Is there a position we CAN'T draft early?
 

In [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=12064"]another thread[/URL] there was the [u]unlikely[/u] premise proffered that Vince Young would slip to #53 - and the question was asked if we would take him. While that isn't going to happen - even if he falls to the second round (which [u]no one[/u] thinks is going to happen, Houston would have a pick in the second round, and they seem to think he may be worth the #1 overall pick if Bush has a heart attack between now and draft day), there will undoubtedly be a player that slips out of the first round and into the middle of the second.

The question before you is, can we pass up the best player available in any positions? We are crazy deep at WR, but if Senorice Moss is there do we say "No thanks"? Clinton Portis is the Redskins single season rushing leader - and on the rise in most estimations - but if LenDale White falls, do we scrap our current depth chart to take him?

Vote and discuss.

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We can work with players on improving all different aspects of their game. But we can't work with players like Lendale who have work ethic issues.

Always pick the best player available unless you are talking about QB right now for us. That would not be a good problem.

In the football business, it's almost as important to appease the media and subsequently the fans, as it is to better the team. That being said, if we drafted Senor Rice I would hope that Pasta Belly would rip us good. Because we would have earned it.

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Yup. I'm not a fan of drafting best available. I say you draft best available at whatever need you have like normal people. For us it's OL, DB and LB.

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I put votes in for QB, RB, WR, Safety, Punter, and Kicker.

My thinking is that if a stud falls down to us at QB, RB, or WR, those are positions we're pretty stocked in. If we, by the grace of God, saw Vince Young:rolleyes: or Sinorice Moss or D'Angelo Williams at #53; I don't think it makes any sense to draft them in those spots. I think that no doubt someone behind us would have their mouths watering hoping to grab that player, and we could reap the benefits of trading down.

I like the best player available strategy, to a point. I don't think you draft positions that you're absolutely loaded in. I consider us loaded at QB, WR, and RB right now.

Also with Archuleta and Taylor I see no reason to draft a safety. And there is no P or K worth taking at #53. So I voted for those positions too.

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I see no need to use an early pick on the following positions: QB, RB, WR, TE, S, P, K, and M (though this is up for debate).

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M?

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I say use the first pick on the best snapper in all the land. Albright could get hurt and we could use that depth.

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[quote=Mattyk72]I see no need to use an early pick on the following positions: QB, RB, WR, TE, S, P, K, and M (though this is up for debate).[/quote]

Nevermind. I need to learn to read and write good.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Yup. I'm not a fan of drafting best available. I say you draft best available at whatever need you have like normal people. For us it's OL, DB and LB.[/quote]I'm with you TMC. The only guys we shouldn't consider at #53 are QB (unless Vince Young is there), TE (unless Vernon Davis is there), RB (Unless Reggie Bush is there), K or P (because there is no one rated as high) and of course MOD (unless of course we can trade up a few slots to grab THATGUY).

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I agree with all except TE. I'd consider a TE if a great one was available. Fauria is only a temporary solution.

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We pass on anyone who passes, catches or runs with the ball. We have other needs and those positions we should be ok for the next couple of years. We go with the best player for or needs not the best player on the board.

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[QUOTE]I agree with all except TE. I'd consider a TE if a great one was available. Fauria is only a temporary solution.
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I agree that our TE situation is not long term. Should we have the chance, I'd draft the TE from ND (don't know his name). NFL network did say he had good hands and was a blocking TE. Having said this, I still think we need more depth on OL.

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a.)we don't need another rookie qb and I forgot to vote for WR 2 cuz we have no need to even think about drafting here for another 3-4 years.
b.)our defensive line is pretty solid now with more pressing needs @LB, OL, and CB.
c.)and I think we should pass on M's right now despite the AFD debacle and give them another year before we reevaluate where this team is going and decide if a high pick is really needed to upgrade that group when the right walk on could fill in in a pinch ;)

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Well, we do not need to chose a QB, WR or RB with our 53rd pick, but I feel that the Skins need to pick either a LB or CB at that position, but if a quality DE or DT falls to the 53rd pick, I would go for it, we have not had a great DE in years and we need one!

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There should definitely be some quality LBs around at #53. There's no reason we can't find a potential starter with that pick.

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]c.)and I think we should pass on M's right now despite the AFD debacle and give them another year before we reevaluate where this team is going and decide if a high pick is really needed to upgrade that group when the right walk on could fill in in a pinch ;)[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the next starting mod might already be on the roster...

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[quote=Be Tuat]I agree that our TE situation is not long term. Should we have the chance, I'd draft the TE from ND (don't know his name). NFL network did say he had good hands and was a blocking TE. Having said this, I still think we need more depth on OL.[/quote]I agree with you on our OL depth if we loose a player along the O line and do not have a quality back up all the off season moves may become useless. I don't think one injury would hurt us that bad but with the Oline we need to be prepared to play a game or two with 2 missing starters.

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I never really like QBs or RBs (or P/Ks :P) in the first round. RBs and QBs can have VERY short careers, whereas other positions (Especially OL/DL/CB) tend to have a better chance of sticking around and being useful.

OTs can also be reaches in the first round (for need) just like QBs...

for us, i also wouldn't consider a WR, cause they aren't that great ones this year and any guy we took would be the #5 at best this year. I wouldn't rule out safety, just in case jared allen or whitner really drops far (both are 4.4 guys and either could be like pearson and play both CB and S depending on the play).

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I voted WR because I think that is our deepest position. Personally, I'd have no problem with QB because I've never been sold on Campbell. We could use depth at LB, CB, OL, and DL. Another RB (if a really promising one fell and was a bargain at 53 is always good to have......not sure we can keep Betts around as a backup forever). TE would be a waste at 53.......wouldn't mind adding TE depth in a later round though.

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I agree w/whoever said Fauria is a temporary solution. But, it would have to be a great TE at 53 for us to take him, cause we only need a blocking tight end & they tend to be around in later rnds.
LB & CB seem highest to me, but if o or d line players look good, we can always use them. Remember Doc is a fa next year, somebody might throw big $ at him before we can resign him.
If John McCArgo is still there at 53, he's a steal. Some have said he's a potential 1st rnd sleeper but projected to go in the 2nd. btw, he's a DT from NC st.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I say use the first pick on the best snapper in all the land. Albright could get hurt and we could use that depth.[/quote]

great idea

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Yes, I know. I'm smart like that.

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I voted for QB, RB, WR, CB, S, K, P, and moderator. All the others need an injecton of youth, so take the player who's talents would be best used by the B & G then by any other team.

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i want to change my vote to moderator.after thinking about it,we have a bunch of 2's and 3's,but no clearcut #1.plus we are getting old in a hurry at that position

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[quote=dmek25]i want to change my vote to moderator.after thinking about it,we have a bunch of 2's and 3's,but no clearcut #1.plus we are getting old in a hurry at that position[/quote]

yeah, and that matty guy has such a badattude... i mean, i thought I had ego problems, but man...

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This kind of reminds me of last year when a lot of us said "Wait, we already have Brunell and Ramsey. Why did we spend a first on another quarterback?"

Of course, I don't think people were necessarily bothered by spending the first on a QB, but the fact that we traded up to get that first"

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[quote=TAFKAS]This kind of reminds me of last year when a lot of us said "Wait, we already have Brunell and Ramsey. Why did we spend a first on another quarterback?"

Of course, I don't think people were necessarily bothered by spending the first on a QB, but the fact that we traded up to get that first"[/quote]

yea but who's going to say Joe Gibbs did something wrong? Damn sure aint goin to be me.

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WR, then RB, then QB.

We should get more secondary players, maybe a LB and a kicker.