How Can We Improve?
 

I posted this on the Front Office Changes thread but I'll start a new thread here.

Every one of us on both sides of the Mod fence understand that there is nothing more important than providing Redskins fans with the best coverage of their beloved team. It is something we have consistently strived to do, unfortunately I think all the moderators can agree we have let our personal pride take over what is best.

Throughout the day we have continued working behind the scenes trying to resolve this issue, even while sadly slinging mud in public. This behavior is not typical of any of us and is of no good to any of you.

At this point our differences amongst the mods are simply too far apart. However, we have agreed that the best decision is not for any of us to decide. We're going to let the people decide and "settle the score" as it were. Let's not continue with the namecalling in this thread, let's hear from all of you now. What do you want? What's missing? What's good?

Now is the time for all of you to step up and tell us why you keep coming back to this site. But more importantly, what you want to see that will encourage you to come back more often, participate more, and tell your friends about it.

And hopefully we can resolve these petty differences and work together to create the best site for everyone.

So tell us what you want.

This thread is not to discuss what differences the mods have. We should not have posted that in the first place. This thread is meant to get suggestions about the site. We know this is a great site, but specifically tell us why. And tell us how it can be greater.

This site belongs to all of you, so let your voice be heard

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I'll post it again because of the new thread.

What we want is for all of the mod's to quit acting like level-5 douschebags. Don't tease the common people on this site with the whole "we're fighting but we won't tell you why" crap, only to turn around & ask us who's "right" in the argument when all we can base our opinion's on are vague personal attacks & defector avatars.

Translation = If you want respectful & informative idea's on how to fix this, have the respect for all the people on this board to [I]inform[/I] them of what's going on.

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[quote=Cooley 350Z]I'll post it again because of the new thread.

What we want is for all of the mod's to quit acting like level-5 douschebags. Don't tease the common people on this site with the whole "we're fighting but we won't tell you why" crap, only to turn around & ask us who's "right" in the argument when all we can base our opinion's on are vague personal attacks & defector avatars.

Translation = If you want respectful & informative idea's on how to fix this, have the respect for all the people on this board to [I]inform[/I] them of what's going on.[/quote]


They can't and therein lies the answer.

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As you guys probably know from the other thread, I'm not involved in this massive mod dispute. I'm just a member who was approached by TAFKAS to join his new site and keep the salary cap sheets there, and hence I'm branded with this defector avatar.

But after talking with some of the mods throughout the day, in the end I think they are having a hard time seeing all the pain this is causing some of you guys. They may have their differences, but if I know them like I think I do, I think they'll put the Redskins fans above their petty disputes and come together on this. I think this community means more to them than their squabbles. At least I hope so.

I think it would be good if we showed the mods why we're such a great community here at the Warpath. We've all got great ideas and have developed some fellowship here, so why not put that on display now? We should offer constructive feedback to help get these guys going on working towards a common goal again, which is running ONE great site.

If I could offer feedback, I'd say more super happy fun thread material is needed, maybe some tutorials to help explain the salary cap in layman's terms, and most of all, how bout we all just meet up sometime to get to know one another better, maybe share some beers, and put all the arguing behind us!

Hail!

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:grouphug: i think the other thread should be deleted. there is some harsh shit in there. the site is fine the way it is.i like how i can come to one place on the net and find almost all of the nfl news.and not only that i can talk with some of the most knoledgeable(sp?)redskins fans around.this is the site i frequent the most and i definetly like it the way it is now!!!:grouphug:

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Well, a compromise needs to be reached. Can't be any harder than it was to get the CBA done. Matty seems pretty confident that these opertunities for expansion, or whatever will bring a lot more webtraffic to the site. So I can see both sides.

Until the people of the board know the details of the dispute, we can't accurately help in the solution.

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[QUOTE=Cooley 350Z]I'll post it again because of the new thread.

What we want is for all of the mod's to quit acting like level-5 douschebags. Don't tease the common people on this site with the whole "we're fighting but we won't tell you why" crap, only to turn around & ask us who's "right" in the argument when all we can base our opinion's on are vague personal attacks & defector avatars.

Translation = If you want respectful & informative idea's on how to fix this, have the respect for all the people on this board to [I]inform[/I] them of what's going on.[/QUOTE]

Ok, here are some of the things we've been arguing about. You tell us if it would improve the site or would just be unnecessary changes.

