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hooskins 04-19-2006 06:21 PM

Redskins team needs
 
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Washington Redskins Team Needs Frank Coyle, Special to Rivals.com
[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/was/"]Washington Redskins[/URL] (10-6)
Head Coach – Joe Gibbs – Third Year

Key needs:
1. Linebacker
2. Cornerback
3. Tight end
4. Defensive tackle
5. Offensive lineman

1. Linebacker - The Redskins and Lavar Arrington parted ways this offseason. He was a disgruntled player last season and was limited to a role player in their base defense. They have little depth behind starters here and hope to draft into the deepest area of talent this April. In the second round they probably will get a chance at linebackers like Thomas Howard, Roger McIntosh and [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7679/"]Jon Alston[/URL]. They have attempted to sign free agents at this position and may yet, though most likely just stop-gap veterans while addressing this unit in the draft.

2. Cornerback - The loss of [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3523/"]Walt Harris[/URL] has created a major need on a unit with little depth. They are considering moving up in the second round in an attempt to get a chance at one of the top prospects who falls out of the first round - like Kelly Jennings or Johnathan Joseph. With little room to trade other than next year’s draft choices, look for them to possibly package several picks to move up to obtain one of the above mentioned cover men. At the 53rd overall pick, they have Richard Marshall and Cedric Griffin on their short list.

3. Tight End - The Redskins love Anthony Fasano and Marcedes Lewis and see them as early starters in their multiple set attack. Fasano may be the more developed and all around prospect, though Lewis is a terrific red zone receiver who head coach Joe Gibbs would utilize to the fullest.

4. Defensive Tackle - The Redskins’ front four did a fine job last fall and was instrumental in the success of the defense. They have little depth though, and would like to add a quality prospect to their line rotation. Their front four went through a rebuilding over recent years with fine results - especially the addition of defensive tackle [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5071/"]Cornelius Griffin[/URL] and defensive end [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3634/"]Phillip Daniels[/URL] who provided big plays. Their presence improved their overall pass pressure. They like DT John McCargo and Jonathan Lewis in the mid-to-late first day area.

5. Offensive Line - Washington has added several offensive linemen in the recent late rounds with little success. They may attempt to address this on the first day, though they have only two picks in the top 150 selections and have higher priorities at several other positions. This position will most likely be addressed on the second day of the draft.

Insiders’ Insights
The Redskins made news right from the start of the free agency period with several big signings and a key trade. They brought in wideouts [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5948/"]Antwaan Randle El[/URL] and [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6460/"]Brandon Lloyd[/URL] - who are excellent fits for a Gibbs offense though the price in dollars and draft picks was high. They hold only two picks in the top 150 selections but eight draft choices overall. They have needs at selective spots on defense that could dictate most of their early decisions. They were aggressive in free agency this winter and have shown the ability to make big trades for the right players in the NFL Draft using future draft selections. They should address their back seven on defense with their early selections, and the availability of the highest rated prospect may dictate which direction they choose.

Second-round pick - LB - Thomas Howard - UTEP – Speedy athlete would be a good fit for this defense.

Alternate pick - LB – Jon Alston - Stanford – Fast rising defender may be the highest rated player left at this need position.

hooskins 04-19-2006 06:25 PM

Re: Redskins team needs
 
I agree mostly with what this is saying, but I am not sure that TE is in our top 3 priorities. We have Cooley, Fauria, and that other guy that was interviewed at redskins.com(forgot his name). We seem to have depth in that position, and I would think we would go for a D or O-lineman before that.

freddyg12 04-19-2006 06:55 PM

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[quote=hooskins]I agree mostly with what this is saying, but I am not sure that TE is in our top 3 priorities. We have Cooley, Fauria, and that other guy that was interviewed at redskins.com(forgot his name). We seem to have depth in that position, and I would think we would go for a D or O-lineman before that.[/quote]

Robert Johnson?
TE isn't an immediate position of need like LB & CB, but it definitely is. Cooley play H-back (assuming the Gibbs' offensive set remains), and Fauria is old & not a long-term solution. Since Gibbs has been back this has been a sore spot I believe, we don't have that reliable D. Warren/Doc Walker type that blocks the best LB on the field all day & doesn't complain about not getting the ball thrown his way. The TE can be an essential part of the O line.
I agree w/most of his analysis as well, good post. Seems an objective review too.

