F...Homework
 

How does this happen? I have 2 projects and a paper due by Thursday. All of em for different classes, but all due within 1 day of each other. This is bs!! F this!

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I hear ya.

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man, i just need to write 3 papersand have 3 tests between here and graduation, but the stress of having to write it si at an all time high
f papers!

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Unfortunately for me, the paper is the easiest thing I have to do....

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oh the stresses of college life. enjoy that that is all that is stressing you. i miss those days.

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Yeah, seriously. Does anyone ever consider how f*ckin crazy college life actually is? High stress S-Th. Wed (Swiller's night at Quill's), Fri and Sat spent in a drunken stupor with easy girls. It's so much fun taking years off of my life...lol.

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Law school isn't as fun as college was. I have a huge paper due this week and four final exams coming up next week. Then again, I am in my last year and already have a job lined up, so I'm not sweating it too hard.

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[QUOTE=CooleyAsCanBe]Law school isn't as fun as college was. I have a huge paper due this week and four final exams coming up next week. Then again, I am in my last year and already have a job lined up, so I'm not sweating it too hard.[/QUOTE]

Where will you be working?

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yeah, umd is among the top 20 in the catagory "students almost never study". here is the link but you need to be a member [url]http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/rankings/rankingDetails.asp?CategoryID=1&TopicID=4[/url] and those at GMU shouldn't complain about work either as it is in the top 20 also. GMU-15 UMD -17

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Where will you be working?[/QUOTE]

I sold my soul. I'll be working for a firm in D.C. Actually, compared to the other firms I have worked for and interviewed with, this one is the closest to being a "lifestyle firm." (Less billable hours required, no face time, etc...) Which is good, since I am married and have two kids...

I'd rather not give the name publicly, but if you want to know PM me, I highly recommend trying to get a job there for anyone going into law.

Alas, the firm doesn't own Redskins tickets, only Nationals. I used to be a paperboy for the Post, so I was hoping to get some Skins tickets from them before Danny took all their tickets away:) Anyone else go to Wild World on Washinton Post Carrier Day during the 80s and early 90s? Good times.

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I just wrapped up my last paper a week ago...

NO MORE PAPERS, PRESENTATIONS, TESTS, QUIZZES, GROUP PROJECTS, etc., FOR ME!!!

Just call me Mattyk72, MBA

:thumb:

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I just wrapped up my last paper a week ago...

NO MORE PAPERS, PRESENTATIONS, TESTS, QUIZZES, GROUP PROJECTS, etc., FOR ME!!!

Just call me Mattyk72, MBA

:thumb:[/QUOTE]

Way to go Matty. Congrats!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I just wrapped up my last paper a week ago...

NO MORE PAPERS, PRESENTATIONS, TESTS, QUIZZES, GROUP PROJECTS, etc., FOR ME!!!

Just call me Mattyk72, MBA

:thumb:[/QUOTE]

Now it is time to test the debate about whether or not an MBA is worth the investment...

Honestly, congratulations. I can't wait to finish law school. Look at all of us up and coming Warpathians.

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P.S. if any of you post-grads are looking to consolidate your federal student loans, check out [url]www.graduateleverage.com[/url].

They are a company made up of some Harvard students who collectively bargain with lenders to get better rates. I am probably going to consolidate with their recommended lender. They will give me last year's rate (2.875%) and after 36 consecutive payments it will drop to 1.875%. Amazing. I will use the whole 30 years to pay that baby off.

P.S.S. I do not work for them. I am just really excited about getting such a low rate.

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[quote=Mattyk72]I just wrapped up my last paper a week ago...

NO MORE PAPERS, PRESENTATIONS, TESTS, QUIZZES, GROUP PROJECTS, etc., FOR ME!!!

Just call me Mattyk72, MBA

:thumb:[/quote]
Congrats, maybe someday I'll grow up to be like Matty.
THE BSB, MBA I like it. <-- and when it happens that, by the way, will be my username.

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matty, congrats!come join us out here in the real world

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Yes, the real world is great. If you find a job where you get paid well and get 5 week of vacation like I do. ;)

I mean paid "well" in the sense I can get by. Congratulations and good luck!

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I don't miss homework, but shit I work more now than I had homework back when I was in school.

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LOL don't worry I've been in the real world all along, I did my MBA part-time at night, 2 classes per semester for the last 2 years.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yes, the real world is great. If you find a job where you get paid well and get 5 week of vacation like I do. ;)

I mean paid "well" in the sense I can get by. Congratulations and good luck![/QUOTE]

You live in France Malcom?

