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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 05:45 PM

Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Even though we probably will not be able to dip our hands into the free agent pool, I thought people might want to know who is being released by other teams due to salary cap considerations. They are as follows:

[B]OFFENSE[/B]
QB Jay Fiedler
QB Tommy Maddox
QB Tony Banks
RB Mike Anderson
RB Stephen Davis
RB Tony Hollings
OG Ron Stone
C Kevin Mawae
OT Jason Fabini
OT Damion McIntosh
OT Mike Williams
OT Brad Hopkins
WR Issac Bruce
TE Jeb Putzier
TE Boo Williams
TE Mark Campbell

[B]DEFENSE[/B]
DT La'Roi Glover
DT Sam Adams
DT Brentson Buckner
DT Ted Washington
DE Trevor Pryce
DE Brady Smith
DE/LB Kenard Lang
DE/LB Peter Boulware
LB Shawn Barber
LB Brandon Short
LB Junior Seau
LB Jamie Sharper
LB Na'il Diggs
LB LaVar Arrington
LB Chris Claiborne
CB Ty Law
CB Sam Madison
CB Duane Starks
CB Ahmad Plummer
CB Eric Warfield
CB Dexter McCleon
CB Reggie Howard
CB Andre Dyson
CB Willie Williams
S Lawyer Milloy
S Marcus Coleman
S Tebucky Jones

Please add names to this thread as more players are cut.

RedskinPete 03-01-2006 05:57 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
I was picking up my kid from school out here on the left coast and on the raido a 49er FO person [don't know who it was..came in the middle] said it is not if this is going to happen but there will be no CBA come thursday midnight! He said PA and owers are to far apart on money! The cuts Thursday will be nothing that the lagues will have ever seen before! So what should we call it Black Thurday?

gibbsisgod 03-01-2006 05:57 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Damion Mcintosh Ot-dolphins

saden1 03-01-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
All the players worth looking at (Boulware, Madison, Law) are all 32 going or heading towards it. I wouldn't sign a single player on this list to more than the veteran minimum.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=gibbsisgod]Damion Mcintosh Ot-dolphins[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I added it to the list (as I will do with every new cut) so people can look at one post to see all of the significant cap cuts.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 06:02 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=saden1]All the players worth looking at (Boulware, Madison, Law) are all 32 going or heading towards it. I wouldn't sign a single player on this list to more than the veteran minimum.[/QUOTE]

If we somehow had the money to sign free agents, I'd give a long hard look at TEs Putzier and Williams. I'd also closely look at Plummer; he was good until he (like Springs) got the injury bug. Those guys are all pretty young.

CrazyCanuck 03-01-2006 06:02 PM

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I'm already preparing myself for the "Cut Portis, Sign Stephen Davis" threads.

gibbsisgod 03-01-2006 06:07 PM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]If we somehow had the money to sign free agents, I'd give a long hard look at TEs Putzier and Williams. I'd also closely look at Plummer; he was good until he (like Springs) got the injury bug. Those guys are all pretty young.[/QUOTE]Putzier seemed to make alot of big catches for denver late in the season

RedskinPete 03-01-2006 06:19 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Add Marcus Coleman S,Tony Banks QB and a back up running back to the list as Houston just cut!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 06:23 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=RedskinPete]Add Marcus Coleman S,Tony Banks QB and a back up running back to the list as Houston just cut![/QUOTE]

Thanks. But Coleman is retiring. I'll add Tony Banks and Tony Hollings to the list.

gibbsisgod 03-01-2006 06:24 PM

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bills- lawyer bill... nononono. lawyer milloy

RedskinPete 03-01-2006 06:25 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Even though we probably will not be able to dip our hands into the free agent pool, I thought people might want to know who is being released by other teams due to salary cap considerations. They are as follows:

