John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

John Clayton, when asked if lavar would be a cap casualty, said that we were trying to trade lavar and that he would probably not get the roster bonus he is due...bad news if u ask me

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

I wanna see Lavar here....but that salary is huge and we need to cut cap room.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

I thought there was a rumor that he was actually going to restructure?
If it's true that they are trying to trade him I am going be real pissed.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

he might only be willing to restructure a mill instead of whats needed. if he' not cut, than that 6.5mill compound an already insane contract that's going to have to be dealt with sooner or later (he stays and we get an awful cap problem next year too).

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

his contract needs to be dealt with,for once and for all.either restructure so everyone can live with it,or cut him loose.i want him to stay but not at the price of destroying the cap situation of the redskins

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

i hope this isn't true, i still think lavar can get back to top form again. Hopefully he restructures so we can clear up some cap room.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

I want him traded.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

Trying to trade him? That doesn't make sense. Any team that is willing to trade for him will want to restructure his current contract, preferably in a sign and trade deal, but if LaVar is not willing to restructure to stay here why would he be willing to for another team? Especially since he can have himself cut by the Skins and enter free agency and choose his own team.

If this trade thing is true then the relationship between the Skins and LaVar is beyond repair and he'll do whatever it takes to get the hell out of DC or the Skins management must subscribe to the "you can find a sucker" theory.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

Seems like we just have to come to terms with the fact that LaVar is not going to remain a Redskin and we probably won't be getting jack for him. If someone can explain to me how we could possibly afford that mega-cap hit if we trade him then I guess I'm hoping for good value. I'm all for keeping him, but I would be shocked if that happens. By the way if they do release him and he signs with a team from the NFC East that would officially be the perfect nightmare ending to this mess.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

he's also said if the redskins cut or trade him he would consider retiring, because he doesn't want to play for another team. I don't think we will see him traded to an NFC East team, or going there if he got cut. And besides, if we wanted to cut or trade lavar, we'd have to get rid of 32 million on our cap. I don't think that would happen.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=mooby]he's also said if the redskins cut or trade him he would consider retiring, because he doesn't want to play for another team. I don't think we will see him traded to an NFC East team, or going there if he got cut. And besides, if we wanted to cut or trade lavar, we'd have to get rid of 32 million on our cap. I don't think that would happen.[/QUOTE]

32million? its either 12mill or 6-7mill if he's sacked before the 6.5mill bonus happens.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

I hope it works out that we keep Lavar, but Marcus Washington is the number one linebacker now and would be even if we keep Arrington.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

The sooner the better, he's nothing more than a paycheck and a cap killer.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

Would Pitt be willing to give us musch for LaVar? I know he's from there and I've heard rumors in the past that he would be interested in playing there (I bet especially now that just one the big one), but would they want him? It seems like Pitt always has good linemen on both sides of the ball, I wonder if we could get anything worth value from them.

I know that the Steeler's are a bit more thrifty than Danny-boy, so I doubt they would want LaVar's huge contract, but still, any thoughts?

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]32million? its either 12mill or 6-7mill if he's sacked before the 6.5mill bonus happens.[/QUOTE]

It'll cost 12.8m to cut him and ~12m to keep him. The high cap number for cutting him comes from the remaining prorated signing bonus, not any option bonus that we are paying him. The only way to get it to 7m is if the CBA is extended and we can take advantage of the June 1 cuts, pushing 5m into 2007.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=amorentz]It'll cost 12.8m to cut him and ~12m to keep him. The high cap number for cutting him comes from the remaining prorated signing bonus, not any option bonus that we are paying him. The only way to get it to 7m is if the CBA is extended and we can take advantage of the June 1 cuts, pushing 5m into 2007.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly tight! If we could get him to restructure...maybe knock that down a little further too.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz]Would Pitt be willing to give us musch for LaVar? I know he's from there and I've heard rumors in the past that he would be interested in playing there (I bet especially now that just one the big one), but would they want him? It seems like Pitt always has good linemen on both sides of the ball, I wonder if we could get anything worth value from them.

