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If you were asked to pick the one concern you have about the skins team what would pick and why. It can be a player, secondary, Oline etc...

I'm going to say that Brunell is my biggest concern. He had a great year for use but seemed to fade toward the end of the season. I don't know if it was due to injury, his arm just got tired, or the teams we faced were just better. We have all the weapons on O for him this year but will he be able to get the ball to them and can he keep up his level of play in the post season. I'm not as concerned with the beging of the year as I am with the last 1/4 and post season.

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Maybe we pull a Schroeder if Cambell is decent enough..... sike i dont think we would do that.

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O-line. We don't have much depth, the whole key to the offense will be time to find a speedy receiver or holes for Portis to dart through. We need quality backups, if and when we lose someone on the line.

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Safety depth. Last year, we had a full rotation of safeties, which allowed players like Taylor and Clark to be rested enough to make plays when it counted.

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I think that Gibbs will make the right decision on Brunell, like he did last year. Im not to sure how far along Cambell is but sometimes you just have to throw a young qb in the water and see if he can swim with the big fish. It worked out for Pittsburg. Hes definately gonna have some growing pains. Look how long we waited for Pat Pansy to get over his growing pains. ............My biggest concern is our o-line, we gotta get some depth at every position on the whole line. Because last year someone got hurt and we were screwed. We had a center playin guard and our back-up tackle was 90 (love ya Ray). You should have quality back-ups at every position, but the game is won and lost in the trenches.

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I think our weakest link on the team is the punting and kicking. Our punter absolutely stinks and Hall is a injury waiting to happen. I have never seen a team have as many problems with kickers as we do. I would say our line, but I think with the young guys we had last couple of years are probably good enough to fill in, plus we signed a vet backup that can play guard or center. Brunell, will actually be a little more fresh towards the end of this year as opposed to last year. He has more options at receiver, a better game plan. He will take less hits, and have to scramble less. Plus, Portis will be able to find bigger holes. Brunell will make the PROBOWL this year. Career numbers. Campbell wont play unless Brunell goes down. Which I think Campbell will do fine, but not playing if Brunell is 100%.

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[QUOTE=dirthogs311]Maybe we pull a Schroeder if Cambell is decent enough..... sike i dont think we would do that.[/QUOTE]
I think that to Gibbs, Cambell is our Schroeder. I would call Schroeder the most underated player of the 1st Gibbs era. He never started a super bowl, but he started for a lot of wins that got us there.

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offensive health/depth (they're intertwined)... if we lose samuels, thomas, or jansen its game over. Losing brunell (or having him play hurt) would probably be really bad too, but there is an off chance that the talent is good enough (WR/RB/OL etc) that campbell or collins could make due.

defensively, besides the starter's hole at ROLB, the depth is pretty good.

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New system.
It takes a while for a team to gel.

also, Special teams. we need a punter and a reliable and healthy kicker.

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Definitely punting is a major concern. I'm not sold on Frost as our guy.

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Is there not someone in the world who has a huge leg, but doesn't necessarily kick perfect spirals?

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From this thread's title I thought Dan Snyder's plane had crashed...

I'd say my biggest concern is also O-line depth. It was so painful watching the line in our last playoffs game. I always liked Randy Thomas, but it is amazing how much worse our line was without him.

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[quote=#56fanatic]I think our weakest link on the team is the punting and kicking. [/quote]

I agree.

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Punting, I guess. I am hopeful that we won't have to punt very often this year.
O-line - With Randy out it looked pretty average at best. I wonder if Brunell's performance decline and Randy's injury were related? With a healthy Randy and Rabach.
QB - I think Collins will be the backup barring a super stellar preseason by Campbell.
Defense - I don't see a concern unless ST has to don a new monocolored uniform. They should have him make a cameo in the Prison Break series!
Running - Portis and Betts make me smile.
Receiving - they make it fun to run.

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I agree with the guys who are concern with the O line and its depth. What I don't like about the line condition is that we have several guys coming off of surgeries....
Randy Thomas: broken fibula- he should be ready soon, but still not 100%
Casey Rabach: recovering from shoulder surgery and a deep gashed from ATV accident. He may not be ready by training camp. This could be spell out bad for us. I know we drafted two interior O-line men.
Jansen still has sore thumb.
Samuel had something done to his knee.

That's 4 out of 5 O line men coming off of last years injuries.... We need depth on O line

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No question ... it's the O-line. That Guy is exactly right, so I'll repeat what he said:

We saw what happened when Randy Thomas was lost for the season thanks to Ladell Betts. If Samuels, Jansen, or Thomas go down, our season is most likely over.