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this year im taking a management class with homework,and i would trade work in to have schoolwork and homework any day of the week.enjoy your homework because all(well maybe not all)the fun and games stop once you get into the working world

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matty that makes it even more special.enjoy your new status Mr. M.B.A :)

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[quote=CooleyAsCanBe]You live in France Malcom?[/quote]

Nah, where I work when you're "administrative" you get 5 weeks of vacation.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]
Just call me Mattyk72, MBA

:thumb:[/QUOTE]

congrats on the mba matty! time to clock the dollars!!!

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[quote=CooleyAsCanBe]Now it is time to test the debate about whether or not an MBA is worth the investment...
[/quote]
I think it is but I don't know much. I think a lot depends on where you go undergrad. If you are going to a great undergrad school in the top 10 there is less of a reason. I am going to UMD smith for undergrad next year and I am definately going to try for an MBA. It is hard and there is a lot of work but I think it'll be worth it. I mean starting salaries are crazy different for MBAs and for undergrad degrees. UMD smith undergrad average is like 44,000 vs. the MBA students who start at 81,000. Now I assume that the MBA students had nice jobs before that led to them having a good pay but I still think MBAs are worth it. Now matty can say Mattyk12, MBA at the bottom of every post just like this

Mattyk12, MBA

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]I think it is but I don't know much. I think a lot depends on where you go undergrad. If you are going to a great undergrad school in the top 10 there is less of a reason. I am going to UMD smith for undergrad next year and I am definately going to try for an MBA. It is hard and there is a lot of work but I think it'll be worth it. I mean starting salaries are crazy different for MBAs and for undergrad degrees. UMD smith undergrad average is like 44,000 vs. the MBA students who start at 81,000. Now I assume that the MBA students had nice jobs before that led to them having a good pay but I still think MBAs are worth it. Now matty can say Mattyk12, MBA at the bottom of every post just like this

Mattyk12, MBA[/QUOTE]

I got my MBA a couple of years ago. It's certainly helped me. I mean I was never interested in the conventional banking/finance route. But I mean I was able to walk into ESPN and talk about my years of working in tv. And they said well that's great but just about everyone here has worked in television at some point. But then I could say, but yeah I also have an MBA so I know all about creating marketing strategies, writing business plans, analzying cost benefit, etc. Not that you can't do that without the MBA, but it definitely carries more weight to say you learned it in your MBA program. Plus you really learn to work with others, so much of the work is group work. And I'm sure Matty would agree, the hardest part of the MBA is getting in. Once you're in it's not so bad.

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Well for those who know something about MBAs. DO I really need to study business undergrad to do business later? Will it help at all or do people get admitted to graduate business for other things. Like for medical graduate schools, faculty at my school say it really doesn't matter so much what you major in or where you go undergrad as long as you get really good scores. Could I maybe major in journalism and then still do an MBA if I want or should I atleast try and major in some kind of business major and journalism as as a second major? I was planning on doing two business majors but I would like to try out journalism--maybe.

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]Well for those who know something about MBAs. DO I really need to study business undergrad to do business later? Will it help at all or do people get admitted to graduate business for other things. Like for medical graduate schools, faculty at my school say it really doesn't matter so much what you major in or where you go undergrad as long as you get really good scores. Could I maybe major in journalism and then still do an MBA if I want or should I atleast try and major in some kind of business major and journalism as as a second major? I was planning on doing two business majors but I would like to try out journalism--maybe.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to study business. I did business admininistration for undergrad. But then I spent five years as a tv news producer before going to get my MBA. A big thing is that you have real world work experience. That's why a lot of schools won't even look at you unless you've been out of college 4 or 5 years working. But they like a good mix of professions. Get good grades, do well on your GMATs but most importantly get some actual work experience.

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will do then. I am atleast getting some work experience being a bitc... i mean intern at this company. I joke, I joke, they treat me great and I talk sports all day with them but I do have to do the tedious work.

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[quote=TAFKAS]And I'm sure Matty would agree, the hardest part of the MBA is getting in. Once you're in it's not so bad.[/quote]

In a lot of ways it was easier than undergrad...

Speaking for my program at least, it was more concentrated on writing papers, group projects, presentations, etc., and less focused on tests and quizzes like in undergrad.

Undergrad was more about memorizing material and spitting it back to the professor, while in grad school they're looking for some signs of original thought. Plus there's the added pressure of needing at least a B in every course. D doesn't equal degree here, neither does C.

