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well well well anyone surprised....lol? Can you say Ramsey to the Jets?

Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports a person close to [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl"][color=#0000ff]New York Jets[/color][/url] QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1351/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Chad Pennington[/color][/url] seemed resigned Friday, Feb. 17, to the likelihood of the quarterback being released in the coming days. "It looks like they're ready to move on," the person said of the Jets. The moment of truth likely will occur next week, when GM Mike Tannenbaum and Pennington's agent, Tom Condon, are expected to meet at the [url="http://www.kffl.com/link/183"][color=#0000ff]NFL Combine[/color][/url] in Indianapolis. It will take a lot of bending from both sides to produce a reworked contract. Pennington is scheduled to make a total of $9 million in 2006 (a $3 million roster bonus, due March 3, plus $6 million in base salary), but he is being asked to take an almost-unheard-of reduction. The [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Jets[/color][/url] want him to forfeit the bonus and reduce his base pay to $1 million, with a chance to recoup the difference with playing-time incentives. There is always a chance the stalemate could end before March 3, but both sides appear entrenched in their positions.

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Take that Laveranues Coles! You're the one who got me banned from this site my first go 'round.

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isnt there supposed to be a $12 million cap penalty if they cut him
[url="http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9244680"]http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9244680[/url]

nfl.com says they are stuck with him no matter what but idk

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Yeah, not sure how this would work with their current cap situation which is a complete mess - you think the Skins are bad the Jets are even further in the hole.

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chad has missed 23 of his last 48 games. He may not be able to throw over 20 yards (and his arm sucked hard before the injury as well).

I don't know how they can release him, but he's not worth the money.

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The jets will probably look to drew brees instead of ramsey.

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[QUOTE=ultimateskinsfan]The jets will probably look to drew brees instead of ramsey.[/QUOTE]

no they won't. how can a club 30mill over the cap afford drew brees??? ramsey is cheap, brees most definately is not.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]no they won't. how can a club 30mill over the cap afford drew brees??? ramsey is cheap, brees most definately is not.[/QUOTE]


Plus, why trade Pennington's broken arm with Brees' now broken arm?

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Those are both good points. I wouldn't be surprised if PR heads up north. It will be interesting to see what we get for him, though - the Jets are kind of over a barrel in terms of what they need versus what they can afford.

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[QUOTE=EXoffender]Take that Laveranues Coles! You're the one who got me banned from this site my first go 'round.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about...what does Laveranues Coles have to do with anything?!!

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Drew Brees isn't going anywhere. For one, I think the Chargers prefer him to Rivers, but that's just my opinion. However, I know they can't get rid of him now. If he gets healthy and is ready to go for the season, he'll start, if not Rivers will, but they need them both in case one falls on their face. The Chargers aren't unloading either QB any time soon.

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[QUOTE=Skins_4_Lyfe]What are you talking about...what does Laveranues Coles have to do with anything?!![/QUOTE]

coles is getting another year of crap QB'ing so Xoffender is happy i guess, i think he may have been the one banned for cracking jokes about coles being abused as a kid and that's what he's refering too... someone got banned for that anyways.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]Drew Brees isn't going anywhere. For one, I think the Chargers prefer him to Rivers, but that's just my opinion. However, I know they can't get rid of him now. If he gets healthy and is ready to go for the season, he'll start, if not Rivers will, but they need them both in case one falls on their face. The Chargers aren't unloading either QB any time soon.[/QUOTE]

rivers looked terrible in relief too, so i'm guessing their pretty happy about their QB "problem" right now.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]coles is getting another year of crap QB'ing so Xoffender is happy i guess, i think he may have been the one banned for cracking jokes about coles being abused as a kid and that's what he's refering too... someone got banned for that anyways.[/QUOTE][i][Sobbing] [/i]I really liked my previous name too. WAHHHH!

