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9erman 03-11-2006 11:35 AM

Good luck with B-Lloyd
 
Redskin fans,

I am here to wish you good luck with Brandon from the folks at [url="http://www.ninercaphell.com"]www.ninercaphell.com[/url]. For the last few years we have enjoyed his amazing catches and been pissed about him never catching the ball between the hash marks. A lot of us would have been happy with 4th round compensation but we are glad that you guys are willing to give us more for what we feel is a 3rd WR. I wish you all the very best and many victories over Dallas/Philly.

PS: Do not subject yourselves to Lloyds "rapping". It is beyond terrible.

Sincerely,
Raoul Duke

steveo395 03-11-2006 11:37 AM

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[QUOTE=9erman]Redskin fans,

I am here to wish you good luck with Brandon from the folks at [url="http://www.ninercaphell.com/"]www.ninercaphell.com[/url]. For the last few years we have enjoyed his amazing catches and been pissed about him never catching the ball between the hash marks. [b]A lot of us would have been happy with 4th round compensation but we are glad that you guys are willing to give us more for what we feel is a 3rd WR.[/b] I wish you all the very best and many victories over Dallas/Philly.

PS: Do not subject yourselves to Lloyds "rapping". It is beyond terrible.

Sincerely,
Raoul Duke[/QUOTE]
remember when the jets considered moss a 3rd WR?

9erman 03-11-2006 11:38 AM

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[QUOTE=steveo395]remember when the jets considered moss a 3rd WR?[/QUOTE]
I didn't :)

taylor21dakila 03-11-2006 11:40 AM

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Thanks 4 da good luck anywayz even dough moss was a considered 3rd WR just as someone said right b4 me

MTK 03-11-2006 11:41 AM

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I never would have guessed that a 49er fan would come here and bash on Lloyd, we heard the same thing from Jet fan last year and we all know how that turned out.

Good luck rebuilding that fine team by the way.

9erman 03-11-2006 11:41 AM

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[QUOTE=taylor21dakila]Thanks 4 da good luck anywayz even dough moss was a considered 3rd WR just as someone said right b4 me[/QUOTE]
Mostly do to lack of height. For some reason you have to be 6'4" to be a #1 in some peoples eyes.

9erman 03-11-2006 11:43 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I never would have guessed that a 49er fan would come here and bash on Lloyd, we heard the same thing from Jet fan last year and we all know how that turned out.

Good luck rebuilding that fine team by the way.[/QUOTE]

I showed complete respect for your organization.....you could at least try to return the favor.

diehardskin2982 03-11-2006 11:46 AM

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what is the 9ers strategy if they lose lloyd

MTK 03-11-2006 11:48 AM

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[QUOTE=9erman]I showed complete respect for your organization.....you could at least try to return the favor.[/QUOTE]

I tried, sorry it didn't work out.

9erman 03-11-2006 11:49 AM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]what is the 9ers strategy if they lose lloyd[/QUOTE]
We have a couple draft picks that have never been given a chance. We just don't feel that Lloyd has the heart and determination that we would like.
[img]http://serv2.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/17434_lloyd_ducks.gif[/img]

I was a big supporter of Lloyd....up until the drop againt CHI in the redzone that he blamed on the QB.

SmootSmack 03-11-2006 11:51 AM

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[QUOTE=9erman]Redskin fans,

I am here to wish you good luck with Brandon from the folks at [url="http://www.ninercaphell.com"]www.ninercaphell.com[/url]. For the last few years we have enjoyed his amazing catches and been pissed about him never catching the ball between the hash marks. A lot of us would have been happy with 4th round compensation but we are glad that you guys are willing to give us more for what we feel is a 3rd WR. I wish you all the very best and many victories over Dallas/Philly.

PS: Do not subject yourselves to Lloyds "rapping". It is beyond terrible.

Sincerely,
Raoul Duke[/QUOTE]

So what are you guys going to do to shore up that receiver position? Who do you have besides Arnaz Battle?

saskin 03-11-2006 11:52 AM

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[QUOTE=9erman]We have a couple draft picks that have never been given a chance. We just don't feel that Lloyd has the heart and determination that we would like.
[img]http://serv2.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/17434_lloyd_ducks.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

That play could've been meant for someone past him.

