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H4172teh5k1n5 01-12-2006 07:11 PM

The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
[i]Best Redskins rant I've read so far. Why is it that we get more and more criticism after each win? Most of the time when a team wins, they prove themselves. In our case it looks like people take our wins and find something wrong with the way we won that makes us look bad. [img]http://nflsmackdown.com/bb/images/smilies/bit-duh.gif[/img] [/i]

Remember when we were the worst 3-0 team in the history of the NFL?

ExtremeSkins Fan View: Hopeless In Seattle
By Arthur Mills
ExtremeSkins.com
January 12, 2006

How only those wearing a Redskins belt buckle believed we could win five straight to salvage anything and how in his second run with the team Joe Gibbs had the same record as Steve Spurrier through the same number of games coached?

Weren't we just so lucky to beat Tampa in the playoffs, leaving us no hope against Seattle?

I don't know about you, but, I almost can't wait until we're reminiscing about being the most awful Super Bowl champion ever. Hey, it could happen, as bad as we are.

So raise a glass. Wait, I'm talking to Redskins fans here, sorry. Hoist a can. Let's cheer our team on to continue sucking as much as they must. And, oh, they must. We keep hearing it. So many others can't be so wrong, so often. Right?

As fans we tend to read the media more than players, allowing us to come to grips with the completely pathetic nature of our team, a nature made all the more obvious by the fact the Redskins have won six straight and have now beaten each of the top four seeds in the NFC playoffs during the season or postseason.

But, really, what's all that mean when the media can shout, "They suck," and if ignored, shout, "They suck," again. Such highly persuasive positions tend to create something of a line in the sand, marking a barrier crossed repeatedly but never actually registering as crossed to those who drew the line.

The Redskins apparently now must call a press conference to apologize for even being in the league, much less the playoffs, much less the second round of the playoffs for generating just 120 yards of offense in a victory.

You see, teams with such terrible offensive performances are not judged at all by being the No. 11 offense in football over the course of the season playing one of the most difficult schedules in football. Teams aren't judged by being the No. 13 scoring team. Teams are ONLY judged by one side of the team, on the road, in the playoffs, against the favorite, in a win when only 120 yards of offense is in the books.

Such performances spell certain doom.

Please don't mention the Baltimore Ravens. Sure, they won the Super Bowl in 2000 after putting up just 134 yards of offense against Tennessee. Yeah, the Titans held the ball in that game 40:29. Still, it's not like defense wins championships or anything.

One analyst for ESPN actually went so far as to declare the Redskins offense as the biggest disappointment in the playoffs to this point. You know we're horrible when we're a greater disappointment in the playoffs after a win on the road when evaluated against competition like the shutout New York Giants and blown out Jacksonville Jaguars.

This analyst didn't actually explain how a team he consistently panned all year, dismissing it repeatedly with chortles, chuckles, laughter and askance looks, could actually prove much of a disappointment at all.

He didn't have to. He was convincingly able to reject any chance of victory in Seattle with the compelling argument going something like, "You don't really think they can beat Seattle, do you?" when someone else on set had the temerity to hint the Redskins might not lose 100-0 in Seattle. Who can argue with that? That's professional analysis. I'm just a fan. I'm out of my league for sure.

The only known counter for the "You don't really think..." argument is, "Why not."

As the Redskins load up to bus out to the airport heading to Seattle, taking special care not to clip any of the analysts on their 600-mile walking tour of the Beltway after guaranteeing the team wouldn't make the playoffs else they'd walk from thither to fro, I find myself feeling most sorry for the players and coaching staff of this team.

I get we aren't any good right now and have no hope in the future.

I watched Mark Schlereth, former Redskin, tell us the return of Bill Parcells to the Cowboys immediately makes them the prohibitive favorite for the NFC East crown next year. The coach returning from the third-place team he just coached has a far better team to lead than the team that beat his twice and finished ahead of his.

You know the future is dim when you're already dropping behind a team you just finished ahead of simply because the same guy is returning to coach the same team. That's some stiff improvement to counter there to be certain. Maybe we can move to L.A. or something? Start fresh? We eat Baja Fresh, I hear.

All ExtremeSkins fans realize this game is completely no problem for Seattle because even the kicker of the Seahawks came out and said it would be no problem this week. When you're getting trash talk from a kicker, really, how much worse can your team be?

I feel bad for our team because I don't think they know how bad they are yet.

Running off the field in Tampa, Rock Cartwright shouted to me this team keeps finding a way to win. He seemed strangely happy. He didn't feel the bite of disappointment he should have after a win. Walt Harris told me the will to keep fighting and keep making key play after key play is instilled in this team. Such a trait is also called luck when it is accomplished by our team we've seen explained.