Knowing this, will there be an offensive lineman worth taking at #53?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Definitely punting is a major concern. I'm not sold on Frost as our guy.[/QUOTE]

TAFKAS - if punting is our biggest problem, then that is the best news I've heard all day! That's like saying the biggest flaw of the Detroit Pistons is that their towel boy is on his ass!

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[quote=Be Tuat]I agree with the guys who are concern with the O line and its depth. What I don't like about the line condition is that we have several guys coming off of surgeries....
Randy Thomas: broken fibula- he should be ready soon, but still not 100%
Casey Rabach: recovering from shoulder surgery and a deep gashed from ATV accident. He may not be ready by training camp. This could be spell out bad for us. I know we drafted two interior O-line men.
Jansen still has sore thumb.
Samuel had something done to his knee.

That's 4 out of 5 O line men coming off of last years injuries.... We need depth on O line[/quote]Did you mean to say that Jansen still has two sore thumbs. Remember he broke both last year and was wearing two thumb cast at the same time. What a fluke that was.

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i normally would hop on the o line bandwagon but...if brunell would go down,then what?collins is average at best and campbell is untested so life as a redskin fan would become very interesting.not that redskin fans want anything to do with a qback conterversey :)

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[QUOTE=dmek25]i normally would hop on the o line bandwagon but...if brunell would go down,then what?collins is average at best and campbell is untested so life as a redskin fan would become very interesting.not that redskin fans want anything to do with a qback conterversey :)[/QUOTE]

I've said it over and over, the best thing Redskin fans could hope for is that Jason Campbell wins the job hands down in preseason, thoroughly beating Mark Brunell and gives the coaches absolutely no doubt that he's the best man for the job. If this happens, we're in a nearly perfect situation because I think Brunell would be an ideal backup.

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One concern at a time:

The Skins One Concern: Being on the Clock at #53!

Next up: #153

and so on, and so on.

Until 8 May.

Then it's Court TV! Or in this case, i-net reports by the dozens from Miami-Dade.

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[quote=backrow]One concern at a time:

The Skins One Concern: Being on the Clock at #53!

Next up: #153

and so on, and so on.

Until 8 May.

Then it's Court TV! Or in this case, i-net reports by the dozens from Miami-Dade.[/quote]what, no more postponments expected?

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[quote=Beemnseven]No question ... it's the O-line. That Guy is exactly right, so I'll repeat what he said:

We saw what happened when Randy Thomas was lost for the season thanks to Ladell Betts. If Samuels, Jansen, or Thomas go down, our season is most likely over.

Knowing this, will there be an offensive lineman worth taking at #53?[/quote]

davin joseph (pretty polished right now) or charles spencer (huge upside, massive guy, but also very athletic) should be available, and both can be the pulling type of guard that dockery isn't. No tackles worth thinking about will be left at that point, and out of the top 4 OGs, only 2 are athletic pulling types, and after those 4 a drop off in talent begins.

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beem,while i agree with your logic,there is no way coach gibbs starts campbell if he thinks the skins are as close as all of us do.its that simple

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I'm worried about the Punting/Kicking game. If you can't pin your opponent or score field goals you've already lost 1/3 of the battle.

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[quote=saden1]I'm worried about the Punting/Kicking game. If you can't pin your opponent or score field goals you've already lost 1/3 of the battle.[/quote]

That is what I am talking about. Our punting game is worse than the numbers say. If Frost is punting from around mid field he's OK. if he punts from inside our 35, he is one of the worst I have seen (except Joey T and his 1 yarder, but that doesn't count, right?) Hey, Dallas lost 3 or 4 games last year because of missed kicks. They just got the most accurate kicker in NFL history, so that is a game or three automatically. Kicking games, as we all know, lose games. remember 2000.

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[quote=That Guy]offensive health/depth (they're intertwined)... if we lose samuels, thomas, or jansen its game over. Losing brunell (or having him play hurt) would probably be really bad too, but there is an off chance that the talent is good enough (WR/RB/OL etc) that campbell or collins could make due.

defensively, besides the starter's hole at ROLB, the depth is pretty good.[/quote]

Gahh! Get out of my brain!!!

Kidding, but I was seriously about to write that pretty much word for word. *Motion seconded*

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[QUOTE=That Guy]offensive health/depth (they're intertwined)... if we lose samuels, thomas, or jansen its game over. Losing brunell (or having him play hurt) would probably be really bad too, but there is an off chance that the talent is good enough (WR/RB/OL etc) that campbell or collins could make due.

defensively, besides the starter's hole at ROLB, the depth is pretty good.[/QUOTE]

This is a area that also in a big concern! We have little depth here! Over a season in the NFL you need to have a few guys step in durning a game or over a fews for a starter. Look what happen when we lost Jansen for a season or Thomas just for a few games! Teams run on thier O line!!! Then you throw in a older QB you need to keep him up right and not taking to many hits! My hope is we can find some help in the lower part of the draft! That maybe a false hope!

