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[b]Redskins | Team meeting with Saunders Thursday[/b]
Thu, 19 Jan 2006 05:46:58 -0800

Jerry McDonald, of the Oakland Tribune, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl">[color=#0000ff]Kansas City Chiefs[/color] offensive coordinator [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/7811/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Al Saunders[/color][/url] was scheduled to meet with the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/color][/url] Thursday, Jan, 19, for a lucrative position as assistant head coach and offensive coordinator, an [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl"][color=#0000ff]NFL[/color][/url] source said. Saunders could receive an offer from the deep pockets of Washington owner Daniel Snyder that would exceed what he could make as the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Oakland Raiders[/color][/url] head coach.

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Wow, this would be a very interesting acquisition!

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Totally Interesting. One of the hallmarks of Gibbs career with the Skins and with other pursuits, is his innovation. You never know what he has up his sleeve. Can't wait to see how this plays out!

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Did Gibbs ever use a O cordinator in the past?

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you can't fault KC's offense ;) this pickup could be beyond killer... it'd be funny if we ended up with 3 coaches making 10mill a year between them.

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Wow. Saunders is the guy I had wanted as our coach when Spurrier left....before Gibbs decided to come back. Interesting to note that Saunders and Gibbs were on the coaching staff together at USC in the early 70s.

It begs the question though, is someone leaving? Adding Musgrave and Saunders in back to back years and nobody going seems like a bit much. Could Breaux be retiring?

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I wonder if Al Davis would overpay him to keep him away from us just out of spite? He seems like the type!

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[QUOTE=amorentz]I wonder if Al Davis would overpay him to keep him away from us just out of spite? He seems like the type![/QUOTE]Thats part of the game and what we cheered Snyder for doing with Williams.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]Did Gibbs ever use a O cordinator in the past?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Dan Henning...now w/Carolina. And Don Breaux, our current OC, worked with Gibbs in the past.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]Thats part of the game and what we cheered Snyder for doing with Williams.[/QUOTE]

I know, I was saying that he would do that as revenge for Williams!

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Sounds like a great move. When Joe Gibbs retire, Gregg Williams will take over as head-coach and oversee the defense. Then, he won't have to look for an O-coordinator. Al Saunders can oversee the offense.

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[QUOTE=Kevikazi]Sounds like a great move. When Joe Gibbs retire, Gregg Williams will take over as head-coach and oversee the defense. Then, he won't have to look for an O-coordinator. Al Saunders can oversee the offense.[/QUOTE]

That's if Al Saunders actually comes here....and if Gregg Williams actually takes over one day.

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I for got about Don Breaux but does he realy play the tradional role as OC? I thought that Gibbs was acting more as OC.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]I for got about Don Breaux but does he realy play the tradional role as OC? I thought that Gibbs was acting more as OC.[/QUOTE]

Could be but I think Don B. has the official title, if you will.

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I would welcome the idea of Al Saunders being the OC. But that would mean we'd have to get rid of someone in the staff wouldn't it?

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I would welcome the idea of Al Saunders being the OC. But that would mean we'd have to get rid of someone in the staff wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]

Maybe...maybe not since there's no salary cap for coaches and staff. We could keep everyone.

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Cooley = young Tony G?

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[QUOTE=drew54]Cooley = young Tony G?[/QUOTE]

Naw...Cooley is better:)

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What I like about this potential move is Saunders comes from the same school of thought that Gibbs does. Power running game, big plays from the passing game, a move like this could only help to further develop the offense!

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Agreed, this is a very intriguing move. Hopefully if this works out our offense can catch up with the defense a bit as opposed to using them like a crutch. Imagine how dangerous we could be if we were that potent on both sides of the ball.

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This move would definitely improve the offense.

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Wow! I love love love love love this move! I hope it's true, but the real question is how long can we keep Saunders out of head coaching!

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It's a COOL way to start the off-season! The best thing is Snyder is not in the habit of losing deals like this to other teams.

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Wasnt it like this time last year when we got Musgrave? I mean like the first week after our season ended, not date wise. If you think about it, if Gibbs does want him, I am sure that he would want him here ASAP to start looking things over for the begininng of next season.

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what exactly is musgraves job?coach gibbs calls the plays,musgrave is the qb's coach,but what is that?i would love saunders coming to dc and dont see the raiders stopping that because al davis in notorerious for being cheap when it comes to coaches,lord knows dan snyder isnt

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If Snyder lands him, not only would this be huge, but the league will certainly start looking at salary caps for coaches....lmfao!

