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[B]NFL | Main topic for NFL meeting is replacing Tagliabue[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:00:30 -0800
The Associated Press reports the main topic at the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl"]NFL[/URL] owner's meeting next week will be the first steps in choosing a successor to current commissioner Paul Tagliabue. The commissioner will appoint a committee Monday to begin the process.

[B]NFL | League to re-visit horse collar rule[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:59:11 -0800
The Associated Press reports the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl"]NFL[/URL] is going to look at a proposal that expands the rule put in place last year against "horse collar" tackles. That violation mandated flags only when a defensive player coming from behind got his hands inside the shoulder pads of a player with the ball. If it is expanded, it would extend that to tackles inside the shirt.

[B]NFL | League to once again look at number of playoff teams[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:57:36 -0800
The Associated Press reports the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl"]NFL[/URL] is once again going to consider an annual proposal from the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl"]Kansas City Chiefs[/URL] to expand the playoffs from 12 to 14 teams. He said there was more interest in it this year, although Atlanta general manager Rich McKay, co-chairman of the league's competition committee, stopped short of saying the committee would recommend it.

[B]NFL | League to fine tune some rules[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:50:16 -0800
The Associated Press reports the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl"]NFL[/URL] is satisfied with their officiating, but they are concerned some calls in the playoffs left a bad impression with the fans. To that end, the league will tweak a few rules, dealing mostly with player safety, offensive holding and false starts. In the 256 games during the past regular season, there were 850 false-start calls. To cut that number, the rules committee is ready to recommend that minor flinches by wide receivers be ignored if they have no effect on the play. The committee also is considering recommending to officials that they make sure there was holding on a play before throwing a flag. The committee also wants to change the rule on hits by defenders below the knee on quarterbacks. McKay said defensive players will be told they must make an effort to avoid hitting QBs in the legs to avoid serious injuries.





Horse collar expansion to being under the shirt as well under the shoulders is A Good Idea (c). Roy williams still does this every play and portis got sent to the sidelines for at least a few plays because of it. It still poses an unecessary injury risk to other players.

I don't see how you can avoid hitting a QB low if your choice is either hit low or let him complete a pass/run past you. A good will gesture rule without any way to enforce it is worthless.

and again with the expanded playoffs... the last thing i think anyone wants to see is 7-9 teams in the postseason on a regular basis, or sending an entire division into the playoffs. No thanks.



Anyone else have any thoughts on the proposals they're looking at?

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How many times did we see Portis get dragged and wrenched to the ground by the back of his jersey last year??!! I'm all in favor for expanding the horse collar.

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[QUOTE]The committee also is considering recommending to officials that they make sure there was holding on a play before throwing a flag.[/QUOTE]
WTF!!! i guess that explains alot....

Horse coller rule, i like.

The playoff team expansion, i dont like. if 9-7 teams are getting in, there are too many playoff teams already...

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[B]NFL | League to vote on helmet radio rule[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:32:18 -0800

Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports Atlanta Falcons general manager Rich McKay, co-chairman of the league's competition committee, said Wednesday. March 22, teams will vote on a proposal to allow defensive players to wear radio helmets, similar to the coach-to-quarterback helmets used by offenses. McKay said concerns about teams stealing hand signals have led to the proposal. If approved, a defensive coach would be able to talk to one defensive player through the radio. Each team would have to designate before the game which player will wear the radio helmet. That player is the only one who can wear the helmet during the game. If that player is injured, teams would have to go back to using hand signals.


weird. might as well, i guess.

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I don't think that they should add 2 more teams to the playoffs, I understand that it will be 7 from the afc and nfc but 14 teams is only 2 shy of half of the league making the playoffs... I agree with the 7-9 argument also, it is bad enough when 8-8 teams make the playoffs...

I think that they need to adjust the horse coller rule, and why not let the defenses use the radio helmet? I mean fair is fair right?!?!

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[B]NFL | Tampa Bay submits replay rule change[/B]
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:27:16 -0800

Ira Kaufman, of the Tampa Tribune, reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have submitted a proposal that will be considered by league owners meeting in Orlando next week that would expand the scope of instant replay to include all penalties. "We're offering the suggestion that all penalties that are called should fall within the realm of instant replay," Bucs general manager Bruce Allen said. "We suggest any penalties that are called be subject to review. After reviewing hundreds of plays, we feel it's time to expand on instant replay, since we have a system in place."

I agree. how many times did you want to challenge pass interference (which can easily be a 60 yard penalty)? stick with the 2 + 1 challenge rule and just expand your ability to challenge any ruling.

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One thing I'd like to see them not call holding or block in the back on punts and kickoffs if it doesn't affect the play.. Calling holding when it doesn't have any impact on the outcome of the play is worthless.

