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[quote=MissouriSkin;1284482]Right....but it’s hard to state it as a rock solid fact like you do when you don’t necessarily know who was supposed to be doing what on any given play. Also looking at two games when the guy has played several years may not be an accurate sample size. For all we know he had a bum shoulder or something in those games and they told him to lay off heavy contact. 🤷*♂️ By all accounts we got a really good player, so I wouldn’t sweat it just yet.[/quote]

Agree with everything you said there. My point was to highlight something to keep an eye on, and be ready that this may be one of his weaknesses. The main point of my posts on him was to say how great a signing this looks to be.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1284483]Agree with everything you said there. My point was to highlight something to keep an eye on, and be ready that this may be one of his weaknesses. The main point of my posts on him where to say how great a signing this looks to be.[/quote]

Definitely something I'll be keeping an eye when the season starts. Hopefully it won't matter if our LB's and safeties can diag quick and move up on running plays.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1284479]I don't know how my posts come off. I'm a fan of this signing. I'm just saying on 2 games, the only knock I saw was he looked kinda of hesitant to go make a play on the ball carrier.[/QUOTE]Your post was fine, my nevermind was because i had written something but when i looked back at the play I was wrong. ( i thought a RB had leaked out the backside of the play for a potential reverse) All is good.

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I would bet plenty of corners shy away from contact at times. They're not the biggest dudes out there and they don't get paid for hitting.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284487]Your post was fine, my nevermind was because i had written something but when i looked back at the play I was wrong. ( i thought a RB had leaked out the backside of the play for a potential reverse) All is good.

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:food-smil

Looking forward to seeing him play. I just realized I posted more about the one little knock I saw on him than on the main thing that was how good his coverage looks!

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1284492]:food-smil

Looking forward to seeing him play. I just realized I posted more about the one little knock I saw on him than on the main thing that was how good his coverage looks![/quote]

Obviously the scouting report on him isn't big, physical corner who steps up in run defense.

If he can shut down WR's in the pass game that's good enough for me.

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[quote=MTK;1284491]I would bet plenty of corners shy away from contact at times. They're not the biggest dudes out there and they don't get paid for hitting.[/quote]

They also often don't reach contract incentives sitting on sidelines injured from trying to be LBs. A corner has to tackle, he doesn't have to hit. Huge difference.

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[quote=mooby;1284465]Come on man, being jacked =/= success in the NFL. Ask Laron Landry how that worked out for him.

If he can't learn technique or he gets injured all those weightlifting sessions aren't gonna help him make the team.[/quote]

Apples oranges. Takes much more than size, but Tebow is naturally a 220# or so guy in terms of natural body weight. No chance of playing TE in NFL at that size. He did what he had to and bulked up for his new position. Doesn't mean he is second coming of Tony Gonzalez, but is what you expect from high character guy like him. Keep in mind he is also a QB in a pinch, meaning you could keep 2 QBs if you dress him. I would not be surprised at all if he makes roster as #3 or #4 TE with intended use in some gimmick play packages where he throws. I think Meyer is only keeping him if he is truly one of top 53 players.

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And how do we know Tebow won't be a good ST player? Don't think anyone expects him to be #1 TE, but nothing says he can't make the team as depth.

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[quote=Scalper;1284546]Apples oranges. Takes much more than size, but Tebow is naturally a 220# or so guy in terms of natural body weight. No chance of playing TE in NFL at that size. He did what he had to and bulked up for his new position. Doesn't mean he is second coming of Tony Gonzalez, but is what you expect from high character guy like him. Keep in mind he is also a QB in a pinch, meaning you could keep 2 QBs if you dress him. I would not be surprised at all if he makes roster as #3 or #4 TE with intended use in some gimmick play packages where he throws. I think Meyer is only keeping him if he is truly one of top 53 players.[/quote]

Tebow's natural position based on body type is not a traditional TE, but an H-back like Gibbs used frequently.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1284548]And how do we know Tebow won't be a good ST player? Don't think anyone expects him to be #1 TE, but nothing says he can't make the team as depth.[/quote]

If he makes the team as a starter at TE that would be an indictment on all the other natural TE's on the roster.

You guys are acting like age isn't a thing. His ceiling as a 34yo player is lower than the ceilings of the younger TE's.

Sure he doesn't have the wear and tear most 34 yo's do, but rare is the player who gets better in their 30's.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1284491]I would bet plenty of corners shy away from contact at times. They're not the biggest dudes out there and they don't get paid for hitting.[/QUOTE]Accurate. Just something I've never been a fan of. And, one of the reasons I liked Breeland, agressive against screens and outside runs.
Don't care about big hits. But love to see a DB dive underneath a block and wrap a RB's ankles. I'm aware this is not their main job, and not the most important though.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1284552]Tebow's natural position based on body type is not a traditional TE, but an H-back like Gibbs used frequently.[/quote]

He's too slow to be a RB, LOL. Agree he's a bit small for TE though. He has the speed of a blocking TE but not the optimal size. You think of how many decent TEs we added to roster, not like Meyer just fell off turnip truck. He knows Tebow and must see something or know something that makes him think Tebow is at least 90th best.

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[quote=Scalper;1284559]He's too slow to be a RB, LOL. Agree he's a bit small for TE though. He has the speed of a blocking TE but not the optimal size. You think of how many decent TEs we added to roster, not like Meyer just fell off turnip truck. He knows Tebow and must see something or know something that makes him think Tebow is at least 90th best.[/quote]

It's marketing, Dude. Tebow is immensely popular in Jacksonville. He brings more attention and with it more earnings opportunities to the Jaguars. Anything they might get from him on the field is gravy.

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[quote=Scalper;1284559]He's too slow to be a RB, LOL. Agree he's a bit small for TE though. He has the speed of a blocking TE but not the optimal size. You think of how many decent TEs we added to roster, not like Meyer just fell off turnip truck. He knows Tebow and must see something or know something that makes him think Tebow is at least 90th best.[/quote]

My post said H-back like Gibbs used, not a RB. Chris Cooley is the example who came to mind of being used frequently and recently in that role.

Tebow's speed and Cooley's speed are comparable. Don't read more into my post than is there, but at least read the post.