On the sidelines during the game, Marcus Washington was shouting about the tough, physical nature of this team. Or, put differently, this team is tired and beat up. This team gives the impression of a team that has begun to figure out the difference between being a winning team and being a team talking about winning at the same time the media talks about a winning team like the predicted 4-12 one.

In the press box after the game, ESPN columnist Len Pasquarelli asserts the Redskins can never win another Super Bowl with Joe Gibbs as the coach prior to polishing off a post-game article that doesn't mention the head coach of the team a single time. Like he's perfectly ordinary.

You know how much difficulty Gibbs has creating a winning environment, right?

One Redskins player said he loved playing for Gibbs because when things went poorly the coach took all the blame, yet when they went well, he gave all the praise to the players. How do you win in an environment like that? Seems impossible, doesn't it?

Just like this game against Seattle seems so impossible.

Having played the league's easiest schedule, the Seahawks are certainly battle-tested and ready for anything that could happen in the playoffs. Having played 11 games (including the postseason) against teams with winning records, the Redskins can't possibly be prepared. Can they? Having played teams with a 48-25 home record (including postseason) it is just not reasonable to surmise the Redskins will be handle terrible ferocity of the home crowd in Seattle.

This is Seattle we're talking about. Nothing caws out home-field advantage like Seattle.

To imagine a win in Seattle, you'd have to imagine the Redskins have been in position to win all but one game this year. That the team plays with a character and chemistry not seen in Washington in more than a decade. That there is top-level talent and production at running back, wide receiver, tight end and defensively on this team.

You'd almost have to let yourself believe all this is true.

The only people who'd agree with you are members of this Redskins team.

Hmm...

You know. I think I'm okay with that.

Sammy Baugh Fan 01-12-2006 07:14 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
~raises can of Beer in heart felt Cheer!

Hail Skins!

RedskinRat 01-12-2006 07:16 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
Nice....where's it from?

H4172teh5k1n5 01-12-2006 07:17 PM

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It's from the 'Skins homepage [url="http://www.redskins.com"]www.redskins.com[/url]

RedskinRat 01-12-2006 07:19 PM

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Thanks, got it just as you replied. It's also on a previous post.

Warpath 01-12-2006 07:24 PM

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Yea I read that one as well. Its originally from Extremeskins. Great job mystery writer. I raise my beer can to you as well.

PFunk26 01-12-2006 07:55 PM

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That Was Awesome!!!!

Redskins 01-12-2006 07:57 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
I already posted this in another forum, but since the topic is "rant", it's really more appropriate to identify it here.

Below is a song from Chris Paul on WPGC, a DC-local radio station. The clip has video and sound. Personally, I think this "rant" ain't bad either.

[url="http://www.rlconsultingonline.com/skinsclip.wmv"]http://www.rlconsultingonline.com/skinsclip.wmv[/url]

ExtremeArt 01-12-2006 08:01 PM

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Thanks guys. Someone messaged me at ES that you guys were talking about this here. Appreciate you reading it and those who enjoyed it I'm glad too :).

Cheers.

onlydarksets 01-12-2006 08:02 PM

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Well said...er, ranted!

BigSKINBauer 01-12-2006 08:19 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
This was a really good one. I enjoy all of them but this one just showed that we are ALWAYS gonna be the underdog and that is exactly how i like it. **** em SEAHAGS!!!!

road to 7 in a row

Riggo44 01-12-2006 08:45 PM

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Nice. Some pretty good points made there.

44deisel44 01-12-2006 09:08 PM

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GREAT JOB!!!! and welcome!!:food-smil

44deisel44 01-12-2006 10:12 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
[QUOTE=Redskins]I already posted this in another forum, but since the topic is "rant", it's really more appropriate to identify it here.

Below is a song from Chris Paul on WPGC, a DC-local radio station. The clip has video and sound. Personally, I think this "rant" ain't bad either.

[url="http://www.rlconsultingonline.com/skinsclip.wmv"]http://www.rlconsultingonline.com/skinsclip.wmv[/url][/QUOTE]
Let the man have his props. Why not here?

Daryl Elite 01-12-2006 11:31 PM

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I read that earlier. Redskins.com is actually a really nice site and updated regularly for being "the official site." They have new video on Redskins.comTV every day...

Cooley 350Z 01-12-2006 11:40 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
Really nice, welcome! I just watched the first Dallas highlights like 6 times, I'm so amped!!! I can't wait to fly to Seattle tomorrow! HAIL...

