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redrock-skins 01-15-2006 04:21 PM

Colts/Steelers Thoughts
 
Wow. Hell of a way to win or lose in that game. "Idiot kicker" indeed.

saden1 01-15-2006 04:24 PM

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13-0 start? How about One and Done!

Was it just me or was that Spurrier's offense the Colts were running? No protection at all!

cpayne5 01-15-2006 04:24 PM

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Man, I was really rooting for the Colts here. The guy that gives me the most crap about the Skins is supposedly a Steelers fan (he cares more about the Skins losing than his own team). Ugh.

BigSKINBauer 01-15-2006 04:25 PM

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[QUOTE=cpayne5]Man, I was really rooting for the Colts here. The guy that gives me the most crap about the Skins is supposedly a Steelers fan (he cares more about the Skins losing than his own team). Ugh.[/QUOTE]
exactly the same for me. EXACTLY!! i have a steeler friend just like that. Man i wanted him to take it back from the bettis fumble. That would be really cool to see something like that.

redrock-skins 01-15-2006 04:26 PM

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We went as far as the Colts did. If we lost like that, I'd be floating in the Puget Sound right now.

SC Skins Fan 01-15-2006 04:27 PM

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[QUOTE=redrock-skins]Wow. Hell of a way to win or lose in that game. "Idiot kicker" indeed.[/QUOTE]

I don't have a nickel in it and haven't seen a replay yet, but on first glance it looked like the snap was a bit low and Hunter Smith had a little bit of difficulty getting the ball down. Just a reminder about how important all three players - snapper, holder, and kicker - are to making a successful kick.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-15-2006 04:28 PM

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That was an amazing game. I picked the Colts to win and was shocked. The Colts would have won if their play-calling wasn't so conservative. j/k :)

mooby 01-15-2006 04:32 PM

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yeah i'd rather washington lose the way they did rather than the way the colts did. When bettis fumbled my first thought was, oh snap it's gonna be the colts in the championship game.

SeasonTicketHolder 01-15-2006 04:32 PM

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the Colts shouldn't even have been in that position to tie it. Troy definitely picked that off. Refs were a little fishy all game, hmmmm.

Daryl Elite 01-15-2006 04:34 PM

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I picked the Steelers. Phewf. That was a great game. I can't believe Vanderjagt missed the most important field goal of his career.

SC Skins Fan 01-15-2006 04:36 PM

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[QUOTE=SeasonTicketHolder]the Colts shouldn't even have been in that position to tie it. Troy definitely picked that off. Refs were a little fishy all game, hmmmm.[/QUOTE]

I think it was the same rule in play that worked for the Skins when Edell Sheppard did not control the ball when he hit the ground in the Tampa game. I'd have to look at the official rules that was a close call. I do agree that the officials were pretty suspect all day, though.

MTK 01-15-2006 04:37 PM

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Wow, great game, great ending!

I really felt bad for Bettis when he fumbled, he's one of the leagues real good guys, nice to see that mistake didn't cost them their season.

Hail2em 01-15-2006 05:32 PM

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great game and the steelers deserve it but i dont know what they were thinking after they got the ball on the 2 after the colts missed it on 4th and 16 then they run the ball??????? kneel on it let the colts use their timeouts at worst they kick a field goal go up by 6 and the colts would have to score a TD with not alot of time and no timeouts. Steelers got lucky seems like they didnt want to win it that bad. colts had their chances. also if harper doesnt make that move to the inside he scores. he could have ran right by Ben without the cut inside move.

bertoskins 01-15-2006 05:37 PM

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wasted season by the near perfect colts
steelers though is much like us
and they succeed this round

redwagonskins 01-15-2006 05:49 PM

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idiot kicker!!! the irony of the guy calling out Peyton as a choker barely gets it between the pylons in the endzone, nevermind the goal posts.

Daryl Elite 01-15-2006 06:01 PM

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The call to Bettis wasn't a bad call. Indy had all of its timeouts left so they couldn't kneel it. Also, what are the odds of Bettis fumbling, anyway?

hooskins 01-15-2006 06:08 PM

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I am glad the Steelers won, they deserved it the entire game.