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Wow everyone agrees ! Funny how everyone wants a LB or CB at 53 . Good news is , we did sign two backup lineman who have experience and Bugel has a great track record of developing young late round picks , Jacoby ; f/a ; Bostic ; f/a ; McKenzie ; 7th rd ; Simmons ; 6th and Stinky < Schereth ; 10th rd . Maybe we should trade our 07 2nd rd pick for a 3rd rd pick this year and grab a big nasty OL man , that way we can use 53 to grab a LB or a Pass rushing DL ?

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[QUOTE=dmek25]beem,while i agree with your logic,there is no way coach gibbs starts campbell if he thinks the skins are as close as all of us do.its that simple[/QUOTE]

He'll start Campbell if Campbell hands down plays better than Brunell. That will have to involve Brunell making huge mistakes, just playing horribly, you know, in his 2004 form. All of this might be unlikely, but that's what will have to happen.

Remember, I'm hoping for Campbell to win the job ... it's not necessarily what I think WILL happen.

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Kicking game

OL depth

Secondary depth

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[quote=Beemnseven]He'll start Campbell if Campbell hands down plays better than Brunell. That will have to involve Brunell making huge mistakes, just playing horribly, you know, in his 2004 form. All of this might be unlikely, but that's what will have to happen.

Remember, I'm hoping for Campbell to win the job ... it's not necessarily what I think WILL happen.[/quote]Yea but the 2004 season was pretty much over when he pulled Brunell.

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DT depth - if CG or Big Joe go down we lose alot in the run stopping department - and that is where it all starts.

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[quote=firstdown]If you were asked to pick the one concern you have about the skins team what would pick and why. It can be a player, secondary, Oline etc...

I'm going to say that Brunell is my biggest concern. He had a great year for use but seemed to fade toward the end of the season. I don't know if it was due to injury, his arm just got tired, or the teams we faced were just better. We have all the weapons on O for him this year but will he be able to get the ball to them and can he keep up his level of play in the post season. I'm not as concerned with the beging of the year as I am with the last 1/4 and post season.[/quote]

I don't worry about Brunell because he has been one of the better performers at the QB position, ever. He wins games, so he will be fine.

My vote is for kicker and punter, but the offensive line depth gets honorable mention.

Also, I hope for consistency that Saunders doesn't change too many things too quickly. If he does, this could be a very 2004 like situation with the new offense.

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So Santa needs to send us a mean nasty HOG < OL > , A bad ass DL , and a LB , Db , and a punter or kicker . If only Ditka was a GM / coach again maybe we could get him to send us his entire draft ,,,,, DAMN ! Saunders new offence has Sellars at Fb , hope he KO's Lavar the first time we run the rock on the NYG men !

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probably receiver depth....



sike...

If every player stays healthy I don't really see anyone, except for linebacker (this is still pre-draft), however our problem pertains to "risk" I believe.

If we lose any OL or DL, and we will, things may become quite hairy. So am I panicked? No. Why? Because with the greatest coaching staff ever assembled we don't really need All-pro OL + DL backing up our guys. This team is unique.

I am aware that I am biased. So really none of this means anything to anyone. sweet.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]Yea but the 2004 season was pretty much over when he pulled Brunell.[/QUOTE]

I don't get your point. My point was that if Brunell plays like he did in 2004 this preseason, and Campbell plays better, Campbell should win the job.

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[quote=Beemnseven]I don't get your point. My point was that if Brunell plays like he did in 2004 this preseason, and Campbell plays better, Campbell should win the job.[/quote]I did not know you were talking about preseason. For Gibbs to start Campbell he will have to play at a very high level and Brunell will have to play even worse than he did in 04. We know how hard pressed Gibbs is to switch QB's unless your name is Ramsey. LOL

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I'm worried about everything. The Redskins walk a thin line, any adversity can be detrimental. Lets list a few examples:
1) The defense needs Sean Taylor. If he is convicted, the secondary would be in shambles.
2) The offensive line needs to be healthy. The offense will be in trouble if something like Jansen having two broken thumbs and Thomas breaking his leg.
3) Brunnel has to stay healthy and efficient. Brunnel took a couple of big hits down the stretch and it affected his production. Can't have that this year.
4) The special teams need much improvement. Randle El will help the return game but kickoffs, punts and field goals were a problem last year. Coverage on kickoffs and punts is also a concern.

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Really? I thought we were like top 3 in coverage on special teams last year.