Daryl Elite 01-12-2006 11:46 PM

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Have an extra ticket (more like tickets since I'll need one for the plane and one for the game...)

I watched that Dallas highlights video tonight as well, heh.

70Chip 01-13-2006 12:00 AM

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[QUOTE=Daryl Elite]Have an extra ticket (more like tickets since I'll need one for the plane and one for the game...)

I watched that Dallas highlights video tonight as well, heh.[/QUOTE]


When I first read that I didn't realize it was a question. I was ready to pack my bags.

RedskinPete 01-13-2006 04:13 AM

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My fourteen year old son came home from school telling me about the shit he getting over the Xmas gifts he was given [many Redskins stuff]!!! :duel: His new hats are his thing along with a Terp sweet shrit! Anyway living out here on the left coast in Nor Cal even thought we live in Raider and 49er area :laughing2 the Seahawks fans are coming out of the woodwork! He is the only Skin fan at his school. It's a fact that the Redskins will lose and the Hawks will be at home for the NFC Championship game in many Hawks fans mines out here!!! His friends say things like the Bucs are not the Seahawks or this game is going to be a blow out!!! He the AM stations out here in Sac and KNBR in SF say give the points[9] and pick Seattle! It's funny you still hear the Gibbs is to old and the same about Burnell! The D is over rated and Portis is one hit away from being out!!! I can't wait to see what that old guy Gibbs dose to Seattle!!!! Going to be fun!!! :food-smil

irish 01-13-2006 07:25 AM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]This was a really good one. I enjoy all of them but this one just showed that we are ALWAYS gonna be the underdog and that is exactly how i like it. **** em SEAHAGS!!!!

road to 7 in a row[/QUOTE]


Of course the redskins are going to be the underdog in these playoffs, they are the lowest seed. That does not mean they cant win but I just dont understand why everyone is so upset that the skins were an underdog last week and again this week. Even if they were the #2 seed playing #1 this week in seattle they'd be dogs. If they win it all this year they wont be dogs next but until then they will have to put up with the role.

ArtMonkDrillz 01-13-2006 07:57 AM

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I don't think people are mad that we're the underdogs; I think everyone understands why that is. What is annoying is the fact that it seems like every analyst and talking head out there is completely trashing this team and basically saying that we suck and are lucky to be in this position. We are the true fans, that's why we tend to talk more about the other issues at play during this game (like the strength of schedule and quality wins) and less about the obvious facts like home field advantage and the bye week. We believe in this team because we have seen what it is capible of.

We just beat the top rated D on the road and people are complaining because our offense didn't do enough? So what? 120 total yards in a win IS STILL A WIN, just like 400 total yards in a loss is still a loss! So I say let people keep doubting these Redskins. Let the seahawks kicker ("... the kick is up, and it hits the upright! This game is going to overtime!) say whatever he wants. Let the ESPN 'experts' throw gas on the fire that is Gregg Williams. Sure it pisses us fans off, but it also seems to get this team pumped.

The point is, it seems like everyone is discounting what this team has actually accomplished over the past season, and a lot of us are sick of it. I'm a realist, I know that the playoffs are obviously an ongoing uphill battle for the Skins and I know that it would be a huge turn-around for us to make it to or win the Super Bowl. However, I also know that this team has absolutely earned the respect of everyone in the league, and I hope that Gibbs and Williams and all the players never stop fighting until they force it out of the last of these doubters.

6 down, 3 more to go...

skindogger47 01-13-2006 12:23 PM

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Man I hope we drop 35 on the Seahawks. Great article.

hesscl34 01-13-2006 02:44 PM

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Got this one off the web... great article!!

Ten reasons why the Redskins can beat the Seahawks.

1) Excluding their meaningless late-season games with the Colts and Packers (W and L, respectively), the Seahawks have played four teams with a winning record and have split those contests. The Redskins, meanwhile, have played eleven teams with a winning record and are 6-5 in those games.

2) The Seahawks two wins against teams with winning records came via monumental gaffes by their opponents. In week 7 against Dallas, Drew Bledsoe threw an ill-advised last-second interception that set up a game-winning Seattle FG. Five weeks later, in another home game against an NFC East opponent, Giants kicker Jay Feely missed three makeable FGs in the 4th quarter and overtime. Don't tell me Seattle is invincible at home.

3) In his nine games against teams with records worse than 6-10, Alexander is averaging 131.1 yards and 2.33 touchdowns. In four games against teams with winning records, Shaun Alexander is averaging 85.5 yards and .5 touchdowns. If A. Rod doesn't play in the World Baseball Classic, maybe Shaun A. could take his place, seeing as they both love piling up stats against inferior opponents but never seem to get it done in big games.