More original articles by site members. Player profiles, Football 101 (what is the counter trey), stuff of that nature.

Dividing the "newswire" by source. So there'd be a Wash Post section with links to the latest articles with dates, and another for Skins.com, etc.

Weekly or monthly contests where we could give away prizes. Maybe in the Score Pool thread, but there could be others. Maybe best post or best thread, etc. Trivia contests is another option.

More contribution from rival sites For instance before a big Skins-Cowboys game we could do a point-counterpoint with another board member. 70Chip could say why Portis is the better back, and some guy from a Giants site makes his case for Tiki.

In addition to donation requests, why not hold some raffles or auctions to raise money for the site? Maybe raffle off gift certificates to the Warpath store, Skins tickets, etc.

Stuff of that nature

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[quote=Schneed10]As you guys probably know from the other thread, I'm not involved in this massive mod dispute. I'm just a member who was approached by TAFKAS to join his new site and keep the salary cap sheets there, and hence I'm branded with this defector avatar.

But after talking with some of the mods throughout the day, in the end I think they are having a hard time seeing all the pain this is causing some of you guys. They may have their differences, but if I know them like I think I do, I think they'll put the Redskins fans above their petty disputes and come together on this. I think this community means more to them than their squabbles. At least I hope so.

I think it would be good if we showed the mods why we're such a great community here at the Warpath. We've all got great ideas and have developed some fellowship here, so why not put that on display now? We should offer constructive feedback to help get these guys going on working towards a common goal again, which is running ONE great site.

If I could offer feedback, I'd say more super happy fun thread material is needed, maybe some tutorials to help explain the salary cap in layman's terms, and most of all, how bout we all just meet up sometime to get to know one another better, maybe share some beers, and put all the arguing behind us!

Hail![/quote]i am definetly up for a site meetup. rent a pavilion and make it happen.

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[quote=gibbsisgod]:grouphug: i think the other thread should be deleted. there is some harsh shit in there. the site is fine the way it is.i like how i can come to one place on the net and find almost all of the nfl news.and not only that i can talk with some of the most knoledgeable(sp?)redskins fans around.this is the site i frequent the most and i definetly like it the way it is now!!!:grouphug:[/quote]

I would like to second the "it's great as it is" motion. However, with all the media expanision opertunities, which are IMO a great thing, it's gonna be really tough to keep the site exactly the same. This is matty's stance as far as I can tell with limited info.

But what we really need to know is ASSUMING the site stays together, EXACTLY what will change in order for the warpath to expand through oppertunity. As far as I can tell, splintering seems to be the cowards way out. But depending on the degree of sacrifice, it may be the way to go. We need more info.

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[quote=TAFKAS]Ok, here are some of the things we've been arguing about. You tell us if it would improve the site or would just be unnecessary changes.

More original articles by site members. Player profiles, Football 101 (what is the counter trey), stuff of that nature.

Dividing the "newswire" by source. So there'd be a Wash Post section with links to the latest articles with dates, and another for Skins.com, etc.

Weekly or monthly contests where we could give away prizes. Maybe in the Score Pool thread, but there could be others. Maybe best post or best thread, etc. Trivia contests is another option.

More contribution from rival sites For instance before a big Skins-Cowboys game we could do a point-counterpoint with another board member. 70Chip could say why Portis is the better back, and some guy from a Giants site makes his case for Tiki.

In addition to donation requests, why not hold some raffles or auctions to raise money for the site? Maybe raffle off gift certificates to the Warpath store, Skins tickets, etc.

Stuff of that nature[/quote]i like most of these. maybe not the first or second

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[quote=TAFKAS]More original articles by site members. Player profiles, Football 101 (what is the counter trey), stuff of that nature.[/quote]

Sounds like a plan. Also, this could be done right here. Maybe not in fourm format, but seems like an expansion on what we already do. Actually, the key term would be more, since we already have some of this.

[quote=TAFKAS]Dividing the "newswire" by source. So there'd be a Wash Post section with links to the latest articles with dates, and another for Skins.com, etc.[/quote]

Sure you could. But you don't have to. Either way, why argue over it?

[quote=TAFKAS]Weekly or monthly contests where we could give away prizes. Maybe in the Score Pool thread, but there could be others. Maybe best post or best thread, etc. Trivia contests is another option.[/quote]

Another thing that could be done right here. What's the alternate viewpoint?