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[QUOTE=That Guy]coles is getting another year of crap QB'ing so Xoffender is happy i guess, i think he may have been the one banned for cracking jokes about coles being abused as a kid and that's what he's refering too... someone got banned for that anyways.[/QUOTE]

if he did get banned for that.....he should be thrown out...again just for bringing it back up.........L. Coles is a man.....that's what it take to come out admit, what happen and then.....tell people to help others..........If anyone thinks thats funny or cool, or whatever.......comeback and laugh when it happens to someone close to you.......

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[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2334831"]Looks like he isn't taking a paycut.[/url]

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They were talking about it this mourning on the fan [NYC] it doesn't sound as if Chad is going to budge on his contaract. I really don't want it to happen but I do believe the Jets are going to make a play for Ramsey, I also believe they value him much more than we do.

I wouldn't mind a Ramsey and Arrington trade for Vilma.

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[QUOTE=offiss]They were talking about it this mourning on the fan [NYC] it doesn't sound as if Chad is going to budge on his contaract. I really don't want it to happen but I do believe the Jets are going to make a play for Ramsey, I also believe they value him much more than we do.

[b] I wouldn't mind a Ramsey and Arrington trade for Vilma[/b].[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't that be terrible for both teams though (cap wise)

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we don't need vilma, marshall is a perfectly capable middle linebacker. As for ramsey and abraham, i'd love to see that trade happen. Who knows, i mean Miami gave a first rounder to philly for feeley, i think it was. Either way, philly got a first rounder for some mediocre qb, we might be able to do the same.

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[QUOTE=offiss]They were talking about it this mourning on the fan [NYC] it doesn't sound as if Chad is going to budge on his contaract. I really don't want it to happen but I do believe the Jets are going to make a play for Ramsey, I also believe they value him much more than we do.

I wouldn't mind a Ramsey and Arrington trade for Vilma.[/QUOTE]

I've been saying that Ramsey is worth a 3rd round pick. What do you think the Jets will give for him?

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anyone see lawyer bill?pennington is thru.wonder what the reasoning is behind his logic for not taking a pay cut(to basically save his job)im not sure if he is in the nfl after this season.high priced qback that cant throw

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we can't take JA, he's in it for the money and he wants a lot. if we take his new contract, people will have to be released this year an next year to makke up for it... (and i mean starters, not scrubs).

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[QUOTE=70Chip]I've been saying that Ramsey is worth a 3rd round pick. What do you think the Jets will give for him?[/QUOTE]


Personally I wouldn't trade him for less than the Jets second, he's worth more to us as a backup than a 3rd rd pick. Brunell is getting older, he is also unwilling to take a hit any longer, I believe that is going to cause a problem this season, Saunders asks his QB's to stand in the pocket, Trent Green was very good at that, Patrick is good at it, and I believe Campbell will also be able to hang in there, I don't believe Brunell will be able to, which makes the backup far more valuable this season. If Brunell can't get it done, or get's injured are we prepared to let Campbell take over the reigns of what could be a super bowl team? I know I wouldn't, I feel much more comfortable with Ramsey in there.

Although if it was up to me Ramsey would be the starter and Brunell would be gone, I wouldn't trade him period.

The Jets still remember that game a few years ago that Ramsey had against them under SS, he looked like a budding star, I think that particular game will go a long way in getting good value from the Jets. As one x- jet's GM said, the word around the league is that Patrick is much more valued by other teams than he is in DC.

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[QUOTE=mooby]we don't need vilma, marshall is a perfectly capable middle linebacker. As for ramsey and abraham, i'd love to see that trade happen. Who knows, i mean Miami gave a first rounder to philly for feeley, i think it was. Either way, philly got a first rounder for some mediocre qb, we might be able to do the same.[/QUOTE]


Vilma would come in at OLB, and I think your really missing the boat on us not needing Vilma. Let Williams turn that guy lose in our defense he is phenomonal, he would become a top 5 LB in his first year with us, he can do it all.

