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Your expectations/predictions for the 2006 Redskins
Now that some of the dust has settled and a good portion of our team is in place what are your expectations for 2006 [b][i]as of today . .[/i][/b] .? I know a lot can change in this league, quick!
maybe we can revisit this at the end of the preseason and make new ones. To keep it simple, lets say 1. how many wins the skins should get, 2. how far we should get into the playoffs if you think we will make them! and, 3. who will be the Skins MVP, and then 4. add in one more expecation or predicton. [list=1][*]I say anything less then 11 wins will be a dissapointment, our revamped offense should be able to squeeze out a game like in Denver in 05 and not only pick up yards but get into the endzone, that has to be worth at least 1 more victory.[*]I say we win at least two games in the playoffs, that could be the second round or the NFC champ game, depending if get that bye.[*]I think Portis is gonna benefit the most from the additions this year. He is going to rack up at least 1650 yards and 10+ TD's, he will be our MVP[*]my add in is I think another QB besides Brunell will play a lot this year, due to injury. I have a feeling he won't hold up the entire year[/list] |
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im going to be bold with mine:
1) at least MAKE it to the super bowl. if we dont with all this talent (barring injury) theres no way we dont make it. 2) portis is MVP of the league. passing sets up the run, running sets up the pass, portis rushes for 1800+ 3) top 3 d and O. with arguably the best offensive and defensive coordinators, this is overdue. 4) jason campbell starts by mid-season due to a) injury to brunell or b) poor play from brunell 5) all 3 main WRs have 900+ yards receiving. at one point in the season (when brunell gets hurt or is playing poorly) someone will bitch and gibbs with diffuse it. pwned. |
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The only two games that bothered me were the away games at NY Giants, and at Indianapolis, however with the team we now have I believe truly believe that we can win all 16 games next season plus post season games, that would mean that in a single season we would be the winningest team ever.
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campbell either starts the season or brunell starts and finishes it.
If campbell has to come in midway (meaning he's NOT the best option), there's a good chance the super bowl dream is done. Your MVP should generally be your QB if you're going to the super bowl. Ours right now would have to be portis or moss right now though. |
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My expectations are very simple:
As compensation for B. Lloyd, the SF 49rs will be receiving the 32nd pick in the 4th round next year. We were bloody close last year. Our passing game let us down. We've made some improvements there. I'm scared sh1tless about QB, but I'm thinking Ray Charles could find somebody open with what we're planning to enter the season with. |
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I'm pretty new here but am known as the #1 optimist as CelticNation.com where I am a HOFer and top 3 or 4 in total posts. That will set you up for my predictions.
Saunders will get the best year yet out of Portis. Thats his MO. Backs that play for him have huge years both running and recieving. The only question is can he hold up? Jansen, Thomas amd Samuels will make the ProBowl(somethng else Saunders produces...All-Pro offensive linemen) for paving the way for Portis. Moss wont catch as many passes but will find alot more room to roam and will score more TD's. Randle El and Lloyd will botrh stay happy because they will catch more balls then they did last season. Cooley will make the first of many trips to the ProBowl having a monsterous year...again going by Saunders track record...he loves using the TE. Defense will be the best we've seen thus far from GW will his new toys. We'll win our division going away, get a first round bye. Everything after that depends on injuries. |
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but of course, everything depends on injuries. right now im hoping for drafting/signing some good depth along the o-line especially.
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Brunell doesn't fit Al Saunders' offense and Campbell is green.
Who's gonna drive? The offense never gets in gear. Lots of finger pointing. We finish 8 - 8 and Dan Snyder is once again the punchline for some really bad jokes. All together now! Boooooooooooooooooo |
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[QUOTE=Huddle]Brunell doesn't fit Al Saunders' offense and Campbell is green.
