Cowboys | Team wants to see more of Owens at offseason program
 

[B]Cowboys | Team wants to see more of Owens at offseason program[/B]
Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:12:40 -0700
Clarence E. Hill Jr., of the Star-Telegram, reports several sources have noted that [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl"]Dallas Cowboys[/URL] WR [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1608/nfl"]Terrell Owens[/URL] has not been a regular participant in [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl"]Cowboys[/URL] head coach [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/6445/nfl"]Bill Parcells[/URL]' offseason program. His initial absences were understood because of a prior commitment, but Owens in the past has preferred to work with his own trainer. His publicist, Kim Etheredge, said, "He is here when he is required to be here just like every other player on the team" and added that Parcells has expressed no concern about Owens' regimen. Parcells' feelings on the subject are clear. The "voluntary" program requires players to work out four times a week and get in 40 workouts during the offseason. "To (Parcells), it's about chemistry," a source said. "He wants you here."






not really a big deal, but i'd like it to turn into one...

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id like the cowboys to have to be forclosed and erased from the nfl

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Opening Salvo in the upcoming Parcells/Owens divorce

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let the fun begin!
99% participation from all Redskins so far excluded excused absences and injuries. Randle El and Lloyd are there! Patten and Moss too! We'll see where TO lines up against us! hahahhahahahaha!

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I just hope that TO tears that team apart from the inside out. Hopefully it will send them into a downward spiral that will last years.

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Here is the link:

[url]http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/14342188.htm[/url]

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I'd love to to turn out to be more than the Taylor situation was last year. I'm sure his teammates are already not impressed.

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that 99% number is pure BS. we have under 70 guys, if one misses, its below 99% and if everyone makes it, it'd be 100%... that's just a number pulled out of a hat to make people feel good.

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Anybody who is surprised by the fact that the problems are already starting with this guy (e.g. Jerry Jones) is a full-on idiot. Why do people refuse to believe that past behavior is an indication of future behavior? "He'll be different with us".......ya, sure he will. Dallas, you deserve everything you have coming to you.

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I think the most important person that this involves is Bledsoe. If his confidence in Owen's commitment to the team starts off on shaky ground then that doen't bode well for their chemistry.

YAY!

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Didn't B.P. and Jerry figure out that T.O. operates by his own rules, not by some guy with mantit's rules?

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[quote=mooby]Didn't B.P. and Jerry figure out that T.O. operates by his own rules, not by some guy with mantit's rules?[/quote]

No, only people with IQs over 50 can figure that out........which obviously leaves BP and JJ out. I mean seriously, you know you're in trouble when your coach and owner are too dumb to figure out what Philadelphia already has.

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I don't read to much into this stuff. These writers (as we all know) will try and make something a big deal when in fact it is not. I believe TO has always worked with his owen trainer so this is realy nothing new. I do not like TO but he is always in shape and ready to play. Its been his mouth that has caused all the problems not his conditioning and wort ethics.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Anybody who is surprised by the fact that the problems are already starting with this guy (e.g. Jerry Jones) is a full-on idiot. Why do people refuse to believe that past behavior is an indication of future behavior? "He'll be different with us".......ya, sure he will. Dallas, you deserve everything you have coming to you.[/QUOTE]


Goes to show how desperate they are to win. Desperate people do desperate things. Jerry the Joke is a dsesperate man.

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[quote=Longtimefan]Goes to show how desperate they are to win. Desperate people do desperate things. Jerry the Joke is a dsesperate man.[/quote]

Yep. I was watching an interview on the ESPN draft special last night and JJ even used the words desparate. Desparate people rarely make the right decision.........hopefully that holds true with the Cowgirls.......looking good so far.

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[quote=That Guy]that 99% number is pure BS. we have under 70 guys, if one misses, its below 99% and if everyone makes it, it'd be 100%... that's just a number pulled out of a hat to make people feel good.[/quote]
69/70= 98.57%, which rounds up to 99%

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Let the fun begin. Hopefully after the Cowboys are done with him he will sign with the Giants.:FIREdevil

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BTW >>>>>> 69/70 is 98.5% which round up is 99%

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Ultimately, Jerry will not be able to keep both Parcells, and the Cancer, as they will NOT co-exist. I believe that is what's called a Win-Win!

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[quote=That Guy]that 99% number is pure BS. we have under 70 guys, if one misses, its below 99% and if everyone makes it, it'd be 100%... that's just a number pulled out of a hat to make people feel good.[/quote]

it could also be a projected average attendence.

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[quote=firstdown]I don't read to much into this stuff. These writers (as we all know) will try and make something a big deal when in fact it is not. I believe TO has always worked with his owen trainer so this is realy nothing new. I do not like TO but he is always in shape and ready to play. Its been his mouth that has caused all the problems not his conditioning and wort ethics.[/quote]

I agree, this isn't any big deal, they just have to cover it because 1) we'll read it, 2) there's little else goin on, & 3) it could be the start of TO's antics, which we know can lead to bigger things
NOw, if he's at odds w/the tuna come training camp, that could be the start of something.