[quote=TAFKAS]More contribution from rival sites For instance before a big Skins-Cowboys game we could do a point-counterpoint with another board member. 70Chip could say why Portis is the better back, and some guy from a Giants site makes his case for Tiki.[/quote]

This I really, really like. I think this would be a great addition to the warparth. But there's probably a negative to weigh this against, so I'd like to hear both sides.

[quote=TAFKAS]In addition to donation requests, why not hold some raffles or auctions to raise money for the site? Maybe raffle off gift certificates to the Warpath store, Skins tickets, etc.[/quote]

Sounds great. I really don't care either way.

Just one man's opinion, hope this helps:)

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I for one hope this is all a joke or otherwise the time I've spent as a member of this site as well as the old yahoo one would have become tainted. I've always appreciated the great job all of the Mods have done and I've done my absolute best to spread the word about the Warpath, but if this isn't a hoax, this is flat out BS. Like I've posted in the past that I'm an extreme optimist about the play of the Skins, I too shall be an optimist about this being a big inside joke.

As far as what keeps me coming back, it's not something thats really easy to describe. I know for me personally it's awesome to have a place each day, all be it on the internet, where I can go to talk about not only one of the main joys in my life in the Redskins, but also random topics as well as to just joke around. I haven't recently posted as much as I did when I first started cuz by the time I get home from work, there's normally been someone else who's already said what I was thinking, but I always log on anyways to atleast read what others r thinking about certain topics. There's just something about the comradery here that has me coming back each day to share in the frustration and joy associated with being a fan of the greatest NFL franchise.

Once again I hope this is all a hoax cuz if not then this day truly sux.

[B][SIZE="6"]HTTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE][/B]

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I don't think some huge overhaul is necessary here either. Personally, I thought the Weekly Power Poll was frickin' hilarious. I think the place could stand to be a bit edgier than it has been. We're not talking about satin throwpillows here, we're talking about football for god's sake. We're all grown men here (with the exception of PWNED).

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If there really is a fight I'll tell you what I think. It's about money in some way. Future profit. It's also about creative influence which is probably the most important thing for most of you anyways. It's clear everyone involved is very passionate about this site and the team. If there really is a fight I can't believe you guys would allow it to be made public because you all are too smart for that. Plus what exactly is in that list that would make some of you so angry if you didn't get your way? It just doesn't make much sense. I would like to give my input on many of these ideas, but no until I know what's up with this crazy day. The idea of a gathering is a great one. I know people meet up at games, but something else could be really fun.

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just keep it as one website and i will be happy

i like all of those ideas TAFKAS said, except for dividing the newswire...thats pretty pointless

if you want to see all of the articles from a certain website, you could just go to that webite


i would like an official highlight video section for all of the games and players done by whoever is the best at making them on this website...put like an actual link on the side like there is for the cap sheets

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It's worked for this long, so there is no reason to believe it won't blow over. Unless there is something else we aren't being told.

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Trust me guys, it's not in any way about money. I haven't seen a dime as a mod. I paid money to keep the site going.

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kinda intrigued by the prospect of 2 sites to tell u the truth

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A split hurts both sites in a big way (anyone here ever been involved in a OSS project forking to death?), so i'd prefer avoid that (which may or may not be possible). I know and like a lot of people here and losing half of them (either way) and their opinions would hurt both future sites, not to mention the silent readers that may wander back to ES or HR.

As far as what i liked, I like the power polls, I like the cap sheets, I like most of the people, I like the clean look and ease of use.

What could be changed:
-Link news articles to forum threads (like blogs do, the article post remains like they are currently, with a "Discuss this Article" link which can reduce some forum spam without affecting the time ordered display of the newswire. Multiple articles on the same subject can all be displayed individually in the newswire and link to a single discusion thread. The latest article can just be automerged as the next discussion post when they're added to the newswire.) Newswire pieces wouldn't show up in the discussion forum unless comments were posted.

-Stat breakdowns and essay would be nice. We already have some (the @comcast guy who's name i forget), but sometimes I end up writing huge breakdowns of available players or our draft picks and their trade value and they end up as post #48 in some long random thread, so no one sees them and i have to repeat the info over and over and over again :( )

Like the newswire, having these link to discussion threads would also be extremely useful. that way the latest articles stay on top in the article database/listings, but can be discussed freely in the forums in a somewhat focused thread.

Re: How Can We Improve?
 

