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Beemnseven 04-20-2006 04:31 PM

Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
I'm sure That Guy will pick this apart, but I got thinking about the 2001 draft when we took Rod Gardner with the 15th pick. Take a look at the other wideouts taken in the first round that year, and a few that followed in the later rounds:

[B]2001 - 1st Round Wide Receivers [/B](listed in the order they were taken)

David Terrell
Koren Robinson
Rod Gardner
Santana Moss
Freddie Mitchell
Reggie Wayne

[B]2001 - 2nd Round Wide Receivers[/B]

Quincy Morgan
Chad Johnson
Robert Ferguson
Chris Chambers

[B]2001 - 3rd Round Wide Receivers[/B]

Steve Smith
Marvin Minnis

___________

In the first round, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne were the only wideouts who weren't busts. Think about that: [I]Only 2[/I] out of the so-called "top 6" of that particular draft have amounted to anything. The superstar wide receivers in the league right now, Steve Smith and Chad Johnson were picked up much later.

Just an illustration of how the draft is truly a crapshoot.

gibbsisgod 04-20-2006 04:36 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[quote=Beemnseven]I'm sure That Guy will pick this apart, but I got thinking about the 2001 draft when we took Rod Gardner with the 15th pick. Take a look at the other wideouts taken in the first round that year, and a few that followed in the later rounds:

[B]2001 - 1st Round Wide Receivers [/B](listed in the order they were taken)

David Terrell
Koren Robinson
Rod Gardner
Santana Moss
Freddie Mitchell
Reggie Wayne

[B]2001 - 2nd Round Wide Receivers[/B]

Quincy Morgan
Chad Johnson
Robert Ferguson
Chris Chambers

[B]2001 - 3rd Round Wide Receivers[/B]

Steve Smith
Marvin Minnis

___________

In the first round, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne were the only wideouts who weren't busts. Think about that: [I]Only 2[/I] out of the so-called "top 6" of that particular draft have amounted to anything. The superstar wide receivers in the league right now, Steve Smith and Chad Johnson were picked up much later.

Just an illustration of how the draft is truly a crapshoot.[/quote]i cant believe we passed on fred-ex

dirthogs311 04-20-2006 04:38 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
Its amazing to me that we passed over Moss, Wayne, Johnson, Chambers, and Smith. Wow, WTF were we thinkin!

JankySpanky80 04-20-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
i think koren robinson still may have a decent career with the vikes. he was a special teamer last year and made the pro bowl. He gets back the number 1 slot this year so the jury is still out on him despite a terrible start with seattle.

shallyshal 04-20-2006 05:36 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven]I'm sure That Guy will pick this apart, but I got thinking about the 2001 draft when we took Rod Gardner with the 15th pick. Take a look at the other wideouts taken in the first round that year, and a few that followed in the later rounds:

[B]2001 - 1st Round Wide Receivers [/B](listed in the order they were taken)

David Terrell
Koren Robinson
Rod Gardner
Santana Moss
Freddie Mitchell
Reggie Wayne

[B]2001 - 2nd Round Wide Receivers[/B]

Quincy Morgan
Chad Johnson
Robert Ferguson
Chris Chambers

[B]2001 - 3rd Round Wide Receivers[/B]

Steve Smith
Marvin Minnis

___________

In the first round, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne were the only wideouts who weren't busts. Think about that: [I]Only 2[/I] out of the so-called "top 6" of that particular draft have amounted to anything. The superstar wide receivers in the league right now, Steve Smith and Chad Johnson were picked up much later.

Just an illustration of how the draft is truly a crapshoot.[/QUOTE]

always is with wideouts.. but koren is no bust as long as he gets his side issues under control

JankySpanky80 04-20-2006 05:40 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
you really never know what your gonna get when you draft a QB or WR.

jamf 04-20-2006 06:07 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[QUOTE=dirthogs311]....Wow, WTF were we thinkin![/QUOTE]
Schottenheimer was thinking "Man that gardner is a stud!"

skinsfanthru&thru 04-20-2006 06:22 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
the draft is such a crap shoot cuz no matter how great someone looks in college, u honestly can't tell who will work out in now-a-days NFL where u don't have 2-3 years to develop a player especially in the first round.

