ends up. What if we end up 12-4? 11-5? Who would have imagined that would even be possible?[/QUOTE]
It is not the 2018 Redskins because we have a D, a run game, and our special teams don’t turn special anymore. They execute. Im just not sure why there is this fallacy out there that none of that would be possible if we didn’t have a quarterback who was conservative out of necessity. He cannot do anything besides a real quick pass. I expected him to use his legs to keep plays alive and let our underwhelming wr’s - who were just as bad last year mind you - get separation. He doesn’t though. He rarely uses his legs at all. It doesn’t even have to be the deep ball, but he cannot hit alot of the intermediate stuff. Doesn’t even really try. If we do finish with some amazing record and it is done the same way we have won these 6 than I still want a quarterback. He does not change our defense. Three and outs hurt our defense and I think we are seeing that as the season grinds on. They get gassed. He does not change our special teams other than allowing Way to showcase his punting ability. AP or Guice when he comes back should be better if people were afraid of the passing game but they are not. It just doesn’t have to be a good d, run game, and st’s with no pass game or a pass game with none of the rest. Lol. Forget Cousins, ok, any quarterback that can help our pass game would be lethal with the way the rest of our team is playing. He would help the rest of the team be even better because of all the reasons I mentioned above. Look all I care about is winning really but winning consistently and beating good teams is just not realistic with a one dimensional offense. Look around the league. Saints, Rams, Chiefs, Steelers, Chargers, Bears even with Trubisky, Pats, Texans, Vikes. Those are the best teams and they all have quarterbacks that can throw it. We might have a banner day on defense or with the run and take one of them out but if we played those teams over and over we all know what the results would be and we all know why. |
ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
If it’s true and not a rumor, there’s articles floating around that the offensive players are no happy with the lack of offense and production either. They want to score points.
Obviously, the players feel the same way as the fans. How hilarious will it be if the offense gets tired of Smith holding them back? The only person who’s happy here is AP for obvious reasons. Anyone who thinks McCoy couldn’t get the offense to play at a MUCH higher level is foolish. AGAIN, we gave up a pick, Fuller and have 90 million for THIS? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Redskins are 6-3 and lead the division ,Smith is a good QB on a new team,learning a new system with new players to him anyway. I admit I am surprised at some of the hate towards him.
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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1207195]If it’s true and not a rumor, there’s articles floating around that the offensive players are no happy with the lack of offense and production either. They want to score points.
Obviously, the players feel the same way as the fans. How hilarious will it be if the offense gets tired of Smith holding them back? The only person who’s happy here is AP for obvious reasons. Anyone who thinks McCoy couldn’t get the offense to play at a MUCH higher level is foolish. AGAIN, we gave up a pick, Fuller and have 90 million for THIS? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] I would love to read those can you provide the link to them? |
ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
Let me ask the question this way. Was giving up a third round pick, Fuller, and 90 million worth this production? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Could McCoy have given this offense much more without giving up the above? ABSOLUTELY YES Go ahead and try to argue that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1207197]I would love to read those can you provide the link to them?[/QUOTE]
“Even with the victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Redskins were not satisfied. Players expressed frustration and concern, saying they could not keep playing this way. It’s time for us to put some points on the board,” Moses said, “and let the defense … not relax, but just take the game off their shoulders.” [url]https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/37625/a-look-at-the-redskins-path-to-an-nfc-east-title%3fplatform=amp[/url] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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There’s another article too I’m searching now for it
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[quote=Giantone;1207196]Redskins are 6-3 and lead the division ,Smith is a good QB on a new team,learning a new system with new players to him anyway. I admit I am surprised at some of the hate towards him.[/quote]
I suppose they would rather have Fitzpatrick who can throw for 400 yards and still mange to get a loss. |
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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1207195]If it’s true and not a rumor, there’s articles floating around that the offensive players are no happy with the lack of offense and production either. They want to score points.
Obviously, the players feel the same way as the fans. How hilarious will it be if the offense gets tired of Smith holding them back? The only person who’s happy here is AP for obvious reasons. Anyone who thinks McCoy couldn’t get the offense to play at a MUCH higher level is foolish. AGAIN, we gave up a pick, Fuller and have 90 million for THIS? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] Ok seriously what the fuck does everyone see in colt?? what has he ever done? |
Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
Where Alex Smith goes regular season success follows. Regardless of how he is playing he still has the team at 6-3.
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ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1207203]Where Alex Smith goes regular season success follows. Regardless of how he is playing he still has the team at 6-3.[/QUOTE]
No, the defense and AP have us at 6-3 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
Man we get it. Continuing bitching about Alex really doesn’t do much. I think everyone wants to see the passing game grow.
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1207196]Redskins are 6-3 and lead the division ,Smith is a good QB on a new team,learning a new system with new players to him anyway. I admit I am surprised at some of the hate towards him.[/QUOTE]
Well I would ask you two things. For a veteran quarterback who has had an entire camp, pre season, and 9 games at what point does learning the system become executing the system? Also I do not know how much you have watched, but from what you have seen were you actually impressed with his play? |
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1207205]Man we get it. Continuing bitching about Alex really doesn’t do much. I think everyone wants to see the passing game grow.[/QUOTE]
But will it grow with him? That is the question. Shit man you absolutely murder him on a weekly basis in the game threads. |
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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1207203]Where Alex Smith goes regular season success follows. Regardless of how he is playing he still has the team at 6-3.[/QUOTE]
Lol. This is why i cannot stop. He has the team at 6-3? He does? Or is the team 6-3 in spite of him because of our defense and run game? Come on man. He hands that ball off like an all pro. Cheers that D on like nobody’s business. Lol. |
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Im outta this thread. Im gonna go over to one of the political threads. Less divisive.