Who's gonna drive? The offense never gets in gear. Lots of finger pointing. We finish 8 - 8 and Dan Snyder is once again the punchline to some really bad jokes. All together now! Boooooooooooooooooo[/QUOTE] if saunders can't make it work with the pieces we got, then we can go back to last year's plan. The offensive will be better not worse and the defense will be fine and get mroe sacks. |
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[QUOTE=That Guy]if saunders can't make it work with the pieces we got, then we can go back to last year's plan. The offensive will be better not worse and the defense will be fine and get mroe sacks.[/QUOTE]
I was counting on that. Otherwise I would have predicted 6 - 10. |
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Super Bowl!!!
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im definitely feeling the defense will be back in top form again. id love to see us draft a DL guy or two (maybe with Ramseys pick). Archuleta will give us a great blitz from the safety position as well as Carter from de.
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[list=1][*]I see 13-3, possibly 14-2[*]Make your reservations for Miami[*]Portis should get MVP this year[*]I agree with everybody else, there is a good chance Brunnell won't play the whole season[/list]
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[QUOTE=Huddle]I was counting on that. Otherwise I would have predicted 6 - 10.[/QUOTE]
so with everyone returning and 3 offensive upgrades, 2 defensive upgrades, an OC upgrade, and a couple ST upgrades, and a MASSIVELY easier schedule, we're somehow going to suddenly get much much much worse for no apparent reason? |
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19-0
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[QUOTE=That Guy]so with everyone returning and 3 offensive upgrades, 2 defensive upgrades, an OC upgrade, and a couple ST upgrades, and a MASSIVELY easier schedule, we're somehow going to suddenly get much much much worse for no apparent reason?[/QUOTE]
1. There's no such thing as a MASSIVELY easy or difficult schedule anymore. You've heard of Parity? It's working. 2. I gave you two very good reasons that our record might not get better despite the improvment. Brunell doesn't fit and Campbell is green. 3. Never said the team was much much much worse. Those were your words. The overall talent on the team is certainly better. |
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[list=1][*]11-5 or 12-4. Split with Giants; sweep Cowboys; Eagles are a huge unknown. Colts, Panthers and Jaguars on schedule are a concern.[*]As of [b]today[/b], I see the conference championship. Lloyd, Randle-El, Fauria haven't picked up a playbook yet. Looks good, but games are not played on paper. They are played on television.[*]MVP is Clinton Portis, but Brunell will be huge and Patton will be improved.[*]If Jason Campbell is the starter, then we will lose the first playoff game. Inexperience is inexperience.[/list]
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[QUOTE=Huddle]1. There's no such thing as a MASSIVELY easy or difficult schedule anymore. You've heard of Parity? It's working.
2. I gave you two very good reasons that our record might not get better despite the improvment. Brunell doesn't fit and Campbell is green. 3. Never said the team was much much much worse. Those were your words. The overall talent on the team is certainly better.[/QUOTE] 1. we had the #2 hardest schedule in the NFL last year. this year it might be closer to 15-20. that would be massively easier. 2. brunell does fit. If they're going to completely change the offense with total disregard to the guy on the field, then the coaches are idiots and we have no reason to pay them millions a year. 3. i never said you did, but thought i'd throw it out there since it wasn't mentioned. Figured it might offset whatever deficiencies you might see. |
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1. Both O and D are ranked in the top 5 overall at the end of the year.
2. Al Saunders' O makes Brunell look like he's got 10 more years in the tank. 3. Trip to Miami. 4. Minimum 12 regular season wins. 5. Jason Campbell remains painfully behind the learning curve and never sees the field. 6. Moss, Brunell, Portis, Cooley, Samuels, Jansen, Thomas, Griffin, Springs, and Washington all go to Hawaii. 7. ST marks "6 months down, 102 to go" in chalk on his prison wall. |
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Why doesn't Brunell fit Al Saunders' offense but Trent Green did?
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I said it when the season ended and I will say it again. 13 wins and a super bowl appearance.
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[QUOTE=That Guy]1. we had the #2 hardest schedule in the NFL last year. this year it might be closer to 15-20. that would be massively easier.
