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That Guy 04-21-2006 09:38 AM

Jai Lewis Workout Information/Results
 
[B]NFL | 11 teams attend J. Lewis workout[/B]
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:25:55 -0700

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports seven teams were expected at the workout of George Mason basketball player Jai Lewis, but 11 teams showed up. Lewis looked more like an offensive tackle than a tight end at his workout. He measured in at 6-5 ½ and 292 pounds. He ran his 40s in 4.99 and 5.03.


[B]Bengals | Team takes J. Lewis back to Cincinnati[/B]
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:18:43 -0700

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports the Cincinnati Bengals were at the workout of George Mason basketball player Jai Lewis Thursday, April 20. They liked him so much they flew him back to Cincinnati for further workouts.


[B]NFL | More about J. Lewis workout[/B]
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:00:13 -0700

The Washington Post reports George Mason basketball player Jai Lewis finished his 20-yard shuttle drill in approximately 4.6 seconds during his workout for NFL scouts Thursday, April 20. Lewis was tested in the vertical jump, reaching about 28 inches, and in the standing broad jump, traveling about 8 feet 8 inches. He has not yet started weight training and did not do the bench press, a standard pre-draft exercise. Speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of player assessments, several scouts said Lewis has ample room for improvement and will need to convince NFL teams that he hungers for the aggression and violence of professional football. Still, they said his athleticism and explosiveness were impressive, particularly after he left the track surface for the football turf. Lewis went through drills for defensive ends, tight ends and offensive linemen, but scouts said his attributes and 6-foot-5, 292-pound frame likely were best suited for the offensive line.



He's been trying for TE, but it looks like he's a better fit (stat wise) for OL.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-21-2006 09:41 AM

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I honestly don't see how you can just turn someone into an offensive lineman. I mean I can see a pass-catching TE, but turning OL would be a HUGE transition.

PSUSkinsFan21 04-21-2006 09:53 AM

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If they try sticking him on the OLine he'll get eaten alive by today's NFL linemen. MC is right, teaching him routes and saying go out there and catch the ball is one thing.........trying to get a guy up to speed on blocking techniques and schemes is a whole different animal. There are guys in this draft that have been playing Oline their whole lives and still need to work on these aspects.

Schneed10 04-21-2006 09:57 AM

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There's no prior case that I can recall in which a basketball player has transitioned to offensive or defensive line. That concept is just nuts. TE is doable if you're an exceptional athlete, but not OL or DL.

RTerps2002 04-21-2006 10:02 AM

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This guy is a good athlete and would be worth looking at in the late rounds... If he is 292 and not lifting weights yet he could be a monster in time

TheMalcolmConnection 04-21-2006 10:03 AM

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The man needs to lose some weight and work on speed, THEN he can be a TE. NO WAY he makes it as OL.

FRPLG 04-21-2006 10:24 AM

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OL? Holy crap what a disaster that could be. MY guess is at best he becomes a World League level player on the OL. MC is right. He needs to drop down about 30 Lbs and become a tightend. If he is as athletic as they say he should be able to do it. Remember he basically had no time to train. All his measurables were straight up with no work. He just started changing his diet last week. I hope he goes un drafted and the Skins give him a training camp invite. He'd be a big hit at Redskins Park.

RiggoRules 04-21-2006 10:33 AM

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Long term project at TE. Maybe the sundial they were using to clock his 40 time (5.0) was off. The idea of putting him at OL or DL is a bit out there.

That Guy 04-21-2006 11:32 AM

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he's played DE before, just as much as at TE, the problem is, he's not fast enough to be anything more than a crappy TE right now, and he can't jump at all. He seems like a long term project right now and not worth the trouble.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-21-2006 11:33 AM

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They were saying he was fairly athletic though. Even though so was Brock Lesnar and we all saw how that worked out.

FRPLG 04-21-2006 11:38 AM

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at 292 he is too big to be a receiving TE. He'd have to get down to 260 or so. If he gets down to 260 his 40 improves by probably 2 or 3 tenths whihc but him in the 4.6-7 range which is totally fine for a TE. It isn't Winslow terrotry but it is faster than Crumpler and about the same as Gates.