The best way is to bag the whole conspiracy/April fools jokes. They spice things up for a while but become tedious all day affairs that probably piss a bunch of people off. Today is case and point.

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[quote=FRPLG]The best way is to bag the whole conspiracy/April fools jokes. They spice things up for a while but become tedious all day affairs that probably piss a bunch of people off. Today is case and point.[/quote]

How far do you think they would be willing to go if this was some April Fools Joke? Granted, it's still possible. But how dedicated so you think they are to this?

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[quote=GTripp0012]How far do you think they would be willing to go if this was some April Fools Joke? Granted, it's still possible. But how dedicated so you think they are to this?[/quote]

about as far as we went on the arch nemisis thing i'd imagine ;)

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[quote=Cooley 350Z] I think the place could stand to be a bit edgier than it has been. We're not talking about satin throwpillows here, we're talking about football for god's sake. We're all grown men here (with the exception of PWNED).[/quote]

I agree that it could be "edgier."

Homerism prevails here...not to the extent that it does over at Extremeskins...but it is nevertheless dominant. If a poster expresses an unpopular opinion, he can expect to be ridiculed even by the moderators.

You have some nice ancillary features on this site, but I didn't come here for those. You can improve this site by improving the quality of the discussion or debate...by encouraging not discouraging controversy.

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[quote=Huddle]I agree that it could be "edgier."

Homerism prevails here...not to the extent that it does over at Extremeskins...but it is nevertheless dominant. If a poster expresses an unpopular opinion, he can expect to be ridiculed even by the moderators.

You have some nice ancillary features on this site, but I didn't come here for those. You can improve this site by improving the quality of the discussion or debate...by encouraging not discouraging controversy.[/quote]

I have assumed, as a newer member, that the Homerism was a function of the Redskins recent success. I think that if this were 1996, everyone would be in high dudgeon--Norv this and Casserly that. Am I wrong?

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[quote=70Chip]I have assumed, as a newer member, that the Homerism was a function of the Redskins recent success. I think that if this were 1996, everyone would be in high dudgeon--Norv this and Casserly that. Am I wrong?[/quote]

If you browse the fansites of other teams, you'll read the same kind of posts you read here.

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[quote=Huddle]I agree that it could be "edgier."

Homerism prevails here...not to the extent that it does over at Extremeskins...but it is nevertheless dominant. If a poster expresses an unpopular opinion, he can expect to be ridiculed even by the moderators.

You have some nice ancillary features on this site, but I didn't come here for those. You can improve this site by improving the quality of the discussion or debate...by encouraging not discouraging controversy.[/quote]

hate to break it to you, argueing that stats are almost worthless and engaging in multiple circular arguements per week while refusing to even consider that you might possibly maybe be wrong about ANYTHING doesn't exactly promote debate.

In fact, rampant and ludicrous illogic stonewalls it. So does stating and believing that there's no such thing as proof regarding objective comparisions of players (making any debate involving who we should look at or who's better etc totally impossible, so every such post becomes a worthless he said/she said thread). If you can't prove anything, then there is no debate. And so once again i find it ironic that of all people, you're the one asking for better debate when that's the very thing you've tried so hard to kill over and over again on this very site.

Go take some of those crap arguements and debating "techniques" to other forums and see how many people you get bowing before you there, or see how many sites decide not to bother entertaining it and just ban you instead.

What i think you meant to ask for is a pulpit where you can spew biased and unsupported opinions without being challenged while a loyal throng of idiot followers constantly PMs you about how amazing and smart you are.

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[quote=That Guy]Go take some of those crap arguements and debating "techniques" to other forums and see how many people you get bowing before you there, or see how many sites decide not to bother entertaining it and just ban you instead.[/quote]

That Guy, I found that adding certain members to my ignore list makes this a better forum for me. Some members are self absorbed, oppositionally defiant, stupid, and/or not worth the time. You should add these people to yours!:food-smil

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[quote=That Guy]hate to break it to you, argueing that stats are almost worthless and engaging in multiple circular arguements per week while refusing to even consider that you might possibly maybe be wrong about ANYTHING doesn't exactly promote debate.

In fact, rampant and ludicrous illogic stonewalls it. So does stating and believing that there's no such thing as proof regarding objective comparisions of players (making any debate involving who we should look at or who's better etc totally impossible, so every such post becomes a worthless he said/she said thread). If you can't prove anything, then there is no debate. And so once again i find it ironic that of all people, you're the one asking for better debate when that's the very thing you've tried so hard to kill over and over again on this very site.