2. brunell does fit. If they're going to completely change the offense with total disregard to the guy on the field, then the coaches are idiots and we have no reason to pay them millions a year. 3. i never said you did, but thought i'd throw it out there since it wasn't mentioned. Figured it might offset whatever deficiencies you might see.[/QUOTE] If you looked at the 2005 schedule before the season, you would have judged it an easy one. Four or five teams on our schedule made dramatic turnarounds from the previous year. The same thing could happen this year. That's because teams in the NFL are evenly matched. Joe Gibbs told us that they went after Al Saunders because they were impressed by what he did at Kansas City. Have you read about his offense? There are major changes coming, not in formations, but in strategy. He wants to spread and stretch the field. You do that with a pocket passer like T. Green not with a 36 year-old scrambler. Campbell has the ability but not the experience. |
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Green had 35 rushes for 82 yards.....Brunell had 42 rushes for 111 yards last year..... I don't think I would classify either guy as a "scrambler". If Brunell looked like he was on the move more often, it's probably because he wasn't behind the best offensive line in football (like Green was) and had to avoid sacks.
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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Why doesn't Brunell fit Al Saunders' offense but Trent Green did?[/QUOTE]
Trent Green is a pocket passer. Brunell is not. Brunell's instinct is to flush out out the pocket quickly and often. That's not going to fly with what Al Saunders is trying to do. |
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brunell moves around, but he had no problems staying behind the line and chucing it for over 3k yards with only 2 viable receiving threats, one of which ended up with constant double and triple coverage.
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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Green had 35 rushes for 82 yards.....Brunell had 42 rushes for 111 yards last year..... I don't think I would classify either guy as a "scrambler". If Brunell looked like he was on the move more often, it's probably because he wasn't behind the best offensive line in football (like Green was) and had to avoid sacks.[/QUOTE]
Your stats don't tell the story. Brunell doesn't run anymore but he still breaks from the pocket early and often just as he did in his prime years with the Jags when he made his living with his legs more than his arm. |
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[QUOTE=That Guy]brunell moves around, but he had no problems staying behind the line and chucing it for over 3k yards with only 2 viable receiving threats, one of which ended up with constant double and triple coverage.[/QUOTE]
Fine. But if he moves around the same way in Al Saunders' scheme, he will defeat the strategy of the offense...to stretch and spread the defense out...to attack all areas of the field...and to set up the running game for C. Portis. |
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[QUOTE=Huddle]Fine. But if he moves around the same way in Al Saunders' scheme, he will defeat the strategy of the offense...to stretch and spread the defense out...to attack all areas of the field...and to set up the running game for C. Portis.[/QUOTE]
and how does avoiding sacks ruin the offense exactly? I doubt we bootleg as much, it was boots where rolling out cuts the field in half, but those were playcalls, not his doing. |
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[QUOTE=Master4Caster]
games are not played on paper. They are played on television. [/QUOTE] :lol: |
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[QUOTE=That Guy]and how does avoiding sacks ruin the offense exactly? I doubt we bootleg as much, it was boots where rolling out cuts the field in half, but those were playcalls, not his doing.[/QUOTE]
I'm not talking about planned bootlegs or scrambling to avoid sacks. A pocket passer stays in the pocket and goes through his reads. Brunell has never done that. He didn't do that with the Jags and hasn't done it here. He sees the field better when he rolls left and he doesn't have a bunch of big guys blocking his vision. But there's a price to pay for that advantage and the price gets steeper as he gets older and his legs get weaker. |
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EXPECTATIONS
Satisfied=Win the East (trouncing Dallas' Ass TWICE), Play in and be competative in NFC Champ game Happy= Win the East (Trouncing Dallas Dumb Ass TWICE) Win the NFC Champ game, be competative in the "Show" Delirious=Dominate the East (Trouncing Dallas' hillbilly, dumbass, SOB THREE TIMES) Dominate the NFC Champ game. Restore the NFC to GLORY WITH THE BIG ONE...................and one Lotto win |
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[QUOTE=Huddle]I'm not talking about planned bootlegs or scrambling to avoid sacks. A pocket passer stays in the pocket and goes through his reads. Brunell has never done that. He didn't do that with the Jags and hasn't done it here.