The Reverend 03-11-2006 11:53 AM

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]what is the 9ers strategy if they lose lloyd[/QUOTE]

I think it involves those two second rounders we might be getting from you. To be honest I'd be happy with just one second for him.

9erman 03-11-2006 11:53 AM

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[QUOTE=saskin]That play could've been meant for someone past him.[/QUOTE]
I remember that play like yesterday......it was for him, I was pissed!!!

The Reverend 03-11-2006 11:54 AM

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[QUOTE=saskin]That play could've been meant for someone past him.[/QUOTE]That sir is a debate that has gone on for two years on Niners message boards. The only ones who still make that argument are the ones who have him in their avatars, aka his fanclub.

steveo395 03-11-2006 11:54 AM

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[QUOTE=The Reverend]I think it involves those two second rounders we might be getting from you. To be honest I'd be happy with just one second for him.[/QUOTE]
since when are the redskins giving u 2 2nd rounders

9erman 03-11-2006 11:56 AM

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Redskins interested in Lloyd, report says
49ERS RECEIVER'S DEAL MIGHT MAKE IT TOUGH
By Dennis Georgatos
Mercury News

The Washington Redskins reportedly are making a pitch for 49ers receiver Brandon Lloyd.

Lloyd, after a team-leading 48 catches for 733 yards last season, is a restricted free agent bound to the 49ers by a $1.6 million qualifying offer. The tender gives the 49ers the right to match any offer or receive a compensatory first-round pick if Lloyd signs elsewhere.

The Redskins are interested in Lloyd as a complement to Pro Bowl receiver Santana Moss. However, they are without a first-round pick in next month's draft.

[b][size=4]So the Redskins are pursuing a trade for Lloyd, and according to the Washington Post, a deal could be imminent. One proposal being considered was a pair of second-round picks for the receiver, the Post reported.[/size][/b]

Aaron Salkin, a spokesman for the 49ers, said the Redskins had not yet spoken with the 49ers about the deal, which can now be made with the start of the free-agency signing period.

In the past, Coach Mike Nolan and team vice president Scot McCloughan have said they would be willing to consider virtually any trade or roster move that they believe would make the team better.

Lloyd's agent, Joby Branion, did not return a phone call seeking comment, and a Redskins spokesman did not return a phone message.

Nolan has praised Lloyd's abilities but the receiver also has drawn the coach's ire. Nolan was critical of Lloyd after a loss in Chicago in which the player shifted blame for a dropped pass at the goal line to quarterback Cody Pickett.

• In other news, the 49ers might wrap up a new contact for kicker Joe Nedney by today. Nedney made 26 of 28 field-goal tries last season, including all 10 between 40 and 49 yards.
[url="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/14073921.htm"][color=#aa0000]http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/14073921.htm[/color][/url]

The Reverend 03-11-2006 11:57 AM

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[QUOTE=steveo395]since when are the redskins giving u 2 2nd rounders[/QUOTE]of all the rumors I've heard, that is the most common one. He is tendered at the 1st round level.

saskin 03-11-2006 11:58 AM

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[QUOTE=9erman]I remember that play like yesterday......it was for him, I was pissed!!![/QUOTE]

The way it looks then is the QB threw it too soon cause he didn't look until it was right by him.

BigSKINBauer 03-11-2006 12:00 PM

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[QUOTE=The Reverend]That sir is a debate that has gone on for two years on Niners message boards. The only ones who still make that argument are the ones who have him in their avatars, aka his fanclub.[/QUOTE]
so he jumps up does a front flip along with a 360 spin and then catches the ball but would duck his head to miss a easy catch on purpose? It seems like he didn't think the ball was to him...

diehardskin2982 03-11-2006 12:01 PM

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i heard a third rounder and a forth next year

9erman 03-11-2006 12:02 PM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]so he jumps up does a front flip along with a 360 spin and then catches the ball but would duck his head to miss a easy catch on purpose? It seems like he didn't think the ball was to him...[/QUOTE]
He just makes silly mistakes and is inconsistant. He drops any pass in which contact might be involved......he makes amazing plays when nobody can touch him.