Go take some of those crap arguements and debating "techniques" to other forums and see how many people you get bowing before you there, or see how many sites decide not to bother entertaining it and just ban you instead.

What i think you meant to ask for is a pulpit where you can spew biased and unsupported opinions without being challenged while a loyal throng of idiot followers constantly PMs you about how amazing and smart you are.[/quote]

I really tweaked your ego in that stats debate...didn't I?

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[quote=Huddle]I really tweaked your ego in that stats debate...didn't I?[/quote]

I don't think you tweaked anybody's ego, Huddle. I have been involved in some debates with you on here, but I've also just been witness to debates between you and others like That Guy. In those debates in which I've just been an observer, if I were judging, I'd say you flat out lost. That Guy is right, your logic is often circular. If you're going to win debates as you seem to be so concerned with, you have to offer valid rebuttals when someone shoots your points down. Your points were shot down so often, but I never heard you rebut. You usually clammed up on the subject and then picked a different, and irrelevant, point to dispute. That's the reason that debates with you seem to drift towards the pointless and irrelevant aspects of the subject matter.

In my judgment, That Guy got angry with you because you're frustrating to argue with. Mind you, you're not frustrating because you can shoot down valid points with solid reasoning. You're frustrating because when someone shoots down your point, you dance around and argue different subjects. Then you continue to argue as if yours is a position of strength when it's clearly not. That's where the frustration stems.

That's my opinion on your debating skills. I don't think you're very good at it. My guess is a lot of people would see it the same way. If you're such a great debator and so great at getting your point across, how come NOBODY on this site agrees with you? Is it possible you're actually smarter than EVERYONE here? You probably think so, which is exactly why you're so frustrating.

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[quote=Schneed10]Is it possible you're actually smarter than EVERYONE here? [/quote]

I don't know. How many do you suppose exceed a 150 IQ?

And no...that doesn't mean that I know it all...nor does it mean that I'm not capable of logical errors. What it does mean is that I'm not the obstinate dunce that you and others claim.

You are pissed with me because you couldn't handle me in debate.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]I agree that it could be "edgier."

Homerism prevails here...not to the extent that it does over at Extremeskins...but it is nevertheless dominant. If a poster expresses an unpopular opinion, he can expect to be ridiculed even by the moderators.

You have some nice ancillary features on this site, but I didn't come here for those. You can improve this site by improving the quality of the discussion or debate...by encouraging not discouraging controversy.[/QUOTE]

We always encourage a good debate. But controversy for the sake of controversy is not going to be happening here.

I haven't been all that involved in most of your threads. But as an observer, the one suggestion I would make to you is that you come across as determined to enter into debates with the purpose of winning them. As if we keep some sort of scoreboard here. The purpose of starting a debate on this thread is to strengthen your knowledge of the team and the particular topic being discussed. If someone presents an opposing view to what you have written the correct response is to take in what they have said and add it to your 150 IQ. Not say "You're pissed with me because you couldn't handle me in debate" That's not what this is about.

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[quote=Huddle]I don't know. How many do you suppose exceed a 150 IQ?

And no...that doesn't mean that I know it all...nor does it mean that I'm not capable of logical errors. What it does mean is that I'm not the obstinate dunce that you and others claim.

You are pissed with me because you couldn't handle me in debate.[/quote]

A 150 IQ and being an obstinate dunce most definately NOT mutually exclusive.

And I know at least one person here that exceeds 150 by quite a bit :P, not to mention he towers over you when it comes to common sense.

You can't handle yourself in a debate because you have no idea what a debate actually is. If you've ever seen or kept a flow chart and watched as your points are killed and can't rebut anyone else even somewhat effectively, it means you lose. Since you seem to have absolutely no experience with actual debate (even though you claim your a master debater :P) it brings into to question whether your IQ is yet another in a line of "misrepresentations."

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[quote=Huddle]I really tweaked your ego in that stats debate...didn't I?[/quote]

nope, its the ongoing and continous hypocrisy and that glaring, persistant "do as i say, not as i do" attitude that i find most annoying.