htownskinfan 01-15-2006 06:29 PM

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[QUOTE=Hail2em]great game and the steelers deserve it but i dont know what they were thinking after they got the ball on the 2 after the colts missed it on 4th and 16 then they run the ball??????? kneel on it let the colts use their timeouts at worst they kick a field goal go up by 6 and the colts would have to score a TD with not alot of time and no timeouts. Steelers got lucky seems like they didnt want to win it that bad. colts had their chances. also if harper doesnt make that move to the inside he scores. he could have ran right by Ben without the cut inside move.[/QUOTE]

no shit they should have knelt on it ,terrible coaching,and what was bettis doing not having both hands wrapped around the ball,what an idiot,I never have liked him,he gets up off the ground after a 10 yrd run huffing and puffing and stomping his feet likes hes the greatest running back of all time when the hole was so big you could drive a bus through it,(maybe thats why hes called the bus)I wish they would have lost on that play.Having said all that,the steelers would have been majorly robbed if they would have lost that game,that was def an interception,than the nocall on 4th down when the refs said there was a no play when the colts came offsides,I've never seen that before,and vanderjet,wtf? worst kick ever

skinsttw 01-15-2006 09:53 PM

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I am glad to see the Colts go down-- now I think a few people will get off their bandwagon. Good to see the underdogs advance-- Go Steelers and Panthers.
It would be fun to see the Panthers/Steelers in the Super Bowl. I think both teams have a good shot. Plummer will choke and the Seahawks are overrated.

dblanch66 01-15-2006 11:46 PM

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What about all the so called "experts" who picked Indy to go all the way. They were talking like it was a foregone conclusion that the Colts would be there. Dickheads like Tom Jackson, Salisbury, Stinky, Clayton, P. King etc. What a bunch of LOSERS. Chris Carter is a bet whelcher as is Salisbury. I hate those idiots who make these grand statements and then when it doesn't go the way they call it, they act as though they were thinking the other way all along. Like we, the audience are that friggin' stupid. One final note: Dierdorf makes me want to :vomit: He SUCKS as a commentator.

mooby 01-15-2006 11:53 PM

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I believe the Steelers made the right call when they were on the Colts 2 yard line. Jerome Bettis is normally one of the most reliable runners in football when it comes to not fumbling. If he had scored a touchdown it would've put the game out of reach, instead of kneeling 3 times, kicking a field goal, and giving the best offense in football a minute and 3 timeouts to go down the field and score a touchdown that would've put them ahead by one. I'm not saying that would happen, but what were the chances of Bettis fumbling before he got across the goal line?

That Guy 01-16-2006 12:20 AM

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i believe that was bettis's first fumble of the season... either way the steelers played better all game... indy needs a better oline for mad blitzing 3-4s, they went 1-2 this year against them.

Master4Caster 01-16-2006 02:11 AM

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Glad I'm not a Colts fan, although I do feel bad for Tony Dungy. I bet the pissing and moaning on the Colts discussion board dwarfs anything you'll read in DC.

htownskinfan 01-16-2006 08:42 AM

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[QUOTE=mooby]I believe the Steelers made the right call when they were on the Colts 2 yard line. Jerome Bettis is normally one of the most reliable runners in football when it comes to not fumbling. If he had scored a touchdown it would've put the game out of reach, instead of kneeling 3 times, kicking a field goal, and giving the best offense in football a minute and 3 timeouts to go down the field and score a touchdown that would've put them ahead by one. I'm not saying that would happen, but what were the chances of Bettis fumbling before he got across the goal line?[/QUOTE]

there was a minute left on the clock when pitts was at the goal line,indy would have had to burn all its timeouts to stop the clock,so they would have got the ball back with maybe 30 seconds and no timeouts,and if your going to go for the td,bettis has got to cradle the football with 2 hands!!

skinsttw 01-16-2006 09:16 AM

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Steelers had the better game plan and they came to play. Colts were flat from the opening kickoff and were out of sync most of the day. Even the refs couldn't help them enough.

mheisig 01-16-2006 09:19 AM

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I think Peyton Mannig is pretty much the most incredible QB the NFL has ever seen, and a real class act to boot.

After yesterday's game I felt really bad for him, as it seems he's on his way to becoming nothing but a joke in NFL history. "The greatest player to never get to a Super Bowl." For a football player that's about the worst thing imagineable. Every stat, every record, a command of the game second to none, and he just can't get there.

You could see it on his face when Vanderjagt missed the field goal. A disappointed smile. That's about all you can do - it's at a point where the Colts are becoming a joke, the farce of the NFL every time playoff season rolls around.

I just hate seeing guys like Dungy and Manning, Harrison and Wayne keep coming up short when it matters most. - guys who seem to really epitomize what football is all about, guys who are humble and professional and at the same time some of the best at what they do in the history of the NFL.

MTK 01-16-2006 09:44 AM

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The refs were just horrible in this game. That pick that was called incomplete was one of the worst calls of the year.