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207202]Ok seriously what the fuck does everyone see in colt?? what has he ever done?[/quote]
Can we add Trey Quinn to this list? Some people act like he's the next Gary Clark. |
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[quote=punch it in;1207208]Lol. This is why i cannot stop. He has the team at 6-3? He does? Or is the team 6-3 in spite of him because of our defense and run game? Come on man. He hands that ball off like an all pro. Cheers that D on like nobody’s business. Lol.[/quote]
Can't run the ball until someone hands it to you. And who doesn't like being cheered for?? |
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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1207202]Ok seriously what the fuck does everyone see in colt?? what has he ever done?[/QUOTE]
Nothing, but the backup is always the most popular QB in town Easy to call for a guy who’s realistically not going to play, you won’t be proven wrong! |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207202]Ok seriously what the fuck does everyone see in colt?? what has he ever done?[/quote]
Well he did have that one game in Dallas where we won.... But that game wasn't exactly won because of his dominance.... I agree with you though, it seems this has been a theme since the days of Ramsey/Wuerffel. Whenever the starting qb isn't putting out, fans always seem to think the backup can at least do better. Also keep in mind even if Alex Smith stinks, A. he doesn't turn the ball over, and B. He has a 90 million dollar contract. He has to be given every opportunity to succeed before we give up on him (which we won't, because point A is a huge factor in winning games this year). |
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To me it absolutely not about colt...it’s all about getting a young qb on the roster we can seriously develop...and not a late round pick
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I think this is really the only way this team can win. Run the ball, no turnovers and play defense. If Colt came in I have no question he'd probably move the offense better. But with that would come more turnovers/ sacks . And there is no way this team is good enough to take that on. So even though watching Smith play QB hurts my fucking eyeballs to death, it is probably best for the 2018 Redskins. But for the love of God draft a damn QB next year. It has to be priority #1.
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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1207213]Can't run the ball until someone hands it to you. And who doesn't like being cheered for??[/QUOTE]
True dat |
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[quote=punch it in;1207209]Im outta this thread. Im gonna go over to one of the political threads. Less divisive.[/quote]
I admit this had me LOL!:) |
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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1207199]“Even with the victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Redskins were not satisfied. Players expressed frustration and concern, saying they could not keep playing this way.
It’s time for us to put some points on the board,” Moses said, “and let the defense … not relax, but just take the game off their shoulders.” [url]https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/37625/a-look-at-the-redskins-path-to-an-nfc-east-title%3fplatform=amp[/url] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] JMHO but I think you're taking what was said a little out of context . Players always say they need to improve or we need to get better . Sometimes a win is ugly but it's a win . |
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All I know is that if I told you back in the pre-season we'd be 6-3 with a 2 game lead ahead of the Eagles everybody would have either A) Not believed me or B) been pumped and happy.
[B]That's our reality. Enjoy it. [/B] Yes, we need to improve, so does every other team in the NFL. Nobody is ever "complete." I'm honestly loving the fact that I can trash talk my friends again after a couple years. When was the last time you could say, "You are what your record is" and have that be a positive for us? Even during RG3's magical year we were 3-6 at one point. We might make it into the playoffs and get bounced week 1, sure. But that's not gonna keep me from enjoying the winning it takes [I]along the way[/I] to get there. |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;1207202]Ok seriously what the fuck does everyone see in colt?? what has he ever done?[/quote]
Colt is 1-3 here averaging 148 yards per start. I don't get all the Alex hate. He didn't get to bring his KC weapons with him and the Redskin receiving core was below average even before the injury bug hit. As it currently stands the Redskin receiving core is in the bottom of the NFL. |
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Guys Alex Smith is not gong anywhere for at least 2 more years. Colt Mccoy is a backup for a reason... If he was so good don't you think teams like Buffalo , Miami etc. would be calling? If Alex was costing us games then I would say maybe but he's been consistent, no turnovers and he scores in the RZ, (9 Tds - O Ints) . Its just because we are used to Kirk slinging it around the last 3 years.
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ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
Ok, again. If you knew ahead of time that you’d be giving up a 3rd round pick, Fuller, and 90 million for Smiths garbage ass play would you still do it knowing you’d get the same or better performance from McCoy who (by the way) knows this offense better than anyone at this point.
The answer is clearly NO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1207235]Colt is 1-3 here averaging 148 yards per start. I don't get all the Alex hate. He didn't get to bring his KC weapons with him and the Redskin receiving core was below average even before the injury bug hit. As it currently stands the Redskin receiving core is in the bottom of the NFL.[/quote]
"But Kirk did fine last yr" When in all reality Kirk had 20 turnovers damn near and as much as I liked the guy he padded most of those stats in late game situations. Yes he's the better passer but who is the better decision maker? |
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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1207237]Ok, again. If you knew ahead of time that you’d be giving up a 3rd round pick, Fuller, and 90 million for Smiths garbage ass play would you still do it knowing you’d get the same or better performance from McCoy who (by the way) knows this offense better than anyone at this point.
The answer is clearly NO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote] Fuller is playing AVG this yr, maybe it was Manusky that made him look so great? |
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