I still can't believe it's over, I feel like I have a huge void in my spare time now. I can't get that feeling outta my head, I'm constantly thinking about what assignment is due next, what paper do I have to write, etc.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer]Well for those who know something about MBAs. DO I really need to study business undergrad to do business later? Will it help at all or do people get admitted to graduate business for other things. Like for medical graduate schools, faculty at my school say it really doesn't matter so much what you major in or where you go undergrad as long as you get really good scores. Could I maybe major in journalism and then still do an MBA if I want or should I atleast try and major in some kind of business major and journalism as as a second major? I was planning on doing two business majors but I would like to try out journalism--maybe.[/quote]

Just to elaborate on what TAFKAS said, you definitely don't need your undergrad to be in business to go for an MBA.

I knew quite a few people in my program who had their undergrad in everything from social work, to biology, to criminal science.

Of course having that business background helps, everything I took in my MBA was basically an extension of what I did in undergrad.

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thanks matty,
If someone was to major in something like marketing and then get an MBA in marketing would they just be learning the same thing twice?

Also yes F... homework. I am pulling a good old all nighter and have have to go to my internship and then some thing at school till 8. I am going to be tired.

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[quote=BigSKINBauer]thanks matty,
If someone was to major in something like marketing and then get an MBA in marketing would they just be learning the same thing twice?

Also yes F... homework. I am pulling a good old all nighter and have have to go to my internship and then some thing at school till 8. I am going to be tired.[/quote]

It would be similar, but you would definitely expand upon what you already learned.

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This is pretty coincidental, my teacher just told me to look at this article talking just about whether undergraduate business should be taken.

[url]http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_19/b3983414.htm?chan=bschools_undergrad+programs_undergraduate+b-school+news[/url]

[quote=BusinessWeek]If You Know You'll Get An MBA...
It could make sense to get a degree in the sciences or humanities first


Even at the age of 17, when college brochures began filling her mailbox, Maggie Hsu knew she wanted an MBA. Conventional wisdom told Hsu she should major in business. But after speaking with her family and touring campuses, she made an unconventional decision and enrolled at Harvard University -- as a biology major. A business degree would have put her on the fast track to a job in banking or finance, but her interests lay elsewhere. "There's only so much you can learn studying accounting," Hsu says.

In the eyes of administrators at many elite universities, Hsu made the right move. An undergraduate business degree makes sense for students intent on launching a business career immediately. But for a student with sights set on an MBA, a degree in the sciences or liberal arts may be more valuable. In fact, colleges such as Harvard, Dartmouth, and Columbia don't even offer an undergraduate major in business for just that reason. Yet many students think a business major is the necessary first step on the road to an MBA. Of the nearly 22,000 business majors who responded to the BusinessWeek survey, 48% said they planned to get an MBA within five years. Time for a reality check: Only 19% of students at BusinessWeek's Top 10 MBA programs have a bachelor's degree in business.

Once a technical degree like law or medicine that students got right after college, the MBA morphed into something new 20 years ago when schools began requiring applicants to have extensive work experience. With that change, the MBA began focusing on soft skills such as communication and leadership in addition to business basics, making the undergraduate degree an attractive shortcut into the business world. But it left many without the more rounded education necessary for business success. "[Companies] want to be sure that a potential hire can have conversations on subjects other than finance," says Meredith Daw, associate director for employer relations at the University of Chicago.

Less is More
Another problem with using the undergraduate business degree as a stepping stone to the MBA is that it duplicates much of what students will encounter in grad school. Many classes students take as undergraduates, such as economics, accounting, and statistics, are also required for the master's. Some MBA programs allow students who have already taken these to substitute with electives. But few students do, believing they'll miss out on all-important networking. Explains Paul Danos, dean of Dartmouth College's Tuck School of Business: "MBA programs aren't designed for people who have a lot of formal business training."

Many "eventual MBAs" major in business in part because they believe it will guarantee them a job at graduation. But a few business courses would work just as well. Plenty of business majors at top schools, from 50% to 90%, have job offers by graduation. But consider the alternative. At Northwestern University, one school official estimates that 80% of students enrolled in one business-focused minor go straight into business positions. Says Mark Witte, director of Northwestern's undergraduate economics program: "Students overweigh what they think a major will do for them."

So if you're looking for a job in accounting or marketing, an undergraduate business degree will get you where you want to be. But if you aspire to get an MBA, consider a path that includes some humanities, a smattering of economics, and a little patience. "If a child of mine wanted to be a business leader someday," Danos says, "there's absolutely no doubt this is the advice I would give." It may seem circuitous, but give it time and you'll come out ahead.


By Geoff Gloeckler[/quote]

regardless I know I am going to take business undergrad because I am not really interested in anything else. Maybe sports management which UMD offers as a part of the marketing major. Maybe I'll duel in journalism. Maybe I'll even just decide I want to do something completely different in a few years.

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I can definitely see the value of having your undergrad in something other than business, and then adding the MBA as the cherry on top. It would definitely make you well-rounded and give you a diverse educational background.