That Guy 04-20-2006 08:28 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
Guys from 94-99 still in the league with at least 1 1k receiving season:

1994
1 21 Johnnie Morton

1995
1 8 Joey Galloway

1996
1 1 Keyshawn Johnson
1 7 Terry Glenn
1 18 Eddie Kennison
1 19 Marvin Harrison
1 24 Eric Moulds
2 4 Amani Toomer
2 13 Mushin Muhammed
2 28 Terrell Owens
5 3 Joe Horn

1997
1 7 Ike Hilliard
4 2 Derrick Mason

1998
1 21 Randy Moss
3 31 Hines Ward

1999
1 6 Torry Holt
1 8 David Boston
2 1 Kevin Johnson
2 22 Peerless Price
3 17 Marty Booker
4 10 Brandon Stokley
7 7 Donald Driver


WR drafts seem to be hot and cold. 2004 was a good draft:
1 3 3 Larry Fitzgerald
1 7 7 Roy Williams
1 13 13 Lee Evans
1 15 15 Michael Clayton

2003 was deep too (Andre Johnson, Bethel Johnson, Anquan Boldin, Kevin Curtis, Brandon Lloyd)

the more current you get the harder it is to judge, but WRs are VERY VERY unpredictable. the number that don't even make it to their 3rd or 4th season is crazy, not to mention those that are actually productive. There's still is a strong correlation between 1st rounders and longevity though. Its very possible for 1st rounders to flame out horribly, but it is less likely, and that's all i've been saying. Being drafted later doesn't magically protect you from being useless.

SmootSmack 04-20-2006 09:11 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]2003 was deep too (Andre Johnson, Bethel Johnson, Anquan Boldin, Kevin Curtis, Brandon Lloyd)[/QUOTE]

All those guys plus Nate Burleson, Shaun McDonald and Doug Gabriel selected after Taylor Jacobs. :doh:

Beemnseven 04-20-2006 09:34 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[QUOTE=jamf]Schottenheimer was thinking "Man that gardner is a stud!"[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Funny thing though, at the time, I was thinking the same thing.

Steve Hutchinson was taken two picks later by the Seahawks. But I remember wanting a wide receiver something fierce.

I agree about Koren Robinson. And you have to wonder what could have been for David Terrell if he'd ever had a QB in Chicago to throw the ball to him.

MTK 04-20-2006 09:51 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
RG did have a 1000 yard season with us... it was always a bit of a mystery to me why he didn't pan out and become a better pro than he did. There's still time I guess.

You look at the guy and you just think, damn he's got the size and ability, what the hell is going on?

He's a Westbrook Jr. without the punk attitude.

theJBexperience 04-20-2006 10:08 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[quote=TAFKAS]All those guys plus Nate Burleson, Shaun McDonald and Doug Gabriel selected after Taylor Jacobs. :doh:[/quote]

At the time, I was so psyched that Taylor Jacobs dropped to us too.

skinsfanthru&thru 04-21-2006 12:14 AM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
I can't believe joe horn fell to the 5th round the year he was drafted and donald driver went in the 7th!

mooby 04-21-2006 12:38 AM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
i think 1996 was one of the best wide receiver draft classes in history.

dmek25 04-21-2006 06:45 AM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
with all the testing done before the draft,someone couldnt figure out that gardner was a bonehead?

That Guy 04-21-2006 09:24 AM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[quote=TAFKAS]All those guys plus Nate Burleson, Shaun McDonald and Doug Gabriel selected after Taylor Jacobs. :doh:[/quote]
yeah, if you asked someone today, who would you rather have:
Taylor Jacobs (105 yards a year)
OR
Anquan Bolden (1134 yard a year)

we had our choice of WRs :/

1996 is probably one (if not the) best WR drafts ever.

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FRPLG 04-21-2006 11:03 AM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
WRs are the biggest unknowns. The position is so athletic that in college the best WRs are simply the most athletic guys who can just dominate over the mostly low quality secondaries.
But i the NFL the WRs actually have to have some intangible talents beyond simple athletic ability. I think these talents are highly "intangible" and hard to scout.

memphisskin 04-21-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[QUOTE=dirthogs311]Its amazing to me that we passed over Moss, Wayne, Johnson, Chambers, and Smith. Wow, WTF were we thinkin![/QUOTE]

I remember Moss was Danny's guy, he flew around scouting him and that's who he really wanted. Schottenheimer was looking for a bigger wideout to help block down the field, plus Gardner had the size, speed just not the hands. I'm with Matty on this one, wtf happened?

This is just more confirmation that we should draft defense early and offense late, just like Gibbs has been doing.

amorentz 04-21-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[quote=dirthogs311]Its amazing to me that we passed over Moss, Wayne, Johnson, Chambers, and Smith. Wow, WTF were we thinkin![/quote]

Rumor has it that Moss was the guy Snyder really wanted, but Marty had total control then, I believe. Thats why he was apparently so psyched to trade for him from the Jets. Good call Danny!!!

amorentz 04-21-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Something to Ponder -- 2001 WR draft picks
 
[quote=memphisskin]I remember Moss was Danny's guy, he flew around scouting him and that's who he really wanted. Schottenheimer was looking for a bigger wideout to help block down the field, plus Gardner had the size, speed just not the hands. I'm with Matty on this one, wtf happened?

This is just more confirmation that we should draft defense early and offense late, just like Gibbs has been doing.[/quote]

Damn! Beat me to it! :cussing:


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