4) Everyone talks about how difficult it is to win a Wild Card and Divisional Playoff game on the road. And they're right. Only twice since the NFL expanded to a 12-team playoff in 1990 have teams won road games in the first two rounds of the playoffs. The last team to do it was the 1996 Jacksonville Jaguars. Their quarterback? Mark Brunell.

5) Joe Gibbs has a career 18-5 record in the playoffs and is 19-4 in games played in January.

6) The Seahawks franchise has not won a playoff game since 1984, the longest such current drought in the NFL. Under Holmgren, Seattle is 0-3 in the playoffs, including a home-loss last season to the underdog St. Louis Rams.

7) Mike Holmgren is a very good coach, but he hasn't won a playoff game without Brett Favre. Joe Gibbs, on the other hand, is a very great coach and has won playoff games and Super Bowls with Jay Schroeder, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien.

8) Seattle tackle Walter Jones is one of, if the not the, best offensive lineman in football. This should help quell Philip Daniels, but the strength of the Redskins d-line is not on the outside but in the middle with Cornelius Griffin and Joe Salave'a.

9) The Redskins have played four "rematch" games this season (Dallas, New York, Tampa Bay and Philadelphia). In the first games against those teams, Washington was outscored 95-66. In the rematches, it was Washington that did the outscoring: 118-57. Gibbs took them from a 29-point deficit to a 61-point advantage, which leads me to #10, the most important fact on this list:

10) Week 3: Washington 20 - Seattle 17. It's one thing to think the Redskins won't win. But to think they can't, especially in light of the fact they've already beaten Seattle this season, is absurd.

ArtMonkDrillz 01-13-2006 02:51 PM

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[i]Joe Gibbs, on the other hand, is a very great coach and has won playoff games and Super Bowls with Jay Schroeder, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien[/i]

Gibbs won with Theismann, not Schroeder. Williams took over for Schroeder that year. Come on man, I was 4 or 5 at the time and I knew that.

Good post otherwise. Hail!

hesscl34 01-13-2006 02:55 PM

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... don't blame me..that came from Redskins.com!! :) Point is, he did it with different QBs!

onlydarksets 01-13-2006 02:55 PM

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[QUOTE=hesscl34]
3) In his nine games against teams with records worse than 6-10, Alexander is averaging 131.1 yards and 2.33 touchdowns. In four games against teams with winning records, Shaun Alexander is averaging 85.5 yards and .5 touchdowns. If A. Rod doesn't play in the World Baseball Classic, maybe Shaun A. could take his place, seeing as they both love piling up stats against inferior opponents but never seem to get it done in big games.[/QUOTE]

I really don't want the Skins to be the team Alexander breaks out of his post-season funk against!

MTK 01-13-2006 02:59 PM

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz][i]Joe Gibbs, on the other hand, is a very great coach and has won playoff games and Super Bowls with Jay Schroeder, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien[/i]

Gibbs won with Theismann, not Schroeder. Williams took over for Schroeder that year. Come on man, I was 4 or 5 at the time and I knew that.

Good post otherwise. Hail![/QUOTE]

The article says he won playoff games AND Super Bowls with Theismann. Schroeder, Williams and Rypien.

Schroeder didn't win a SB, but he did win playoff games.

ArtMonkDrillz 01-13-2006 03:03 PM

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My mistake. Must be the 5 Dr. Peppers and the anticipation of tomorrow.

firstdown 01-13-2006 03:10 PM

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I love when people say Portis is one hit away from being knock out of a game. What they don't know is much about Betts and the ROCK! If I knew we were starting the game without Portis I would not have any problem with the one two punch these guys give us.

Monk-Fan 01-13-2006 08:29 PM

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I love Clinton but i dont think we miss that much with Betts in there if Clinton gets hurt. Does anyone, besides us, realize what a bruising RB Betts is?

4mrusmc 01-13-2006 08:32 PM

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Hey guys our next home game will be in Detriot. And, all of the nonbelievers who will come out of the wood-work to get on our TIP can just stay the hell away! Beat that booty Skins!!!!!!!!!!

Sammy Baugh Fan 01-13-2006 08:37 PM

Re: The best 'Skins rant I've heard this year!!!
 
I'm not great at checking all threads but I think the NFC is Home Team this year.

Am I right Summo or Poster?

If/WHEN Skins make it to Super Bowl this year we will be HOME TEAM.

hesscl34 01-13-2006 10:14 PM

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We Are Going To The Show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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