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no to challenging every penalty.slowing down the game too much.no to the expanded playoffs.yes to the horse collar rule.good jesture in trying to address the low hits on the qback,but no because if you avoid hitting him,then you turn into flag football.and why not let the defensive player thats calling the defenses have a radio,just like the qback?

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I like the idea of expanding instant replay. Why can't the replay booth get quick about their jobs and start revewing every call as soon as the flag is thrown. Then if there is a big play like a 60 yard pass interference they can take a little extra time.

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[quote=dmek25]no to challenging every penalty.slowing down the game too much.[/quote]

how would it slow the game down too much? teams only get 2 challenges currently, and that wouldn't change. So the total challenge time wouldn't be any different than before.

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[quote=That Guy]how would it slow the game down too much? teams only get 2 challenges currently, and that wouldn't change. So the total challenge time wouldn't be any different than before.[/quote]

No, I disagree with using challenges for penalty replays, but I like the idea of reviewing some of the penalties. I recall a few holding penalties last year that took the Skins completely out of a scoring drive. And often, when you go back and watch the replay, it was just a lineman getting a better push on the defender and knocking him to the ground. So much for being a big strong lineman. Holding calls are drive killers and the call is made way too frequently.

I'd also like to see if there is a way to review deep passing penalties. Both illegal contact and pushing off by the receiver. There were a lot of phantom calls in that area as well. I think it is just because at top speed, it's tough for the official to keep up and get a good view of the play. Replay can help that one. Those are big plays for teams and they need to be right.

As for slowing down the game, make them a 30 second review. Most recording is digital these days and it does not require a minute to queue up and start a review. It can be nearly instantaneous. Maybe I wouldn't be so big on all this, but it just seems that the Skins have had more than their share of piss-poor calls going against them in recent years.

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I'm all for replays on pass interference but holding leave it be. Just have the ref's be more attentive when they're watching the plays develop. I know things are moving 100mph but it's your job homie, I understand there will be mistakes but hey New England got their first Super Bowl after a rule was made up to save Tom Brady. That is one of the reasons the Patriots are high on my most hated teams list. The horse collar rule is some bull-ish because they never call it, the tv crew never call the ref's on it, and without that Roy Williams would be an average safety. I swear he is OVERRATED. Anyway I've seen Clinton dragged down like that and it's never called, they ALWAYS have excuses for it being done to him but it's a travishamokery when it's done by Sean "The Executioner" Taylor the NFL should suspend him.

Oh how I love to be a Redskins fan. It's so F'n fun !

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what the refs dont understand yet is,they should be holding onto their penalty flags and whistles and not using/blowing them until the last possible second to be 100% positive about what they are seeing.that way there is no longer "whistle has blown,play over"on fumbles,the whistle should never blow prematurely,letting the play go and THEN going back to the replay if needed.if you go to replay on all penalties,you are using the refs interpretation of a call,in theory will take longer because of the pressures to get the call right.in my opinion,replay works ok the way it is

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[quote=Sociofan]No, I disagree with using challenges for penalty replays, but I like the idea of reviewing some of the penalties. I recall a few holding penalties last year that took the Skins completely out of a scoring drive. And often, when you go back and watch the replay, it was just a lineman getting a better push on the defender and knocking him to the ground. So much for being a big strong lineman. Holding calls are drive killers and the call is made way too frequently.

I'd also like to see if there is a way to review deep passing penalties. Both illegal contact and pushing off by the receiver. There were a lot of phantom calls in that area as well. I think it is just because at top speed, it's tough for the official to keep up and get a good view of the play. Replay can help that one. Those are big plays for teams and they need to be right.

As for slowing down the game, make them a 30 second review. Most recording is digital these days and it does not require a minute to queue up and start a review. It can be nearly instantaneous. Maybe I wouldn't be so big on all this, but it just seems that the Skins have had more than their share of piss-poor calls going against them in recent years.[/quote]

holding is one of those things where if they didnt see it on the person in question, theyd see it on someone else int he view. EVERYONE does it.

speaking of which, there should be no review on PI. its WAY too subjective.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]what the refs dont understand yet is,they should be holding onto their penalty flags and whistles and not using/blowing them [/QUOTE]


Three suggestions:

1. Abolish replay
2. Profesionalize the Referee/Umpires jobs.
3. Avoid clock stopages except for TOs and TV TOs. Do away with the incomplete pass - clock stopages!

Speed the game up a little! (Reminds me of Lucy & Ethel in the Candy Factory!)