I know that the Steeler's are a bit more thrifty than Danny-boy, so I doubt they would want LaVar's huge contract, but still, any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

IMO, Pitt is an unlikely destination for Lavar. Their bread and butter has been finding diamonds in the rough, not bringing in high priced, big name free agents. It would go against their m.o. Also, the fact that a player is a local is at most a peripheral issue for an NFL team. I wouldn't say its completely irrelevant, but it's one of those things that's more interesting to fans than to teams.

[QUOTE=44deisel44]That's exactly tight! If we could get him to restructure...maybe knock that down a little further too.[/QUOTE]

The first questions that should be asked are - where is Lavar in terms of football? Is his knee likely to hold up over the next few years? Why is he overweight? Does he understand his responsibilities on the field? Is he done having long coversations with David Elfin? If the Redskins can get satisfactory answers to these questions, then I am all for a restructure. If not, a restructure will only dig us in deeper with our cap situation over the long term. If Greg Williams and Dale Lindsey do not think Lavar can be a big time contributor for say - the next three years, then they have an obligation to Dan Snyder, Joe Gibbs, Redskins fans, and to Lavar to bite the bullet and let him go. I'll say it again: it's not personal, it's business.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=wilsowilso]Seems like we just have to come to terms with the fact that LaVar is not going to remain a Redskin and we probably won't be getting jack for him. If someone can explain to me how we could possibly afford that mega-cap hit if we trade him then I guess I'm hoping for good value. I'm all for keeping him, but I would be shocked if that happens. By the way if they do release him and he signs with a team from the NFC East that would officially be the perfect nightmare ending to this mess.[/QUOTE]


LaVar seems to present quite a dilema, one simular to a rock, and a hard place. We can't afford to keep him at his current price, and can't cut him for the same reason; plus he's difficult to trade for. What a mess.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

i just pray they work all this stuff out and lavar stays with the skins

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=Big C]John Clayton, when asked if lavar would be a cap casualty, said that we were trying to trade lavar and that he would probably not get the roster bonus he is due...bad news if u ask me[/QUOTE]

Got a pretty good source for this, LaVar ain't going anywhere. Hate pulling the "I know something you don't know", but my guy says LaVar gets it, and his playoff game against Seatlle was proof. His high maintenece early on with JG and Williams is paying off.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

how good is your source?

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

his high maintaince is paying off? couldn't he be low maintaince and just as good, like say... marcus washington?

I really think lavar just needs to wait 1 day whenever he wants to say something stupid, that way he can avoid the whole "i'm sorry you misunderstood me" thing every other week ;)

if he gets it and the CBA isn't fixed, he's gonna super screw our cap situation and force a lot of people out.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]how good is your source?[/QUOTE]

Very good. High maintenence may have been put a better way. Gibbs and Williams early on invested a lot of time in him, early in the season, as is well documented. Gibbs and Williams have laid it straight for him from the get go. No promises, no lies. He is completely on board.

I see Lavar, (this is me now, not my source, but they agee) as a Mike Tyson type. Not psychotic, but never had anyone call him on how things are done. Unharnessed energy. Big plays, big mistakes. His big mistakes do not make the highlights, but they are there.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[QUOTE=jhold4th] Unharnessed energy. Big plays, big mistakes. His big mistakes do not make the highlights, but they are there.[/QUOTE]

That's LaVar in a nutshell... nice assessment.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

[color=black][font=Times New Roman][size=3]OK before we kiss LaVar good bye. We need to realize this information came from John Clayton. He is about as clueless as my 3 year old son. How many times have we heard reports from Clayton that a completely false. It's about time we as sports fans start holding some of these pathetic writers accountable to the fairytales they publish every week. [/size][/font][/color]

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

clayton and jaws are probably the best of the bunch. no one is 100% right, but they're pretty good.

Re: John Clayton on LaVar Arrington 2/20/06
 

hi omaha and welcome-NOT STOP SHOUTING