QB Jay Fiedler
QB Tony Banks
RB Mike Anderson
RB Stephen Davis
RB Tony Hollings
OT Jason Fabini
OT Damion McIntosh
OT Mike Williams
TE Jeb Putzier
TE Boo Williams
DT Sam Adams
DT Brentson Buckner
DE Trevor Pryce
DE/LB Kenard Lang
DE/LB Peter Boulware
CB Ty Law
CB Sam Madison
CB Duane Starks
CB Ahmad Plummer

Please add names to this thread as more players are cut.[/QUOTE]

Add Lawyer Milloy S and also reported that E.Moulds will be cut before midnight Thursday. It is begaining!!!!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 06:28 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Thanks guys, I just added Milloy. I'll add Moulds once it become official.

htownskinfan 03-01-2006 06:29 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
I love Mike Anderson,I wished we would have signed him instead of Portis when we did,nothing against portis,we would have a lot more money and champ and a draft pick.Exmarine,team player,and i thought he was a very good running back,he might be 32 but he doesnt have a lot of wear and tear,only 865 carries for his career,Portis has 1258 already

81forHOF 03-01-2006 06:30 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
he means Marcus Coleman-safety, not Marco Coleman-DE

I think Jeb could be a potential bargain upgrade. Does anyone know if he can block?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=81forHOF]he means Marcus Coleman-safety, not Marco Coleman-DE

I think Jeb could be a potential bargain upgrade. Does anyone know if he can block?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for noticing. I just fixed it.

RedskinPete 03-01-2006 06:34 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=htownskinfan]I love Mike Anderson,I wished we would have signed him instead of Portis when we did,nothing against portis,we would have a lot more money and champ and a draft pick.Exmarine,team player,and i thought he was a very good running back,he might be 32 but he doesnt have a lot of wear and tear,only 865 carries for his career,Portis has 1258 already[/QUOTE]

I really don't think Champ would have been here even if we had Anderson. Champ didn't wanted to stay!

saden1 03-01-2006 08:12 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]If we somehow had the money to sign free agents, I'd give a long hard look at TEs Putzier and Williams. I'd also closely look at Plummer; he was good until he (like Springs) got the injury bug. Those guys are all pretty young.[/QUOTE]

Do we really need TEs? I for one like our current group.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=saden1]Do we really need TEs? I for one like our current group.[/QUOTE]

I think a good tight end could do wonders for our offense and compensate for our lack of depth at WR. What I particularly love about tight ends is their versatility. Tight ends can help in the running game, pass protection, red zone, and receiving in general. They are particularly valuable in a run-first offense, give coordinators more permutations in the playbook to work with than receivers, and increase an offense's unpredictability.

As you can see, I'm a little biased. But I am particularly emphatic about getting tight-ends right now; they're cheap and we need cap room and they're available in this deep TE draft pool (whereas a starting-caliber WR will not be).

Plus, our current group isn't all that deep. Sellers is more of a fullback than tight end. Royal is decent, but not a quality starter. Johnson is an unknown quantity. And I can't really speak to Kozlowski. So, what would happen if Cooley went down? Our offense would be struggling big time.

Big C 03-01-2006 10:08 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
ill have mike williams, offensive tackle. 26 years old, former 4th overall pick or something top 5. he is a solid player already, bugel could take him to the next level

RedskinPete 03-01-2006 11:39 PM

Take A LOOK At WHo COULD BE CUT TODAY!!!
 
Wow take a look at this.....[foxsports] [url]http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5372466[/url] [/foxsports]. You get a Idea what might happen thursday. Or maybe I should say to who the cap will hit!!!

Dirtbag59 03-01-2006 11:44 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Does anyone know what T. Prices status is. Like are the Broncos expecting him to return?

saden1 03-02-2006 01:24 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=Big C]ill have mike williams, offensive tackle. 26 years old, former 4th overall pick or something top 5. he is a solid player already, bugel could take him to the next level[/QUOTE]

What? Williams was relegated to second string after two years. Man, if a top 5 pick is getting cut before his first contract expires he has got some serious problems.

