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warriorzpath 05-12-2006 01:38 PM

H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
I just read a story on redskins.com:
[URL="http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17177"]http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17177[/URL]

In part of the story, it talks about Manuel White, Jr. relearning the fullback position in Saunders's offense instead of h-back, which he was learning last year with Gibbs's offense.

This makes me wonder if h-back as a position going to disappear in the redskins offense. In its place would be the true tight end and fullback positions.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-12-2006 01:43 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
From what I read, in rookie camp the Skins didn't run the H-back at all.

warriorzpath 05-12-2006 01:44 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
Wouldn't that be a major change ? H-back is the staple of a gibbs offense.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-12-2006 01:46 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
I don't think it would be major. It's also NOT a staple of Saunder's offense.

EXoffender 05-12-2006 01:48 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath]Wouldn't that be a major change ? H-back is the staple of a gibbs offense.[/quote]What you really want to say is, 'Is Cooley going to be omitted from the playbook?"

The anwser is no.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-12-2006 01:49 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
Basically Cooley moves to tight end and catches passes from there...

:oink:

warriorzpath 05-12-2006 01:50 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
What I mean is: doesn't this change signify that Saunders will have complete control of the offensive philosophy and game-planning as opposed to "most of the control" of the offense (like jordan's 99.9% chance of not returning from retirement).

Daseal 05-12-2006 01:53 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
warriorzpath -- we've already established that Saunders has free reign of the offense. He wouldn't have come if not. Saunders has had the number 1 offense numerous times and always in the top 5. I'll let him do whatever he wants.

warriorzpath 05-12-2006 01:59 PM

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[quote=Daseal]warriorzpath -- we've already established that Saunders has free reign of the offense. He wouldn't have come if not. Saunders has had the number 1 offense numerous times and always in the top 5. I'll let him do whatever he wants.[/quote]

I guess in my mind, I wasn't convinced that Saunders would be in total control of the offense. Of course I knew he could do what he wanted to do with the offense, but complete rein (sp) ? I wasn't so sure of (complete rein).

And to me, free reign and complete control are 2 different things. One being the ability to change anything you want to something, the other being yours and yours only.

warriorzpath 05-12-2006 02:04 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
This says to me that Saunders owns the offense and gibbs has major input. Before it could have been the other way around to me. But the article has basically said that it's Saunders's offense.

Warpath 05-12-2006 02:05 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
[QUOTE=warriorzpath]I guess in my mind, I wasn't convinced that Saunders would be in total control of the offense. Of course I knew he could do what he wanted to do with the offense, but complete rein (sp) ? I wasn't so sure of (complete rein).

And to me, free reign and complete control are 2 different things. One being the ability to change anything you want to something, the other being yours and yours only.[/QUOTE]

I think they are basically the same thing. I mean if Saunders "can do what he wants to with the offense" then Im assuming its his.

warriorzpath 05-12-2006 02:07 PM

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[quote=Warpath]I think they are basically the same thing. I mean if Saunders "can do what he wants to with the offense" then Im assuming its his.[/quote]

Semantics or not - to me it's like you being able to change what you want with my car. But at the end of the day my name is still on the title.

dirthogs311 05-12-2006 02:31 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
I dont think it will be a complete offensive overhaul. If theres anything we dont need its that. We dont really want that. The system could have got us to the Super Bowl last year, but we ran out of gas and we ran out of WR's in the end. There will still be some Gibbs plays. He is the head coach, if he doesnt like the play he will overule it and change it to whatever he wants. I think we will see a slow transition from Gibbs offense to Saunders', until Gibbs retires when Saunders will have total control and Williams is the head coach.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-12-2006 02:32 PM

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BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

dirthogs311 05-12-2006 02:36 PM

Re: H-back Position Disappearing ?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.[/quote]

Well thats not fair, he was injured, and I'm sure Gibbs did not want to take a chance with Pat Ramsey


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