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I don't see the Jets parting ways with Vilma. Abraham yes, Vilma no way.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I don't see the Jets parting ways with Vilma. Abraham yes, Vilma no way.[/QUOTE]


I pretty much agree with that, more wishfull thinking than anything, but you never know.

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they'd never let vilma go for ramsey. vilma is a much better player and on a relatively cheap contract for years. why would they take his release hit just to give us a great player at a super cheap (since the skins wouldn't have to pay ANY of the bonus money) contract? he's one of their best players on D, one of the players they'll actually be able to keep, so its not happening.

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Yeah why would the Jets part ways with Vilma. He might not be the next Ray Lewis but from what we've seen so far it seems like he'll always be knocking on the door of that Elitiest of the Elite level.

As for Acquiring Ramsey, I doubt it. Apparently the Jets front office is falling head over heals for Jay Cutler. However if they offer a 3rd round pick for him I'm game (remember we drafted some guy named Chris in the 3rd round in 2004).

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there'll be talent in the 3rd round this year... but they'd probably only offer a fourth since it's such a high pick.

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i think the jets might acquire ramsey instead of jay cutler. He has good arm strength, and plus, he spent a season with laverneus coles here in washington, and coles made the pro bowl. That's a good factor, he already has a feel for coles, kinda like peyton and harrison know what they're doing with each other, just not on that level.
@offiss: there's no reason to get vilma. Lavar will be perfectly healthy soon enough and he will get back to top form. He's probably not going anywhere with his cap hit either.

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[QUOTE=mooby]i think the jets might acquire ramsey instead of jay cutler. He has good arm strength, and plus, he spent a season with laverneus coles here in washington, and coles made the pro bowl. That's a good factor, he already has a feel for coles, kinda like peyton and harrison know what they're doing with each other, just not on that level.
@offiss: there's no reason to get vilma. Lavar will be perfectly healthy soon enough and he will get back to top form. He's probably not going anywhere with his cap hit either.[/QUOTE]


Arrington is the reason I would love to get Vilma, he's far better than Arrington.

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vilma's a stud, but one we're definately not getting under any circumstance. The jets aren't THAT stupid.

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Hey guys, maybe after we trade LaVar and Ramsey for Vilma we could deal Jacobs to the Raiders for Randy Moss.... :rolleyes:

They'd have to be retarded to give up Vilma and we'd have to be retarded to move him outta the middle.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]Hey guys, maybe after we trade LaVar and Ramsey for Vilma we could deal Jacobs to the Raiders for Randy Moss.... :rolleyes:

They'd have to be retarded to give up Vilma and we'd have to be retarded to move him outta the middle.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking more like trading Jacobs and Ramsey for Manning and Harrison.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]Hey guys, maybe after we trade LaVar and Ramsey for Vilma we could deal Jacobs to the Raiders for Randy Moss.... :rolleyes:

They'd have to be retarded to give up Vilma and we'd have to be retarded to move him outta the middle.[/QUOTE]

Exactly....no way, no how are they letting Vilma go.

I would also think that if they drafted a rookie QB, they would be back to square one in terms of rebuilding. This was a team, only two years ago, that was making a strong push to go deep into the playoffs. I'm sure they would prefer a young, solid, veteran QB to help them get back to the playoffs.

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[QUOTE=mooby] there's no reason to get vilma. Lavar will be perfectly healthy soon enough and he will get back to top form. He's probably not going anywhere with his cap hit either.[/QUOTE]



i gotta agree with you. i'm hoping lavar stays and has a good year for us. i still think lavar is a very good lb.

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I DONT WANT TO SEE LAVAR LEAVE.........but can u imagine our D with vilma which is never happening but can u imagine.......lavar arrington, jonathon vilma, marcus washington, lets throw in abraham in that mix, with sean taylor.........thatd be scary........haha..........back to reality..........vilma stays, pennington leaves, lavar stays, i pray ramsey stays and takes over brunnells old ass...........im tired of seeing him scared to take a hit. but its very likley theyll take cutler