You say you want better debate when you're the only one actively working against it, you say stats suck, then post articles on DVOA and how its useful, you make statements that you're smarter than the collective whole of all NFL coaches regarding the handling of QBs and actually believe those statements to be true. If you're REALLY that smug, there's no point in even talking to you, cause its obvious you're not listening and you're not learning. Its just the same stupid mistakes and faulty logic in exciting new forms! no thanks.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]I don't know. How many do you suppose exceed a 150 IQ?

And no...that doesn't mean that I know it all...nor does it mean that I'm not capable of logical errors. What it does mean is that I'm not the obstinate dunce that you and others claim.

You are pissed with me because you couldn't handle me in debate.[/QUOTE]
This post is the epitome of your existance!!!

You side stepped Schneed's post by trying to change the topic. And the best part is that you did it by trying to prove how smart you *think* you are. Classic. :D

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[quote=TAFKAS]If someone presents an opposing view to what you have written the correct response is to take in what they have said and add it to your 150 IQ. Not say "You're pissed with me because you couldn't handle me in debate" That's not what this is about.[/quote]

If someone presents an opposing view, I expect them to have reasons. If I think their reasons make sense, I'll grant them and I might even change my mind. If they don't, I'll tell them why they don't make sense. On a strictly moderated discussion-debate site this can all be done without engaging in personal attacks.

In this thread, two posters attacked me personally and you chastised [I]me[/I]. This thread wasn't supposed to be about me. Why didn't you pounce on That Guy for starting this? If you and other mods would do that regardless of which opinion you agree with, it would be a better place.

I'll go back to lurking here. This and the Extremeskins site are a rich source of humor...especially when the posters are trying to be serious.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]If someone presents an opposing view, I expect them to have reasons. If I think their reasons make sense, I'll grant them and I might even change my mind. If they don't, I'll tell them why they don't make sense. On a strictly moderated discussion-debate site this can all be done without engaging in personal attacks.

In this thread, two posters attacked me personally and you chastised me. This thread wasn't supposed to be about me. Why didn't you pounce on That Guy for starting this? If you and other mods would do that regardless of which opinion you agree with, it would be a better place.

I'll go back to lurking here. This and the Extremeskins site are a rich source of humor...especially when the posters are trying to be serious.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't chastising you. Merely making an observation of how your demeanor comes across to some people. It's not like That Guy and Schneed have a whole litany of enemies on this site. By the same token, I hope they stop participating in this debate and get back to what the mods would like all of you to do-discuss how to make the site better. I believe you had a post once about how to determine the winner in a debate. I don't know if you were being facetious with it or what, but it's just not what the site is about.

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[quote=Huddle]If someone presents an opposing view, I expect them to have reasons. If I think their reasons make sense, I'll grant them and I might even change my mind. If they don't, I'll tell them why they don't make sense. On a strictly moderated discussion-debate site this can all be done without engaging in personal attacks.

In this thread, two posters attacked me personally and you chastised [I]me[/I]. This thread wasn't supposed to be about me. Why didn't you pounce on That Guy for starting this? If you and other mods would do that regardless of which opinion you agree with, it would be a better place.

I'll go back to lurking here. This and the Extremeskins site are a rich source of humor...especially when the posters are trying to be serious.[/quote]

woah there buddy. YOU started it by complaining about how terrible the debate here is (implying everyone else sucks), then you talk about how smart you are (everyone else is an idiot). I'd like you to point out my insults, because I used evidence from your own previous statements to show they're facts.

YOU make it about yourself, you talk down to people, insult their intelligence, and vastly disrespect this board and its members and yet are SHOCKED when anything besides "we love huddle, you're so great" is posted.

this isn't a strict debate board, so stop with that tired excuse. if it were you'd actually have to debate criticism instead of offering unsupported opinions as undeniable fact. You've also engaged in quite a bit of personal attacks, avoidance and these played out "help, i'm being oppressed" routines yourself, and this constant smugness, talking down to people, and acting like they can't have opinions without your express written permission is insulting.

Maybe you're autistic or have a social disorder i don't know about and i shouldn't be so harsh, but the understanding of people and social IQ in some of your posts is stricty sub-zero.

Re: How Can We Improve?
 

I guess with the hoax announcement this thread is shit and should be deleted?

Re: How Can We Improve?
 

thatguy and huddle,would you both shut the f*** up so we can get back to talking about what the warpath is all about,the redskins

Re: How Can We Improve?
 

Well apart from a couple of suggestions this thread turned into a pissing match instead of ways we can improve the site.

The mods will chalk this up as a lesson learned.

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