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I agree with making refs full time pros. i wouldn't abolish replay though and there's no way they'd want to speed the game up. a 3.5+ hour game means 3.5+ hours of commericials, which means more money for the league.

but NFL shortcut are great if you like a fast game.

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[B]NFL | Compensatory picks coming next week[/B]
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:43:34 -0800

PackersNews.com reports an NFL spokesman said compensatory draft picks will be awarded next week during the annual owners meetings.

yay!... or not.

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[quote=backrow]Three suggestions:

2. Profesionalize the Referee/Umpires jobs.
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That I completely agree with. We all bitch about piss poor officiating, but the Leage won't do anything to rectify that situation. The Ref's need to be full time and well paid.

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honestly i cant see having full time refs being significantly better.

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honeslty i think the advent of technology and replays has caused us, as fans, to be even more critical and see even replays the refs dont.

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[quote=Mattyk72]How many times did we see Portis get dragged and wrenched to the ground by the back of his jersey last year??!! I'm all in favor for expanding the horse collar.[/quote]

If you are gonna have it, you might as well call it sometimes.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life]but hey New England got their first Super Bowl after a rule was made up to save Tom Brady.[/quote]

Amen, man.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life] I understand there will be mistakes but hey New England got their first Super Bowl after a rule was made up to save Tom Brady. That is one of the reasons the Patriots are high on my most hated teams list. [/quote]
what about the broncos game last year...

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they should just kill the tuck rule. it was called correctly in the bronco's game, but its a terrible rule.

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the tuck rule is the worst rule,by far,in any sport

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[B]NFL | More proposals to be considered at the owner's meeting[/B]
Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:40:29 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports a few more proposals that are being considered at the NFL owner's meeting next week are: A proposal prohibiting the kicking team from overloading one side of the field with more than seven players on onside kicks, more protection for the long snapper on field-goal attempts and a restriction on blocks in the back on punts. Another proposal would limit the referee's review time on replays from 90 to 60 seconds.

nothing all that interesting.

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why not the over loading of one side of the field on field goals?

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i like shortening of the replay review

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[B]NFL | New commissioner will have to decide on games out of the country[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:59:51 -0800

Vito Stellino, of the Florida Times-Union, reports one of the decisions the next commissioner must make is whether to play more regular-season games on foreign soil. The league talked about playing a game in London this fall but scrapped the idea because it was too busy working on a new collective bargaining agreement. Current commissioner Paul Tagliabue is a big supporter of growing football's popularity by playing games in new locations, but not many teams are willing to give up home dates as the Arizona Cardinals did last year.

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[B]NFL | L. Hunt to push for 14 playoff teams[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:56:58 -0800

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt will push for an expanded playoff field with 14 teams, seven from each conference. Hunt said, "It has merit for everybody, not just the Kansas City Chiefs. It creates more interest in more cities. That's the main thing. It is easier to sell tickets when you can say you were a playoff team." Hunt has pushed for more postseason teams before and it was met with plenty of resistance. It is likely it will again this time around. Atlanta Falcons president Rich McKay, who is also the co-chairman of the NFL's competition committee, said, "I'm not sure the sentiment has changed a lot."


[B]NFL | Competition committee would like to change rule for wide receivers[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 08:50:13 -0800

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the NFL's competition committee would like to see a rule that would allow wide receivers to reset if they have a minor flinch before the start of a play. Atlanta Falcons general manager and co-chairman of the committee Rich McKay said, "We're trying to find ways to limit that. The receiver would be given the opportunity to replay and there would be no stoppage." The committee is looking to limit the number of flags thrown.

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Seahawks | Controversial calls have competition committee talking[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 08:49:47 -0800

Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the NFL's competition committee has discussed several controversial calls from Super Bowl XL. Under the proposed improvements, only the holding penalty against Seattle Seahawks OG Sean Locklear might have been changed. Atlanta Falcons general manager and co-chairman of the committee Rich McKay said, "If you do not see the entire foul, you cannot call holding. We want to make sure they actually see the foul."

[B]NFL | Committee looking to change onside kicks[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:20:14 -0800

Patrick McManamon, of the Akron Beacon Journal, reports the NFL's competition committee is proposing to not allow teams to load up on one side of the ball on onside kicks. They feel eight or nine players could be dangerous and are considering a requirement for teams to have at least four players on each side of the ball.

reacaps, but a little more in depth.

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[B]NFL | Pash a possible successor for Tagliabue[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:06:18 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports NFL chief administrative officer Jeff Pash has been named as a possible successor to NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

[B]NFL | NFL Combine officials investigating leaked Wonderlic results[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:20:33 -0800

Patrick McManamon, of the Akron Beacon Journal, reports Atlanta Falcons general manager and co-chairman of the NFL's competition committee Rich McKay said the people who run the NFL Combine are investigating how Texas QB Vince Young's Wonderlic results were leaked. They believe Young's low score could hurt his draft status and are looking on how to revamp the way tests are given.