Wanga Skins 04-19-2006 07:18 PM

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[quote=hooskins]
2. Cornerback - The loss of [URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3523/"]Walt Harris[/URL] has created a major need on a unit with little depth. They are considering moving up in the second round in an attempt to get a chance at one of the top prospects who falls out of the first round - like Kelly Jennings or Johnathan Joseph. With little room to trade other than next year’s draft choices, look for them to possibly package several picks to move up to obtain one of the above mentioned cover men. At the 53rd overall pick, they have Richard Marshall and Cedric Griffin on their short list. [/quote]

MAJOR need? I think an average nickel corner with subpar tackling skills can easily be replaced. Nevermind he already has been replaced, Kenny Wright anyone.

bigm29 04-19-2006 07:27 PM

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as far as tight end, if anyone has noticed on the redskins roster they changed chris cooley from HB to TE and changed Mike Sellers to a FB. This is Al Saunders system now. so with Cooley and Fauria as our tight ends think were straight at tight end

theJBexperience 04-19-2006 07:59 PM

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I like Richard Marshall if we go CB. He's a playmaker, and our D didn't have that many big plays til the end of the season, which is when we need them most obviously, but I think Marshall could force some turnovers.

I think we're going to draft an LB though, so I'd like to see DeMeco Ryans wind up with us. He's an intelligent and intense player. He'll be a solid contributor wherever he's plugged in.

Both of these guys would most likely have to drop though for us to wind up with them.

hooskins 04-19-2006 08:26 PM

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[quote=freddyg12]Robert Johnson?
TE isn't an immediate position of need like LB & CB, but it definitely is. Cooley play H-back (assuming the Gibbs' offensive set remains), and Fauria is old & not a long-term solution. Since Gibbs has been back this has been a sore spot I believe, we don't have that reliable D. Warren/Doc Walker type that blocks the best LB on the field all day & doesn't complain about not getting the ball thrown his way. The TE can be an essential part of the O line.
I agree w/most of his analysis as well, good post. Seems an objective review too.[/quote]

I guess TE then becomes a long term need, that the Skins should try to get at the bottom of the drat.

GTripp0012 04-19-2006 08:40 PM

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I don't know if it's a long term need as much as it's a current, less important need. If you want to talk about guys on the offensive side of the ball that we could and would take who would be starters this year, I think that list starts and ends with Anthony Fasano. Hes a good blocker, great reciever, and could challenge Fauria right away.

Pocket$ $traight 04-19-2006 10:17 PM

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Another tight end would be a waste of a pick. Just feed the receivers. I would rather see balls going to Patten as the #4 then a rookie tight end.

That Guy 04-19-2006 11:10 PM

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i think TE is just the fallback if everyone else is gone. This guy is going by what the team has done, who they're actually brought in etc.

we have 7 picks though (2,5,6,6,6,7,7) not 8.

Sociofan 04-19-2006 11:31 PM

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If they were to go LB in the 2nd, I think they will go for Rocky McIntosh at 53 (they seem to have a love affair with Miami these days). Howard will be gone. I'm a little worried about the CB position though. I don't think there will be a quality guy on the board when pick number 153 rolls around. So, my prediction is that they will scour the FA wires for another LB and go CB in the 2nd. Griffin (Texas) or Hester (Miami). The better of the two remaining on the board. I'd love to see them get Youboty just for the sake of saying his name on a regular basis :thumb: , but I think he'll be gone by then.

jordanz301 04-19-2006 11:42 PM

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i thinnk were ok at cb if shawn springs can stay healthy. bringing in kennyy wright was one of our best moves, he was a #2 corner at jacksonville, and hes going to be our nickel. so we have a #2 capable guy being a number#3 with shawn, carlos, kenny, and ade we should be ok, maybe we should bring in a half decent guy in the 2nd day just for depth. i think our major concern is LB, even tho we have holdman, clemons, mccune, campbell, we should bring in a rookie so they can battle over the position. were fine at tight end, christian fauria is a great blocking tight end and decent catcher, cooleys our catching tight end, i prefer taller nd more athletic tight ends but i think hes fine.we need depth at d line we need a PUNTER AND A KICKER dont 4get about those two!

That Guy 04-19-2006 11:52 PM

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we have lots of young LBs with multi year deals, at CB we got 1 guy on a 1year, 1 old guy, and 1 young guy. (the ade is okay, but i wouldn't want him as my #3). CB definately isn't out of the question.

dirthogs311 04-20-2006 11:15 AM

Re: Redskins team needs
 
What about safety?? We had 5 safeties on the roster and now he only have 3 proven safeties, we need to pick up another safety. We lost Bowen, Clark and Stoutmire. We currently have 4 S's, 6 cb's 4 TE's 5 DT's and 8 lb's on the roster. Thoughts...

That Guy 04-20-2006 11:29 AM

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[quote=dirthogs311]What about safety?? We had 5 safeties on the roster and now he only have 3 proven safeties, we need to pick up another safety. We lost Bowen, Clark and Stoutmire. We currently have 4 S's, 6 cb's 4 TE's 5 DT's and 8 lb's on the roster. Thoughts...[/quote]

instead of total bodies, you should use reliable players.