And you still have to remember his 40 was untrained. These other guys work for weeks on technique and explosiveness to gain a tenth or two. He's done none of that on a major scale. Not trying to defend the guy but I'd be willing to give this guy some training camp time to get a better idea on his ceiling. 292 Lb guys who can run sub 5 in the 40 are rare.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-21-2006 11:39 AM

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To be honest, I'm cool with the Skins just keeping Robert Johnson. At least he's a football player.

firstdown 04-21-2006 11:44 AM

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I think he'd be a good pick at 53. Do you think he'll drop the far? We need depth on the OL.

freddyg12 04-21-2006 11:47 AM

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I see him on the d-line. He's got good quickness, might be able to make a team as a pass rusher, whether dt or de. He will have problems playing the run, but w/his quickness (as opposed to st. speed) & athleticism, he coule be a good pass rusher in a rotation.
B-ball players should have good lateral movement, which bodes well for the d-line & pass blocking.

Daseal 04-21-2006 12:16 PM

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The reason Larrenega (sp?) sent out letters to all 32 NFL teams about Jai Lewis is because he has the most amazing hands he'd ever seen. I don't see him learning a completely new position (He was an all-state TE in Maryland when he went to highschoool.)

He's also going to have to work to drop some weight, and work on his speed. But if he's able to do that just a bit he'll be able to really win a lot of 1v1's. While playing basketball, they wanted him big to body up and shore up that center. I think some team will take a chance on him, and I'd love to see what he does.

firstdown 04-21-2006 12:20 PM

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What ever happened to that pro wrestler who tried to make it in the NFL last year? When I say pro wrestler maybe I should of said fake wrestler.

FRPLG 04-21-2006 12:36 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown]What ever happened to that pro wrestler who tried to make it in the NFL last year? When I say pro wrestler maybe I should of said fake wrestler.[/QUOTE]
He washed out. Lesnar was a athletic freak but he hadn't played football since highschool and I don't think he was especially good at it even then. Plus he was a giant wuss. Lewis played in highschool and was apparently pretty good.

That Guy 04-21-2006 12:38 PM

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[quote=firstdown]What ever happened to that pro wrestler who tried to make it in the NFL last year? When I say pro wrestler maybe I should of said fake wrestler.[/quote]

didn't make final cut for the vikings.

Lewis is going to probably spend the entire first year just getting in shape. His hands may be good, but he won't be winning any jump balls.

what about as a pass catching fullback? guess he's never done any lead blocking before...

EEich 04-21-2006 01:24 PM

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Ed Nelson

dmek25 04-21-2006 02:08 PM

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why would a team pick him when the attitude is win now?a project at best that could take up to 3-4 seasons before getting anything out of him.there are enough real football players playing that lewis being drafted is a real reach

Daseal 04-21-2006 02:17 PM

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Dmek -- I don't think anyone expects Lewis to get drafted. He'd be an UDFA and fighting for a practice squad spot somewhere. Regardless, he's a cheap pickup who has a really nice potential upside.

dmek25 04-21-2006 02:49 PM

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is the time needed for him to develope really worth picking him up?at best a full 2 seasons before seeing any progress.as stated by many,no way he will be able to play offensive line

That Guy 04-21-2006 06:31 PM

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mel kiper was just on 980 and said jai lewis looks like he'd be more fitted for an OL position when they asked about him.

he also thinks culter is overhyped an went on a 2minute rant on how mayock should stop slurping him when he looks totally average.

he thinks culter and M. lewis are the most likely to disappoint. I'd agree with that.

RTerps2002 04-22-2006 06:49 PM

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Mel Kiper has overhyped his share of bums in the past

GoSkins! 04-22-2006 07:06 PM

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If he runs a sub 5.0 40 and weighs 292, I could see him filling a position like Sellars does now. Maybe worth one of the late 6th round picks.

That Guy 04-22-2006 07:08 PM

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[quote=RTerps2002]Mel Kiper has overhyped his share of bums in the past[/quote]

exactly how is he overhyping jai lewis? he was asked a question and he answered it. I don't think i've heard him bring this guy up even once on his own.

