Will CP benefit from Al and the Recievers?
 

With JG handing over the keys on offense to Al Saunders, and with the addition of wideouts, what do you peeps think Clinton can come up with numbers wise, and how many over 20 yd carries do you think he'll come up with? My Guess is if Mark Brunell can shine again this year (I know, it is still a question mark), CP may have the chance to explode in this system. He will not be as banged up, but may have the opportunity to gain more yards/big plays.... holla at me, just not in a bad way.. jj

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You better believe Clinton's gonna be seeing the easiest running since hes been a Redskin. No teams will stack the box at all during the whole season, there's no way he won't break out. Look at James in Indianapolis.. Portis managed 1500+ yards last season, and he carried the team on his back the second half of the season facing 8 and 9 men in the box. It's a guarantee.

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i think hell have a stellar year just' cause of the wideouts could be like 91 with the posse when we were running byner....offense looks good 2 me i dont know bout the qback tho i like mark todd might be the man as it were
jason i hopeJG never plays green qbacks yall already know that..lol

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Portis will go for 2200 yards .... he will be fresher for the playoffs because teams won't be able to key in on him as much...watch out for my man cooley; no one is talking about him now with all the new additions...hopefully other defenses won't notice him and he will kill them softly!

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Alright then.. how about some numbers.... I have enough Hen in me to put predictions down before spring..... CP- 1623 yds, 17 tds (Al throws to his backs alot).... Rushes over 20 yds---11/// how does that sound?

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i see portis having around the same number of yards, but on less carries. i think we throw teh ball more this year

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Saunders' scheme is going to be adapted a bit to fit what the Skins do best. I don't think Portis is going to be the recipient of that many passes, I think Cooley will still play HB and catch the passes in that role.

Portis will run for 1600, but on fewer carries. I'm thinking 4.5 yards per carry.

Moss duplicates last year's production. Cooley duplicates last year's production. Randle El puts up 700 yards receiving, and Lloyd puts up 600. All in all, that should make for a top 10 offense.

Pair that with a sure-fire top-10 defense, with an improved turnover margin, and I think you're looking at 11-5 or better.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Saunders' scheme is going to be adapted a bit to fit what the Skins do best. I don't think Portis is going to be the recipient of that many passes, I think Cooley will still play HB and catch the passes in that role.

Portis will run for 1600, but on fewer carries. I'm thinking 4.5 yards per carry.

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i agree w/ cooley... i was really referring to the amount of touchdowns CP would have due to the passes he'd actually recieve...272 carries!!!

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He was at about what? 4.3 ish w/ abt 352 carries... lets say that w/ my stats 5.9 is a bit high (but dont doubt Gainesville, Clinton Portis).... so maybe lets settle with approx 4.78// thats a drop in total yds, but should resort in more wins, and healthier gut for the long haul

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I think Portis' number will not change much, but he will become more involved in the passing game.

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I agree with most of you...CP will be right around last years Rushing #'s, with 10 TD's...I also think his Recieving #'s will go up and give him 4-5 more TD's that way...I think Moss will have a better YP Catch, but probably a few les yrds overall....I also think El and LLoyd will post 500-700 yrds a piece and Patten will put up 400-600...I think Cooley and LLoyd will lead our team in Recieving TD's this coming year...Moss will be close, but i think with Al's style with Cooley and LLoyds hieght, they will be our RedZone money makers...Moss will get his TD's like last year 20 yrds and out...I agree though that as long as Mark is healthy or Jason is as good as we hope...that we will be a top 10 Offense

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Last season, Portis ran extremely well from spread formations which we can expect to see more of in 2006.

He won't be running as often in predictable down and distance situations, so his YPC should go up.

However, he will get fewer carries. During our win streak at the end of the year, we were really pounding him in the running game.

I don't think we can predict production numbers at this point since it all depends on how well our QB runs the offense. At Kansas City, Trent Green stayed in the pocket and was well protected. At 36, I can't see Mark Brunell morphing into a pocket passer where his height and his flat, shoulder-high delivery are disadvantages.

Saunders can adapt to Brunell's tendency to leave the pocket quickly to roll left and throw short...but that defeats the strategy of stretching and spreading the field. The other problem with that is that defenses learned to counter Brunell's rollouts last season...one reason (not the only one) why the production of our passing game fell off sharply after the San Francisco game.

Campbell's talents are better suited to the system but he hasn't taken a snap in an NFL game.