The Reverend 03-11-2006 12:04 PM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]so he jumps up does a front flip along with a 360 spin and then catches the ball but would duck his head to miss a easy catch on purpose? It seems like he didn't think the ball was to him...[/QUOTE]Those are his kind of catches, although that would kind of dull. I think if he had tipped it off his toes done a cartwheel and made a one handed grab whilst smoking a ciggerette with the other...that would have been more along the lines of what he does. But...

Back on topic, good luck with him. I was a fan of his for a while. Then came the duck, then many other little things and the chicago gator. Maybe going to Washington will help him sprout some balls and get him to start making the plays that matter rather than just the ones that make highlight reels.

RiggoRules 03-11-2006 12:07 PM

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Mad props to you 9erMan.

We get Lloyd. You still are stuck with Nolan. We remember him from when he was running the Clay Aiken style defense here before he finally got fired (Snyder got tired of taking it like he was Clay Aiken). Hmmm. Who is going to be available in the 3rd round this year or the 4th next year that will be an upgrade?

Granted, you guys are in rebuild mode and two mid round picks may make more sense (no, you can forget about two second rounders).

The big value of Lloyd to us is how he will fit into the bigger picture of the offense. He will make our QB better and our other WRs better. He isn't going to have to be The Man.

He was forced into a role in SF that he simply A) wasn't ready for and B) didn't have the team around him that would have given him any chance to succeed.

This deal will probably work out to be good for everybody.

BigSKINBauer 03-11-2006 12:08 PM

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[QUOTE=9erman]He just makes silly mistakes and is inconsistant. He drops any pass in which contact might be involved......he makes amazing plays when nobody can touch him.[/QUOTE]
just to draw another connection. remember Santana was called sideline santana? Everyone said he was scared of getting hit. I didn't notice that much in the year. I think that is more of a silly mistake though. What pinkston did is being scared...

maybe we will let sean taylor hit him a few hundred times until he he gets used to it. That, however, may be conterproductive.

9erman 03-11-2006 12:14 PM

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Mad props to you 9erMan.

We get Lloyd. You still are stuck with Nolan. We remember him from when he was running the Clay Aiken style defense here before he finally got fired (Snyder got tired of taking it like he was Clay Aiken). Hmmm. Who is going to be available in the 3rd round this year or the 4th next year that will be an upgrade?

Granted, you guys are in rebuild mode and two mid round picks may make more sense (no, you can forget about two second rounders).

The big value of Lloyd to us is how he will fit into the bigger picture of the offense. He will make our QB better and our other WRs better. He isn't going to have to be The Man.

He was forced into a role in SF that he simply A) wasn't ready for and B) didn't have the team around him that would have given him any chance to succeed.

This deal will probably work out to be good for everybody.[/QUOTE]

I hope the deal works out for both if us. Norv will want a WR that can get downfield which Lloyd is not. You need role players like Lloyd to help your overall offense. Eric Johnson will be back, we will have Vernon Davis, and our line will be much better so I am not worried about replacing his receptions.

Lloyd may help a team that has a #1 sure....but he is not very fast and does not go over the middle so he will never be worth a day 1 pick IMO.

The vanilla defense Nolan ran in DC had a lot to do with the lack of talent and many injuries on your defense. He is a good motivator and will not be calling the plays

9erman 03-11-2006 12:15 PM

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]just to draw another connection. remember Santana was called sideline santana? Everyone said he was scared of getting hit. I didn't notice that much in the year. I think that is more of a silly mistake though. What pinkston did is being scared...

maybe we will let sean taylor hit him a few hundred times until he he gets used to it. That, however, may be conterproductive.[/QUOTE]

You should see the aligator arms againt CHI. You would change your mind quick.

steveo395 03-11-2006 12:20 PM

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[QUOTE=9erman]I hope the deal works out for both if us. [b]Norv will want a WR that can get downfield which Lloyd is not[/b]. You need role players like Lloyd to help your overall offense. Eric Johnson will be back, we will have Vernon Davis, and our line will be much better so I am not worried about replacing his receptions.

Lloyd may help a team that has a #1 sure....but he is not very fast and does not go over the middle so he will never be worth a day 1 pick IMO.