Hog1 01-16-2006 10:38 AM

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I don't really have any investment in that game. however, I am glad Bettis does not have to be responsible for the loss (should it have happened) on his potential retirement!

gortiz 01-16-2006 10:46 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Wow, great game, great ending!

I really felt bad for Bettis when he fumbled, he's one of the leagues real good guys, nice to see that mistake didn't cost them their season.[/QUOTE]

I did not want Jerome's career to end like that man ... he does not deserve it. Also, Cowher is a great coach and he is over due.

saden1 01-16-2006 10:53 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]The refs were just horrible in this game. That pick that was called incomplete was one of the worst calls of the year.[/QUOTE]

1. No one touched him.
2. The ground didn't cause a fumble.
3. He LOST the ball before making a football move.

I thought the call was on the spot. In all honestly that wasn't a fumble and if it isn't a fumble it's an incomplete pass!

firstdown 01-16-2006 10:59 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]The refs were just horrible in this game. That pick that was called incomplete was one of the worst calls of the year.[/QUOTE]I agree totaly with you and the Colts should have never had that second chance in the game. They where beat in every part of the game and the Ref's even tried to help them. I will be real intrested to hear the head of the Ref's explain this call on the NFL network.

cpayne5 01-16-2006 11:09 AM

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[QUOTE=saden1]1. No one touched him.
2. The ground didn't cause a fumble.
3. He LOST the ball before making a football move.

I thought the call was on the spot. In all honestly that wasn't a fumble and if it isn't a fumble it's an incomplete pass![/QUOTE]
I tend to agree with you.

I think that in this situation, you have to look at Polamalu's entire string of actions. He caught the ball, fell, and rolled. The ball came out during the roll; the knee was down.

I agree that it was sketchy, but also think that, cosidering the rule, was called correctly during the review.

hurrykaine 01-16-2006 11:21 AM

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The Indianapolis Chokes! No matter how they light it up during the regular season, and P. Manning is one of my favorite QBs to watch, one can't ignore the fact that they have choked in the playoffs for the last 4 years now. Pity!

jbcjr14 01-16-2006 11:24 AM

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Props to Cowher and his crew....this team is always in contention and they schemed the Colts right out of the playoffs. Steelers=DEFENSE and we all know that DEFENSE wins championships.

hurrykaine 01-16-2006 11:28 AM

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[QUOTE=firstdown]I agree totaly with you and the Colts should have never had that second chance in the game. They where beat in every part of the game and the Ref's even tried to help them. I will be real intrested to hear the head of the Ref's explain this call on the NFL network.[/QUOTE]

Don't know if you noticed how the refs in the other game were just trying to hand it to Chicago. They called a TD for T. Jones when he clearly let the ball out of his hand well before he crossed the goal-line. Didn't call a clear delay of game on Chicago's offense - funny how Grossman threw a pick on that very play to end Chicago's hopes.

irish 01-16-2006 01:46 PM

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[QUOTE=cpayne5]I tend to agree with you.

I think that in this situation, you have to look at Polamalu's entire string of actions. He caught the ball, fell, and rolled. The ball came out during the roll; the knee was down.

I agree that it was sketchy, but also think that, cosidering the rule, was called correctly during the review.[/QUOTE]

It was the correct call. The rule says that the player has to maintain control of the ball while on the ground, his knee was still on the ground when the ball popped out so technically he was still on the ground. A stupid rule (like the tuck rule) but thats the way its worded.

I think Indy thought they had become a physical football team but the Steelers showed them what physical football is. I think the Steelers are a real threat to go all the way.

mheisig 01-16-2006 09:42 PM

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Actually the call was a mistake and the NFL admitted it today:

[URL=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5252682?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5]NFL: Polamalu call was a mistake[/URL]

djnemo65 01-16-2006 09:59 PM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]exactly the same for me. EXACTLY!! i have a steeler friend just like that. Man i wanted him to take it back from the bettis fumble. That would be really cool to see something like that.[/QUOTE]

I got one of those also!!! Freaking Steelers fans.

djnemo65 01-16-2006 10:00 PM

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[QUOTE=irish]It was the correct call. The rule says that the player has to maintain control of the ball while on the ground, his knee was still on the ground when the ball popped out so technically he was still on the ground. A stupid rule (like the tuck rule) but thats the way its worded.

I think Indy thought they had become a physical football team but the Steelers showed them what physical football is. I think the Steelers are a real threat to go all the way.[/QUOTE]

The NFL ruled today that it was an incorrect call


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