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One thing that Saunders is known for is unpredictability. Part of the reason the KC backs had such high per-average carries is because of this offensive philosophy. I have a feeling we'll see the 'Skins backs with a higher per-carry average this coming year as long as the line can stay healthy, which could bode well for Portis. Playing under Saunders might even extend his career one or two years.

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I agree with your statment on Mark and Jason.....i think Pre-season will be fun to watch how much JC has grown as a QB...and if he might challeng Mark for that Starting spot....

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Saunders' scheme is going to be adapted a bit to fit what the Skins do best. I don't think Portis is going to be the recipient of that many passes, I think Cooley will still play HB and catch the passes in that role.

Portis will run for 1600, but on fewer carries. I'm thinking 4.5 yards per carry.

Moss duplicates last year's production. Cooley duplicates last year's production. Randle El puts up 700 yards receiving, and Lloyd puts up 600. All in all, that should make for a top 10 offense.

Pair that with a sure-fire top-10 defense, with an improved turnover margin, and I think you're looking at 11-5 or better.[/QUOTE]

What Schneed said ...,

... except I think Lloyd will have a bigger impact, approaching 1000 yards with Moss at 1200 - 1400 on big plays. In addition to Portis averaging 4.5 ypc, his TD production should spread out all year. In 2005 most of his scores came in the second half of the season.

Hope I get him on my fantasy team!

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i bet the additions nuke moss and cooley as FF super studs :/

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NO dought...I want portis in the first 2 rounds...just like last year..he was a solid scorer for me...even though his TD's where a little slow early on....MOSS was killer though and could should be a top 7 WR in Fantasy....

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[QUOTE=That Guy]i bet the additions nuke moss and cooley as FF super studs :/[/QUOTE]

i agree. i can really see people focusing all attention on lloyd and randle el for some reason. i think moss is going to have a HUGE year. maybe not as huge as last year because the ball will get spread around more, BUT i bet his big year next year leads to the other receivers having big years as well. i also feel cooley wll be a forgotten target to other teams defenses.

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CP should easily rush for 1700 yards next year and have the best season of his career. The only thing that concerns me is how many carries a game will he get with the 3 recievers we have now. But he should still see bigger holes and big play should follow all season long baby!!

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we're still a run first offense. honestly i think maybe CPs rushing yards will go down, but he'll have far more receiving yards. saunders loves to use his RBs as receivers.

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in FF last year i got moss in the 5th or 6th round and he was the #2 WR all year. smith was the #1 and went in the same area (everyone forgot about him since he missed all of 2004, but i remembered how easily he put up 1k in 03).

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portis's YPC goes p, rushing numbers go down. moss's receiving yards go down. and b/c i think randle el wont be the number 2 guy lloyd will have more production than randle. randle el wasnt that good in RECEIVING production w/ steelers last season as the #2 guy. dont sleep on patten to come in and take that number 2 spot. i still have a lot of faith in this guy i dnt care how high profile lloyd and randle el are if patten takes the number 2 spot i wont be upset at all. i still dont htink we needed this many receivers.im not sold on campbell yet. i havent seen anything. not sold on mark, not sold on todd. i think we really have a problem at qb.....if we put in campbell off the bat ill be forced to beleive well take a step back.

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im sold on mark if hes fully healthy next year.

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[QUOTE=PWNED]im sold on mark if hes fully healthy next year.[/QUOTE]

How about Al Saunders? Do you think he's into dink and dunk?

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[QUOTE=Huddle]How about Al Saunders? Do you think he's into dink and dunk?[/QUOTE]

maybe more into screens than anything. i dont think mark was actually that dink and dunk. i thought he threw intermediate to deep a lot.

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Brunell can throw it around just fine, I think the "dink and dunk" was more due to the system than any of his limitations.

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[QUOTE=PWNED]maybe more into screens than anything. i dont think mark was actually that dink and dunk. i thought he threw intermediate to deep a lot.[/QUOTE]

I must have gone to the fridge for a beer when he made those intermediate range completions.

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I think CP will have a big year if we have good depth on the O line. If we get one or two key injuries on the O line, the whole offensive attack may suffer. We need some quality depth behind the starters, esp afterlosing the ageless Ray Brown.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]I must have gone to the fridge for a beer when he made those intermediate range completions.[/QUOTE]

yeah most definitely. he hit cooley and moss a LOT for intermediate routes.

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I would like to rename this thread:

"does Joe Gibbs have 3 Super Bowl rings?"

or

"do 98% of us on here love Burgandy and Gold?"

or

"does the author of this thread's mama get me hot?"

si, si, si.

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?.. Man I aint wit that Jeff Garcia stuff buddy... you betta go give your fruit cocktail to Nasty Nate