That Guy 03-02-2006 04:52 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=saden1]Do we really need TEs? I for one like our current group.[/QUOTE]

we run a lot of two TE sets and right now we have cooley and johnson (who in his firt year had one catch for 4 yards). royal isn't under contract and probably won't be back without a new cba.

That Guy 03-02-2006 04:54 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=saden1]What? Williams was relegated to second string after two years. Man, if a top 5 pick is getting cut before his first contract expires he has got some serious problems.[/QUOTE]

yeah. i'm surpried charles rodgers hasn't been shown the door yet. his contract is absolutely awful and he's worthless. sometimes you just get a bust though i guess.

That Guy 03-02-2006 04:55 AM

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359]Does anyone know what T. Prices status is. Like are the Broncos expecting him to return?[/QUOTE]

he's been cut and the broncos are still over the cap right now, so without a new cba, i doubt it.

That Guy 03-02-2006 05:13 AM

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KR, Rod Smart, Panthers.

espn has a cuts page:
[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2350202"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2350202[/url]

Big C 03-02-2006 08:46 AM

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[QUOTE=saden1]What? Williams was relegated to second string after two years. Man, if a top 5 pick is getting cut before his first contract expires he has got some serious problems.[/QUOTE]

u dont think he has talent that bugel could work with?

That Guy 03-02-2006 08:56 AM

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[QUOTE=Big C]u dont think he has talent that bugel could work with?[/QUOTE]

bugel isn't superman, he's a good OL coach. Some players just flat out suck.
otherwise i'd be first in line to give it a shot.

cross-sports example: Kwame Brown was taken #1 overall. But his stats indicate he should be bounced from the league immediately. just causse a guy is taken high doesn't mean he'll be any good. Ryan Leaf et al.

jermus22 03-02-2006 08:56 AM

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We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills.

jdlea 03-02-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Sportscenter just threw up a list of potential salary cap casualties. At the tope of the list were Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice. Also, Billy Volek and a couple other names I recognized, but can't remember right now.

Big C 03-02-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
yeah but mike williams is a character guy that gibbs would probably like, he is a personality to say the least. if the contract was cheap id love to have him here for depth

shallyshal 03-02-2006 10:07 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=jermus22]We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills.[/QUOTE]


i remember kleine well... you could also add andre johnson to the list. lasted barely 2 season with the skins despite being a first round pick..

you need feet to be a good lineman, not just size

shallyshal 03-02-2006 10:08 AM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=jdlea]Sportscenter just threw up a list of potential salary cap casualties. At the tope of the list were Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice. Also, Billy Volek and a couple other names I recognized, but can't remember right now.[/QUOTE]


agree with you totally about cowen.. time for that troll to move upstairs, he belongs inthe upper echelon of the nfl league office

SmootSmack 03-02-2006 02:17 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Don't know if it's been listed here, couldn't find it, but La'Roi Glover (Cowboys) and Will Shields (Chiefs) are gone according to Foxsports.com

That Guy 03-02-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
wow, big cuts. shields only has what? 11 consectutive pro bowls?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2006 02:47 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Don't know if it's been listed here, couldn't find it, but La'Roi Glover (Cowboys) and Will Shields (Chiefs) are gone according to Foxsports.com[/QUOTE]

Just added them to the list, thanks!

SkinsFanfrom21122 03-02-2006 06:16 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
Chiefs cut Warfield, Stills, McCleon, Barber

[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727[/url]


And Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have released LB Brandon Short.

SmootSmack 03-02-2006 06:19 PM

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanfrom21122]Chiefs cut Warfield, Stills, McCleon, Barber

[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727[/url]


And Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have released LB Brandon Short.[/QUOTE]

Welcome!

SmootSmack 03-02-2006 06:20 PM

Re: Recent League Salary Cap Cuts
 
I don't know if this has been brought up, but are teams being perhaps too hasty in cutting players? I mean you cut a guy like Will Shields thinking you have to because there's no CBA in place. But then what if a deal is reached?


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