That Guy 04-22-2006 07:09 PM

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[quote=GoSkins!]If he runs a sub 5.0 40 and weighs 292, I could see him filling a position like Sellars does now. Maybe worth one of the late 6th round picks.[/quote]

why waste a 6th round pick on a guy that's not going to be drafted and has no shot of playing at all this year?

GoSkins! 04-22-2006 07:20 PM

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[quote=That Guy]why waste a 6th round pick on a guy that's not going to be drafted and has no shot of playing at all this year?[/quote]

I think of late 6th round picks as projects anyway. He at least seems to have potential. I admit that I dont watch enough college ball to know the names of the guys available after the third round. If there is no chance he gets drafted, then you are right. I guess I should have said we could take a chance on him.

That Guy 04-22-2006 10:42 PM

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[quote=GoSkins!]I think of late 6th round picks as projects anyway. He at least seems to have potential. I admit that I dont watch enough college ball to know the names of the guys available after the third round. If there is no chance he gets drafted, then you are right. I guess I should have said we could take a chance on him.[/quote]

I don't think anyone except maybe the team scouts know anyone after the 3rd in any real capacity to be able to rate and compare them. Its pretty hard to find highlight reels and game tape online, so its just measureables, college stats, and short scouting reports.

some guys in the 6th are OL Will montgomery, the best punters this year (who have all looked shaky at best at the combine - plack, torp, etc), more promising projects (hamilton from VA Tech, has the exact same numbers as sean taylor did (6'2" 4.5, 40"+ vert, etc etc) but without any of the football skills, drouzan quillen (7th round or UDFA - 6'6" 4.5 WR that left college to feed his family)) etc...

EXoffender 04-22-2006 11:10 PM

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Not interested.

RTerps2002 04-23-2006 09:53 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]exactly how is he overhyping jai lewis? he was asked a question and he answered it. I don't think i've heard him bring this guy up even once on his own.[/QUOTE]


He's not overhypeing Lewis he was comming down on Mayoc for overhyping Cutler... Read the whole thread before making comments

saden1 04-23-2006 10:51 AM

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Jai was listed as 6'7" during the tournament. If he is 6'5" that's one hell of a ball player cause you played like a 7 footer. I wonder how many of the other Mason players height was "over estimated?"

As for his prospect at the NFL, until he drops serious weight he is a blocking TE on goal line formations at best.

That Guy 04-23-2006 11:35 AM

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[quote=RTerps2002]He's not overhypeing Lewis he was comming down on Mayoc for overhyping Cutler... Read the whole thread before making comments[/quote]

this thread was about jai lewis, you made no reference and quoted nothing that showed you were responing to my comment about mayock. Maybe you should learn to articulate your point a little better instead of being an ass about it.

jdlea 04-23-2006 12:24 PM

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[QUOTE=saden1]Jai was listed as 6'7" during the tournament. If he is 6'5" that's one hell of a ball player cause you played like a 7 footer. I wonder how many of the other Mason players height was "over estimated?"

As for his prospect at the NFL, until he drops serious weight he is a blocking TE on goal line formations at best.[/QUOTE]

Most basketball players height is over estimated.

dmek25 04-23-2006 12:25 PM

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now, now boys,play nice

Monk-Fan 04-23-2006 01:00 PM

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It seems like teams are willing to take chances on people that have the potential but dont necesarrily have the experience to play the game.

dmek25 04-23-2006 06:16 PM

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yeah,im with you.why a 4 page thread on a non football player?too many actual football players to be bothered with a bball player trying to switch sports

Monk-Fan 04-23-2006 06:33 PM

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Hell i have the potential (the potential to be cut, Ha!), they should give me a shot!

jdlea 04-23-2006 06:56 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25]yeah,im with you.why a 4 page thread on a non football player?too many actual football players to be bothered with a bball player trying to switch sports[/QUOTE]

C'mon, it's the offseason and we don't have a first rounder, there is nothing else to talk about...lol.

RTerps2002 04-23-2006 07:37 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]this thread was about jai lewis, you made no reference and quoted nothing that showed you were responing to my comment about mayock. Maybe you should learn to articulate your point a little better instead of being an ass about it.[/QUOTE]



what are you sleeping with Kiper or something take it easy...


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