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[QUOTE=dmek25]what exactly is musgraves job?coach gibbs calls the plays,musgrave is the qb's coach,but what is that?i would love saunders coming to dc and dont see the raiders stopping that because al davis in notorerious for being cheap when it comes to coaches,lord knows dan snyder isnt[/QUOTE]

I don't know for sure, but I get the feeling that Musgrave is more involved with "teaching" as opposed to drawing up plays. I think that what we saw from Ramsey in the Giants game, and what we'll see from Campbell is a reflection of Musgrave working with them and developing their skills.

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Can you say "beast of the east" if this happen. This would mean a high powered offense to go with our defense.

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Heres the actual article...

[url]http://insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_3416692[/url]

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I join in the "This would be a great aquisition." chorus. It essentially gives us two head coach quality coordinators. Either Willliams or Saunders could step in after Gibbs stops coaching and moves up to CEO/General Manager/Redskin Guru and all-around football man.

One question though: Has Saunders worked with/for anyone from the Gibbs/Coryell coaching tree? Just curious.

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Now that Snyder has recognized that money spent on good coaching is a better dollar for dollar bargain than money spent on talent - is it long before each player has his own coach?

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I join in the "This would be a great aquisition." chorus. It essentially gives us two head coach quality coordinators. Either Willliams or Saunders could step in after Gibbs stops coaching and moves up to CEO/General Manager/Redskin Guru and all-around football man.

One question though: Has Saunders worked with/for anyone from the Gibbs/Coryell coaching tree? Just curious.[/QUOTE]

He worked with Gibbs at USC

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]He worked with Gibbs at USC[/QUOTE]


That must of been at least 30 years ago, right TAFKAS?

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[QUOTE=dmek25]what exactly is musgraves job?coach gibbs calls the plays,musgrave is the qb's coach,but what is that?i would love saunders coming to dc and dont see the raiders stopping that because al davis in notorerious for being cheap when it comes to coaches,lord knows dan snyder isnt[/QUOTE]

My understanding is that the QB coach (and other position coaches) tend to work with those players buried deeper than 1-2. So a QB coach will work to develop the young #3-4 quarterbacks in hopes that they will eventually progress.

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Its pretty clear that the skins organization is specifically targetting the super bowl next year. Maybe so that Gibbs can win it all and then retire. The first time Danny tried to buy the super bowl, he splurged on overpriced free agent players - this time, he's splurging on coaches. Smart move.

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This would be a truly inspired play if Gibbs went this direction. Admitting that you need a new perspective from outside eyes. Not saying Gibbs isn't capable but I am a big fan of inclusive analysis. Get people with differing ideas and let them hash it out. Gibbs is showing that his best atrributes are in management and finding the right people to get the job done. I hope this guy ends up here and is the right guy.

An interesting side discussion. One thing that I have heard some analysts say and something that makes a lot of sense. The only real difference between today's game and the game in the 80's is the salary cap of course. But the real difference with that is that it makes COACHING the most important thing a team has going for it. With players constantly in and out COACHING is the real difference maker today. Maybe Joe has realized that and thinks he needs to upgrade his staff's offensive IQ (for the lack of a better term). He certainly displayed such tendencies when he got Snyder to pony up and keep Williams around at almost any cost.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]That must of been at least 30 years ago, right TAFKAS?[/QUOTE]

Right. Early 1970s. In the mid 1980s, he was the receivers coach and then assistant head coach under Coryell in San Diego. Then he took over as head coach, I think in 1986.

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Gibbs has never been against bringing in guys he feels can help improve things. If it's one thing that Gibbs doesn't have it's an ego. Saunders would be an incredible move on the Skins part and we would easily have the best staff in the league.

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[QUOTE=amorentz]My understanding is that the QB coach (and other position coaches) tend to work with those players buried deeper than 1-2. So a QB coach will work to develop the young #3-4 quarterbacks in hopes that they will eventually progress.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the organization and personel. In Balt Fassel works with Boller and Wright while Neuheisel worked with their 3rd stringer. I would guess in Wash that Musgrave(equivalent to Fassel) worked closely with only Campbell while Breaux and Burns worked with Ramsey and Brunell as a group. I think the experience level of the QBs in question determine how much individual coaching they get.

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Damn! I sure hope this happens!! I wonder if Sauders is a Gibbs' type of guy? Anybody know about his personality?

ALSO - Wasn't he head coach of San Diego a few years ago?