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[quote=freddyg12]I agree, this isn't any big deal, they just have to cover it because 1) we'll read it, 2) there's little else goin on, & 3) it could be the start of TO's antics, which we know can lead to bigger things
NOw, if he's at odds w/the tuna come training camp, that could be the start of something.[/quote]I agree but I don't think it would start prior to the season starting. TO does pratice and plays hard which the Tuna will love but when the season starts that could be a whole new ball game.

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im sure they are thrilled to dealth over TO thus far.
then again it,s the cowboys problem not ours thank you very much.
trying to babysit a ego star is going to be hard to do.


like meshawn throw me the damn ball or else.

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I love T.O., he's my favorite player...before you know it we'll be saying 2 down and one to go as he makes his way to reak havok on the Giants. HAHAHA

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TO did work pretty hard to help the redskins last year ;) Hopefully he'll continue to be productive for us.

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please no more T.O. threads

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[quote=dmek25]please no more T.O. threads[/quote]

they only come up when he's doing something wrong, which mean TO thread, while milddly irritating, should make us happy due to the gauranteed wrongdoings committed against a hated rival that such threads would entail.

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just like he said "i love me some me"thank god we didnt go after this moron

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Nothing that anyone is concerned about. Owens' mouth has forever tatoo'd a target on is head with the media, if a writer wants his article read, all he has to do is write about T.O..

But that not withstanding, there are more than a few players that do not participate in the Cowboys off-season program and prefer to conduct their own off-season training regimine. Drew Bledsoe is also one of those who does not participate in the off-season program. It is only when a player is obviuosly out of shape that Parcells gets "irked" about it. Point-in-fact was Larry Allen. He had a terrible time keeping in shape in the off-season and he and Parcells were always at odds about Allens commitment to the off-season program.

Much like Sean Taylor last season, was partcipating in his own off-season program in Miami when he had that unfortunate incident involving his ATV's. As argument can be made that if he was at the Redskins facility participating in the off-season program, he would not be in the mess he is in now.

Jeremy Shockey is another guy that goes to Miami for the off-season and does not participate in the Giants off-season program.

These off-season programs are VOLUNTARY, and participation is not required. And you do not see sports writers writing about Taylor last season when he went to Miami for the off-season, or Shockey when he goes to Miami or Bledsoe because he does not participate in the Cowboys structured off-season regime.

Soley because Owens tatto'd that target on his head is the reason you read articles like this. That and it is an article that will be read by a lot of people.

And it would be hard to argue that Owens is not in shape or does not take care of himself.

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Actually we did see sports writers writing about Taylor, but that's neither here nor there and I do expect TO to come in great shape to camp.

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Owens will come ready to play. He hasent shown us anything YET...... I am waiting for something to happen but until something does the media will contunue to pounce on every little thing just like this.

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[quote=sandtrapjack]Nothing that anyone is concerned about. Owens' mouth has forever tatoo'd a target on is head with the media, if a writer wants his article read, all he has to do is write about T.O..

But that not withstanding, there are more than a few players that do not participate in the Cowboys off-season program and prefer to conduct their own off-season training regimine. Drew Bledsoe is also one of those who does not participate in the off-season program. It is only when a player is obviuosly out of shape that Parcells gets "irked" about it. Point-in-fact was Larry Allen. He had a terrible time keeping in shape in the off-season and he and Parcells were always at odds about Allens commitment to the off-season program.

Much like Sean Taylor last season, was partcipating in his own off-season program in Miami when he had that unfortunate incident involving his ATV's. As argument can be made that if he was at the Redskins facility participating in the off-season program, he would not be in the mess he is in now.

Jeremy Shockey is another guy that goes to Miami for the off-season and does not participate in the Giants off-season program.

These off-season programs are [B]VOLUNTARY[/B], and participation is not required. And you do not see sports writers writing about Taylor last season when he went to Miami for the off-season, or Shockey when he goes to Miami or Bledsoe because he does not participate in the Cowboys structured off-season regime.

Soley because Owens tatto'd that target on his head is the reason you read articles like this. That and it is an article that will be read by a lot of people.

And it would be hard to argue that Owens is not in shape or does not take care of himself.[/quote]

While I agree Owens will show up in great shape it seems to me whenever you join a new team you should try to build some chemistry as quickly as possible. Also in regards to [B]VOLUNTARY [/B]workouts go i believe Marcus Washington said it best last year:
Despite the voluntary nature of these workouts, numerous players said they consider it part of their job responsibilities to be here. As Pro Bowl linebacker Marcus Washington put it: "It's pretty voluntary, like if your wife or girlfriend tells you . . . [not to] get her nothing for her birthday, and then if you don't come home with a present, you know you're in trouble. It's kind of like that." [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35473-2005Apr7.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35473-2005Apr7.html[/URL]