He sees the field better when he rolls left and he doesn't have a bunch of big guys blocking his vision. But there's a price to pay for that advantage and the price gets steeper as he gets older and his legs get weaker.[/QUOTE] I disagree with that assessment. Brunell goes thru reads better than Ramsey or Campbell and only scrambled because he needed to. It bought more time for someone to get open, which didn't happen enough last season. Presumably with the new receivers, two or three targets can get separation is 3 seconds or less. |
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My predictions for the 2006 Washington Redskins.
1) Win the NFC East (sweep the Cowgirls). 2) Win at least 11 games. 3) Make it to the NFC Championship, possibly the Superbowl barring any major injuries or setbacks. 4) Pro Bowl: Clinton Portis, Chris Samuel, Randy Thomas, Chris Cooley, Santana Moss, Marcus Washington and Sean Taylor(aquitted). |
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Last year was the first year in a long time in which I actually predicted them worse than .500 (predicted 6-10). With that in mind, I'm picking 2-14 but I can't say why because my conscious mind will catch on and force me to type my actual prediction of 14 an .... oops almost let it out. Trust me my prediction is going to be right on.
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You asked AS OF RIGHT NOW. So here's my assessment:
The passing game improves, Portis and Cooley are good again, the defensive line is upgraded, the linebacking is about the same, the safeties are upgraded. But the CBs and offensive line depth are weaker right now. There is no depth. At some point, some of those players will get injured and we'd be starting the Ade or Jim Molinaro at some point. Not good. It's also unrealistic to expect the transition to Saunders to be completely seamless. It's not a major adjustment, but it is a bit of a change. Given that, I think we go 10-6 the way we're currently comprised. But, ask me how we look once we add a nickel CB, some o-line depth, and a linebacker. I'm liable to tell you we look like NFC Championship game material, at the bare minimum. |
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[QUOTE=Master4Caster]I disagree with that assessment. Brunell goes thru reads better than Ramsey or Campbell and only scrambled because he needed to. It bought more time for someone to get open, which didn't happen enough last season. Presumably with the new receivers, two or three targets can get separation is 3 seconds or less.[/QUOTE]
How would you know he does it better than Campbell who hasn't played? I guess he's just a fast reader. |
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Does this mean that since Brunell is a scrambling QB and Saunders offense is geared towards pocket-passing that Saunders isn't going to be crafty enough or Brunell isn't going to spend more in practice throwing from the pocket?
There is a little bit of playful sarcasm there but not my intentions are not malicious. I just think the point of Brunell being just a scrambler is overemphasized. If there is a problem I'm sure Gibbs and Saunders have given it thought and talked with Brunell about their plans and whatever revisions are necessary. |
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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan]Does this mean that since Brunell is a scrambling QB and Saunders offense is geared towards pocket-passing that Saunders isn't going to be crafty enough or Brunell isn't going to spend more in practice throwing from the pocket?
There is a little bit of playful sarcasm there but not my intentions are not malicious. I just think the point of Brunell being just a scrambler is overemphasized. If there is a problem I'm sure Gibbs and Saunders have given it thought and talked with Brunell about their plans and whatever revisions are necessary.[/QUOTE] Okay. I feel a whole lot better. [unmalicious, playful sarcasm backatcha] |
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1. 11-5 record.. I think they are clearly improved from last years 10 win team and coming in with a lot more confidence. I didn't feel they believed in Gibbs until the Rams game.
2. Make it to the NFC Championship game, no telling what happens then. 3. Portis will be the MVP, 1500+ yds, 12-15 TD 4. I predict top 8 in offense and defense but we will continue to struggle to cause turnovers.. Also we will be debating whether Eric Mangini gave Patrick Ramsey a fair shake for the Jets QB job. |
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[QUOTE=Paintrain]Also we will be debating whether Eric Mangini gave Patrick Ramsey a fair shake for the Jets QB job.[/QUOTE]
On the extremeskins site, about 250 fans voted that Ramsey had not had a fair shake as a Redskin by a margin of almost exactly two to one. |
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