The vanilla defense Nolan ran in DC had a lot to do with the lack of talent and many injuries on your defense. He is a good motivator and will not be calling the plays[/QUOTE]
hahahahahaha you guys have norv...seriously that sucks

9erman 03-11-2006 12:21 PM

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[QUOTE=steveo395]hahahahahaha you guys have norv...seriously that sucks[/QUOTE]
As a OC he is great....as a HC he sux.

We have also contacted the agent for David Givens.

RedskinPete 03-11-2006 02:12 PM

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[QUOTE=9erman]Redskin fans,

I am here to wish you good luck with Brandon from the folks at [url="http://www.ninercaphell.com"]www.ninercaphell.com[/url]. For the last few years we have enjoyed his amazing catches and been pissed about him never catching the ball between the hash marks. A lot of us would have been happy with 4th round compensation but we are glad that you guys are willing to give us more for what we feel is a 3rd WR. I wish you all the very best and many victories over Dallas/Philly.

PS: Do not subject yourselves to Lloyds "rapping". It is beyond terrible.

Sincerely,
Raoul Duke[/QUOTE]

If Lloyd is only at best a 3rd WR who is 49ers best??? Battle???? I live out here and see many 9er games. Yes he may not be as good as many of us think but just how good is he. He plays for a bad team that is bad from owner to coach. As long as he has played in the NFL this is what he has had to deal with! I believe he is better then Patten and many of the free agents or a very bad Draft of wideouts in april. I still see what you are saying a 3rd rounders maybe a little high!

JoeRedskin 03-11-2006 02:22 PM

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[QUOTE=9erman][img]http://serv2.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/17434_lloyd_ducks.gif[/img]
[/QUOTE]

Dohh

This is very easily explained - He thought the ball was Sean Taylor and was going to roundhouse kick his helmet off.

BTW - TAFKAS is wrong about the change of scenery. It's Joe Gibbs that will "Get Lloyd right" - not the pretty pictures on the walls.

RedskinPete 03-11-2006 02:35 PM

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Maybe the sun got in his eyes??? But isn't this the same thing we heard about Moss before he came here? That he was not the player that the Jets believe he was coming out of the college? That Moss was not a top WR and maybe just a kickoff return guy at best? Well Gibbs as something in Moss and if we can believe reports about Lloyd and the Redskins Gibbs must see something here as well!

EXoffender 03-11-2006 04:15 PM

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And now for more Alex Smith highlights...

Dirtbag59 03-11-2006 04:46 PM

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Man I hate this thread. Now I'm starting to get a bad feeling about Lloyd. Screw you 9erman. You made me think.

That Guy 03-11-2006 05:08 PM

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The jets fans generally liked santana and would rather have kept him, but thought coles was better and so they liked the trade. I don't remember much actual "he sucks" stuff though. just the sideline thing and the yearly hamstring injury.

the 3rd rounder could be hass or orr, which, i think, could both be good WRs.

everyone gets so swept up in the FA stuff and so overly excited they start looking at EVERY FA mentioned as a uper star immediately :( some of them have baggage and have reasons why they're being cut loose.

That Guy 03-11-2006 05:35 PM

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9erman, any thoughts on andre carter while you're here?

redskinsskickazz 03-11-2006 05:54 PM

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[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6920312372504230735&q=lloyd+49ers[/url]

some of lloyds other highlights

That Guy 03-11-2006 05:58 PM

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lloyd and roy look like the perfect WRs for micheal vick.

EXoffender 03-11-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Good luck with B-Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=redskinsskickazz][url="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6920312372504230735&q=lloyd+49ers"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6920312372504230735&q=lloyd+49ers[/url]

some of lloyds other highlights[/QUOTE]WOW! I want us to sign this guy! :point:

Sknsnation 03-11-2006 08:18 PM

Re: Good luck with B-Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=9erman]We have a couple draft picks that have never been given a chance. We just don't feel that Lloyd has the heart and determination that we would like.
[img]http://serv2.imagehigh.com/files/ih000001/17434_lloyd_ducks.gif[/img]

I was a big supporter of Lloyd....up until the drop againt CHI in the redzone that he blamed on the QB.[/QUOTE] I believe we have enough vet leadership on this team to set him straight,should he start with the bad mouthing.


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