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[quote=Wanga Skins]While I agree Owens will show up in great shape it seems to me whenever you join a new team you should try to build some chemistry as quickly as possible. Also in regards to [B]VOLUNTARY [/B]workouts go i believe Marcus Washington said it best last year:
Despite the voluntary nature of these workouts, numerous players said they consider it part of their job responsibilities to be here. As Pro Bowl linebacker Marcus Washington put it: "It's pretty voluntary, like if your wife or girlfriend tells you . . . [not to] get her nothing for her birthday, and then if you don't come home with a present, you know you're in trouble. It's kind of like that." [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35473-2005Apr7.html"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35473-2005Apr7.html[/URL][/quote]

I agree with you man and it makes a better team to work together but some player feel that this offseason programs don't attack what they're trying to gain i nthe offseason and all this markee players go and try to attack and play with other markee players or with their personal trainers in the offseason to get better. Like E. James, Taylor, Portis, Shockley and other did last year and we call all agree they upgraded last season.

It has work for Owen's in the past (in the physical point of view) and he only has to get 40hrs of this voluntary works wich his doing and he only gets in Parcell's dog house is if you don't do the 40 and come 2 camp in bad shape wich we all know Owen's never does.

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Actually Portis was at Skins camp the WHOLE time for 100% of voluntary workouts. He was not in Miami with the rest of them.

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[quote=D'BOYZ]I agree with you man and it makes a better team to work together but some player feel that this offseason programs don't attack what they're trying to gain i nthe offseason and all this markee players go and try to attack and play with other markee players or with their personal trainers in the offseason to get better. Like E. James, Taylor, Portis, Shockley and other did last year and we call all agree they upgraded last season.

It has work for Owen's in the past (in the physical point of view) and he only has to get 40hrs of this voluntary works wich his doing and he only gets in Parcell's dog house is if you don't do the 40 and come 2 camp in bad shape wich we all know Owen's never does.[/quote]

portis was here all last year and this year as well. taylor skipped last year (he wasn't working out at the U either), but he's here this year.

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If anything TO NOT being there might not cause a distraction, but I bet ALL the Skins being there will give them an edge over the competition.

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[quote=sandtrapjack]Nothing that anyone is concerned about. Owens' mouth has forever tatoo'd a target on is head with the media, if a writer wants his article read, all he has to do is write about T.O..

But that not withstanding, there are more than a few players that do not participate in the Cowboys off-season program and prefer to conduct their own off-season training regimine. Drew Bledsoe is also one of those who does not participate in the off-season program. It is only when a player is obviuosly out of shape that Parcells gets "irked" about it. Point-in-fact was Larry Allen. He had a terrible time keeping in shape in the off-season and he and Parcells were always at odds about Allens commitment to the off-season program.

Much like Sean Taylor last season, was partcipating in his own off-season program in Miami when he had that unfortunate incident involving his ATV's. As argument can be made that if he was at the Redskins facility participating in the off-season program, he would not be in the mess he is in now.

Jeremy Shockey is another guy that goes to Miami for the off-season and does not participate in the Giants off-season program.

These off-season programs are VOLUNTARY, and participation is not required. And you do not see sports writers writing about Taylor last season when he went to Miami for the off-season, or Shockey when he goes to Miami or Bledsoe because he does not participate in the Cowboys structured off-season regime.

Soley because Owens tatto'd that target on his head is the reason you read articles like this. That and it is an article that will be read by a lot of people.

And it would be hard to argue that Owens is not in shape or does not take care of himself.[/quote]

Guess what, they're not REALLY voluntary. You're naive if you believe so. Every player is EXPECTED to be there.

I can't wait to see this jerk do a dance on the Philly midfield Eagle. He'll be lucky to make it out of that stadium with his limbs intact.

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[QUOTE][B][I]Section 1.[/I]Voluntary Workouts:[/B] No player shall be required to attend or participate in any off‑season workout program or classroom instruction of a Club other than as provided in Article XXXVI (Minicamps). Any other Club off‑season workout programs and classroom instruction sessions shall be voluntary and take place in the manner and time period set forth in this Article.
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That is a [U]direct quote from Article XXXV, Section 1 of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement[/U] regarding off-season workouts. They are voluntary, and even though players are "expected" to attend, as you say, the players cannot be held accountable for not attending.

Now I am not saying that it is "OK" to not participate, I think that the players should do just that. But many of your top-tier players in the league conduct thier own off-season program because they have hired a personal trainer that in many cases is better than the teams weight training staff and costs considerably more then the team wants to pay for one weight coach on the teams training staff.

Just because they are not participating this early does not mean they are sitting on the couch with a bag of chips playing MADDEN all day waiting for minicamps to start.

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This is much to do about nothing.

TO will be there when he's required to, and he'll be in top shape as he always is.

I haven't heard Parcells say anything about this, if he's not complaining it's not a problem.

It's a given that TO will become some sort of a problem and/or distraction at some point in Dallas, but right now he's not.

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TO is not being a good team player. This is as shocking as the revelation of gambling at Rick's (Casablanca reference).

The funny part of this thread is reading Sandtrap trying to justify TO's selfish coach/qb/team killing approach to life. It's the same kind of delusional BS that was coming out philly fans a year ago.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."