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[B]Bengals | M. Lewis named to competition committee[/B]
Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:55:53 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis has been named a voting member of the NFL's competition committee. He replaces Seattle Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren, who stepped down from the position.

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STEELERS | REQUEST SUPERBOWL OFFICIATING CREW.


What A. Thief of the Pittsburgh Gazzet is reporting that the Steelers organization has summitted a formal request asking the league if the officiating crew from this past superbowl could be used to officiate every steelers game this coming season.
When asked why the team would make such a request, Steelers coach Bill Cowher, said "are you an idiot? did you not see our superbowl victory? with that crew officiating all our games, we should easily go undefieted."

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or just maybe we could possibly leave this thread on topic and avoid trolling?

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We are too much worried abour the what if and not focused enough on the what is. It doesnt matter how much they change the rules, we are still going to watch the game. Officiating has always been bad and yet we still watch the game. New rules come into effect every year, and we still watch the game. Calls do not go our way, and we still watch the game. Our beloved Skins were a losing team for over a decade, and we still watched the game. So let those bastards in those owners meetings try to improve the NFL, because thats what they get paid for. Damn it, I will be watching the game!

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[quote=angryssg]We are too much worried abour the what if and not focused enough on the what is. It doesnt matter how much they change the rules, we are still going to watch the game. Officiating has always been bad and yet we still watch the game. New rules come into effect every year, and we still watch the game. Calls do not go our way, and we still watch the game. Our beloved Skins were a losing team for over a decade, and we still watched the game. So let those bastards in those owners meetings try to improve the NFL, because thats what they get paid for. Damn it, I will be watching the game![/quote]

longest "just shut up" message ever.... touche ;)

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trolling????i like it:)

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[b]NFL | Owners to discuss Los Angeles again[/b]
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:53:46 -0800

David Elfin, of the Washington Times, reports another topic of discussion at the NFL owners' meeting this week will be the placement of a team is Los Angeles. "Moving forward on Los Angeles is a key priority, because the economic foundations that enable us to look at that type of a challenge and to address it are in place with TV in place and labor in place," commissioner Paul Tagliabue said. Tagliabue continues to meet with prospective ownership groups, whose team would play at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum (the former home of the Raiders), the Rose Bowl in Pasadena or at Angel Stadium (the former home of the Rams) in Anaheim.

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[quote=steveo395]what about the broncos game last year...[/quote]

Oh how that game pissed me off. Just like the Bucs debacle but I understand that there will be mistakes made. Hell I can find EVERY holding, pass interference, horse collar, fumble, or any call that may have been missed by a ref after I get to see it again on t.v. I know that no matter what I will watch the games but I know, excuse me, I feel that there are some fishy things that go on. I don't know if it's me but since The Danny has gotten here I feel there is some sort of vendetta against the Redskins. Not just from the media but the league as well. A lot of calls go aginst the Skins that wouldn't for another team. Then again maybe I feel that way because I am a Redskins fan, who knows ? The point is that there will always be calls that someone misses, and there will be some that I see that really weren't there. I just don't like to see my team F'd over, plain and simple.

Redskins vs Panthers '03 I think- Steven Davis' fumble I mean touchdown

Anyone remember that crap ? Anyhoo, take it easy folks !


HAIL !!!!

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[quote=MonkFan4Life]Oh how that game pissed me off. Just like the Bucs debacle but I understand that there will be mistakes made. Hell I can find EVERY holding, pass interference, horse collar, fumble, or any call that may have been missed by a ref after I get to see it again on t.v. I know that no matter what I will watch the games but I know, excuse me, I feel that there are some fishy things that go on. I don't know if it's me but since The Danny has gotten here I feel there is some sort of vendetta against the Redskins. Not just from the media but the league as well. A lot of calls go aginst the Skins that wouldn't for another team. Then again maybe I feel that way because I am a Redskins fan, who knows ? The point is that there will always be calls that someone misses, and there will be some that I see that really weren't there. I just don't like to see my team F'd over, plain and simple.

Redskins vs Panthers '03 I think- Steven Davis' fumble I mean touchdown

Anyone remember that crap ? Anyhoo, take it easy folks !


HAIL !!!![/quote]

the calling of a tuck in the broncos game was absolutely correct. Its a retarded rule, but they called it as its written in the books. Lots of teams have lots of calls go against them. you only remember the calls againsts your team and forget the one that helped them. Seattle had plenty of complaints about refs too ;) unless they're perfect, no one's happy... and even that won't please everyone.