-at cb there's 2-4 spots (usually 2-3), and we have 4 guys and 1 decent sub (ade) (4th = pierson)
-at TE there are 1-2 spots (depending on formation) and we have 2 guys with a decent sub (sellers/johnson)
-at DT there are 2 spots, and we have 3 guys with a decent sub (killings)
-at LB there are 2-4 spots (usually 3) and we have 2 guys with 2.5 decent subs (khary + mccune = .5)
-at S there 2 spots and we have 3 guys


you always want better depth everywhere, but LB has the biggest hole, and CB doesn't have a clear future. a safety wouldn't be terrible, but we've got young guys on long term contracts there, a quality backup, and emergency plans (jimoh or springs) as well.

dirthogs311 04-20-2006 11:34 AM

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[quote=That Guy]instead of total bodies, you should use reliable players.

-at cb there's 2-4 spots (usually 2-3), and we have 4 guys and 1 decent sub (ade) (4th = pierson)
-at TE there are 1-2 spots (depending on formation) and we have 2 guys with a decent sub (sellers/johnson)
-at DT there are 2 spots, and we have 3 guys with a decent sub (killings)
-at LB there are 2-4 spots (usually 3) and we have 2 guys with 2.5 decent subs (khary + mccune = .5)
-at S there 2 spots and we have 3 guys


you always want better depth everywhere, but LB has the biggest hole, and CB doesn't have a clear future. a safety wouldn't be terrible, but we've got young guys on long term contracts there, a quality backup, and emergency plans (jimoh or springs) as well.[/quote]

Actually we have 4 safeties: Taylor Archuletta Prioleau and Burns

That Guy 04-20-2006 11:54 AM

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[quote=dirthogs311]Actually we have 4 safeties: Taylor Archuletta Prioleau and Burns[/quote]

you read where i said you should only count reliable players right above that list right?

dirthogs311 04-20-2006 11:59 AM

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[quote=That Guy]you read where i said you should only count reliable players right above that list right?[/quote]

Right, but you you had prioleau in the wrong spot, you had him at corner is all i was saying.

budw38 04-20-2006 05:04 PM

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I think we are fine at cb . Springs is playing at a hi level , Rogers has a full year now and Wright has better legs than Harris . Jimoh and Patterson looked good last year when they had to go in late in the season . We need a pass rusher more than anything on D . I still have nightmares of ,,,, Q. Carter , K. Collins and even Vinny < at 41 yrs old > beating us deep because we could not mount a pass rush . Most of our D-Linemen are over 30 .

That Guy 04-20-2006 07:51 PM

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[quote=dirthogs311]Right, but you you had prioleau in the wrong spot, you had him at corner is all i was saying.[/quote]

i had him at both. he was our #4 CB last year and a afety.

PSUSkinsFan21 04-21-2006 10:24 AM

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To me, the dropoff from how much we need a LB and CB to the next position (TE, S, Oline) is a huge dropoff. If we go anything other than LB or CB in round 2, I'm not going to be a happy camper (unless, of course, they can still make a free agency move in those positions before the draft).

CBs get injured all the time.....what do we do when one of our top 3 guys goes down? Who's our nickleback then? Ade? Seriously, I'd like some more depth there.

At LB, I still don't think we have a reliable starter at weakside OLB. Holdman was terrible last year (we can hope he'll be better, but if he's not he can single-handedly lose us a game or two by giving up a 70 TD run to guys like Tiki and J.Jones). Can one of our other younger guys step up? Maybe, but I certainly haven't seen it yet. At least when we lost Trotter, Pierce had already shown signs of being solid. We lost Armstead, but we got Washington. When we lost Pierce, Marshall had already shown signs of being solid. Now we've lost Arrington, and ??????? So LB is a concern to me.

TE? I don't see this as a need at all. We have a decent blocking TE in Fauria and Cooley handles the pass-catching duty.

Safety? Not really concerned. We have two solid starters, some decent backups, and filling in for a starting safety just isn't as important as filling in for a CB when your starter goes down.

O-line? I see a real need for some solid depth, but using our highest draft pick for o-line depth doesn't make much sense to me when you have needs like LB and CB too. I wish we had the luxury of drafting a solid backup OG/OT in the second round, but I don't think we do.

diehardskin2982 04-21-2006 10:40 AM

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how about a true fullback the only one we have is rock cartright, that is why his contract was extended

RiggoRules 04-21-2006 11:10 AM

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This team's number one need will not be addressed and could not be addressed via the draft: Improvement at QB.

It COULD all work out (and I pray it does). But the overwhelming probabilities are that the QB position is the landmine that blows up the season.

This position is very thin and brittle.

That Guy 04-21-2006 11:25 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982]how about a true fullback the only one we have is rock cartright, that is why his contract was extended[/quote]

mike sellers is a much better run blocker and he's 280lbs. and if you want a pass catcher, stick cooley back there. FB is most definately NOT a need in my eyes ;)

offiss 04-21-2006 04:05 PM

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I would go after an offensive linemen or a CB, with the second rd pick, or a D-tackle or end, but I would take the best available player amoungst that group, I think we can find an athletic LB later in the draft that Williams can mold in a short time.


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